Schostakovich's 10th - Recommendations?
Thomas Kresken
Hi,
a week ago, I heard Schost's 10th for the first time in
a concert and am now looking for some opinions about
recordings. Although I have a couple of his works on CD,
I still can't say that I prefer one conductor/orchestra
over another. I guess I haven't found "my" interpret yet.
Thanks in advance,
Thomas
Frederick Kalil
Thomas Kresken (kre...@idt.unit.no) wrote:
: Hi,
: Thanks in advance,
: Thomas
I can only recommend my personal favorites:
Sanderling (Berlin Classics)
Mitropoulos (CBS/Sony)
Karajan (DG galleria - not the digital remake)
These performances all bear the (best) characteristics of the conductors
leading them.
Haven't yet heard the Skrowaczewski (IMP), but judging from the quality of
his Shostakovich 5th, I would expect that it might be good.
FK
Diane Wilson
In article <3270AE...@idt.unit.no>, Thomas Kresken <kre...@idt.unit.no> writes:
|> Hi,
|>
|> a week ago, I heard Schost's 10th for the first time in
|> a concert and am now looking for some opinions about
|> recordings. Although I have a couple of his works on CD,
|> I still can't say that I prefer one conductor/orchestra
|> over another. I guess I haven't found "my" interpret yet.
Except for Mravinsky, who premiered many of Shostakovich's symphonies
(including the 10th), I don't know of one conductor who would be
considered definitive. Haitink's recordings generally get good
reviews. Karajan's 10th is very good. I've heard good things
about Mitropoulos' 10th, but not so good about Rattle's 10th (though
his 4th is highly regarded).
If you are strongly interested in the 10th, I would recommend getting
two recordings. One Mravinsky just to have Mravinsky, with the caveat
that both of his 10th recordings are live, and that recording quality
doesn't match the quality of the performance. And one other; I'm quite
satisfied with Karajan, but opinions will vary.
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begley@mojo
Thomas Kresken (kre...@idt.unit.no) wrote:
: Hi,
: a week ago, I heard Schost's 10th for the first time in
: a concert and am now looking for some opinions about
: recordings. Although I have a couple of his works on CD,
: I still can't say that I prefer one conductor/orchestra
: over another. I guess I haven't found "my" interpret yet.
Jarvi/SNO/Chandos is the best tenth I have heard. Do not get
Slatkin on RCA. Slatkins 8th is pretty good, but his tenth is
flat and muddy.
Others will recommend Mrvinsky, and Kondrashin. I have not
heard either of these recordings. But I don't believe either
is digital.
Bob.
redrick
Mitropoulos/NYPhil (1954) rerelease on Sony. Incredible
excitement, taut, masterful, much like Mravinsky only better
recording. (I don't know if there's a studio Mra?- all the ones
I've heard are live and plagued by technical problems of one sort
or other.
For a more modern recording Rahbari on Naxos is surprisingly
good. Slovak ok. De Priest is quite good. Jansons a big
disappointment- herky-jerky tempo unsteadiness in 1st mvt that
seems to have no motivation at all.
Regards, -Rick
--
red...@az.com
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Rob Hudson
> a week ago, I heard Schost's 10th for the first time in
> a concert and am now looking for some opinions about
> recordings. Although I have a couple of his works on CD,
> I still can't say that I prefer one conductor/orchestra
> over another. I guess I haven't found "my" interpret yet.
Jarvi and the SNO, hands down. Probably their best work, except for maybe
the 4th. I don't think this recording can be touched.
-- rob
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Acuity2020
No one has mentioned the Simon Rattle/Philharmonia recording yet. Its the
only one I own, and I think it's pretty good. I think Temirkanov would
also do a great job of the 10th. (I love his performance of the 8th).
The 10th is possibly my favorite Shost. symphony after No. 14, although
no. 8 comes pretty close in the running.
-Ron
Gddecker
You should investigate the following recordings of Schostakowitsch's Tenth
Symphony:
New York Philharmonic/Dmitri Mitropoulos on Sony (coupled with the NYPO
and Efrem Kurtz doing the Schostakowitsch Sixth). Excellent mono sound.
Berliner Philharmoniker/Herbert von Karajan in both of their recordings,
one on mid-price Deutsche Grammophon Galleria (available in Europe) and,
especially, the digital one in its Deutsche Grammophon "Karajan Gold"
incarnation. This is my personal favorite of the work although it is
recorded from a somewhat rough sound perspective in early digital but the
"Karajan Gold" remastering helps.
Schostakowitsch himself was moved very much by von Karajan's
interpretation when the latter and the BPO visited Moscow in the late
sixties.
Geoffrey Decker
minhquan@labyrinth.net.au Q
> In article <3270AE...@idt.unit.no>, Thomas Kresken
> <kre...@idt.unit.no> wrote:
>
> > a week ago, I heard Schost's 10th for the first time in
> > a concert and am now looking for some opinions about
> > recordings. Although I have a couple of his works on CD,
> > I still can't say that I prefer one conductor/orchestra
> > over another. I guess I haven't found "my" interpret yet.
Mravinsky and the Leningrad PO, is top of my list, without a doubt. I
think that a live version is currently available through Point, in a
series called 'Leningrad Masters' (at super-budget price). I also quite
like Jarvi on Chandos, and Karajan is good too, depending on your taste.
- Q
Pam Goodall
and..
I'd plump for Mravinsky in the 10th (any of the many versions now
available), or Karajan as a close second runner. (Mravinsky can be
purchased most cheaply on the new Leningrad Masters series via Point
classics).
Mike Willis
Charles Dalmas
Best Shost 10? Karajan, bar none...Passion, power, sublime shading and coloring,
and as always, the iron hand on the movement of the piece, the absolute control.
It is tempered, however, with understanding, and the fact that the Berlin Philharmonic
is the best orchestra in the world doesn't hurt much, either.
You will never go wrong with Karajan's 10th.
(Anyone figured out that I'm a Karajan fanatic yet?) *GRIN*
--
Charles L. L. Dalmas
Remember, There can be only one!
dav...@winternet.com
http://www.winternet.com/~davion
Dwight Gruber
In <54qhtd$p...@brtph500.bnr.ca>,
thwi...@bnr.ca (Diane Wilson) writes:
>
> In article <3270AE...@idt.unit.no>, Thomas Kresken <kre...@idt.unit.no> writes:
> |> Hi,
> |>
> |> a week ago, I heard Schost's 10th for the first time in
> |> a concert and am now looking for some opinions about
> |> recordings. Although I have a couple of his works on CD,
> |> I still can't say that I prefer one conductor/orchestra
> |> over another. I guess I haven't found "my" interpret yet.
>
> Except for Mravinsky, who premiered many of Shostakovich's symphonies
> (including the 10th), I don't know of one conductor who would be
> considered definitive. Haitink's recordings generally get good
> reviews. Karajan's 10th is very good. I've heard good things
> about Mitropoulos' 10th, but not so good about Rattle's 10th (though
> his 4th is highly regarded).
>
> If you are strongly interested in the 10th, I would recommend getting
> two recordings. One Mravinsky just to have Mravinsky, with the caveat
> that both of his 10th recordings are live, and that recording quality
With all the wonderful Shostakovich performances coming from Melodiya
lately, recording quality is easy to forgive. Don't forget, the Mravinsky
version on Saga is the recording of the premier concert!
--DwightG
> doesn't match the quality of the performance. And one other; I'm quite
> satisfied with Karajan, but opinions will vary.
EACowan
FWIW, Efrem Kurtz's recording, with the Philharmonia Orch., of the
Shostakovich 10th has just been reissued on Testament 1078.
Someone mentioned his old NYPO recording of the *9th* (not the sixth, as
stated in the message!). This was on LP but, in USA, at least, is not yet
on CD, though I understand that Sony has reissued it in Europe. --E.A.C.
redrick
Dwi...@nesbbx.rain.com (Dwight Gruber) wrote:
>With all the wonderful Shostakovich performances coming from Melodiya
>lately, recording quality is easy to forgive. Don't forget, the Mravinsky
>version on Saga is the recording of the premier concert!
>
Not quite. Soviet premiere. World premiere was
Mitropolos/NYPhil a few months earlier.
John-Michael Albert
I think the 8th and the 10th are the two Shostakovich symphonies that do
*exactly* what they set out to do. I think we are dealing with a very
great mind here; and so even his most miserable failures are suffused
with genius. But 8 and 10 succeed on all counts, IMHO.
Incidentally, I've been so drunk on the von Karajan recording of the
10th that I've never acquired another. My only recording of the 8th is
the earlier Previn, which is extremely moving; but the fast movement is
much too fast (they were trying to shoe-horn it all onto one disc).
Mike