Chainsmoking Classical Musicians?
Jarl Sigurd
there any other well known classical musicians or
composers who were known to be heavy smokers?
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David Gomberg
jarls...@geocities.com says...
> Aside from the foolhardy Leonard Bernstein, were
> there any other well known classical musicians or
> composers who were known to be heavy smokers?
>
> Jarl Sigurd
First two that come to mind are Oscar Levant and Nathan Milstein.
I'm sure there were lots more.
Dave Gomberg
Sergejus Zabinskis
A have seen some archive film, showing Shostakovich, working on his 7th
(Leningrad) symphony. He was smoking intensively.
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Jarl Sigurd wrote in message <6fnC4.15990$Xk2....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...
>Aside from the foolhardy Leonard Bernstein, were
>there any other well known classical musicians or
>composers who were known to be heavy smokers?
>
>Jarl Sigurd
>
Charles Eggen
<jarls...@geocities.com> wrote:
>Aside from the foolhardy Leonard Bernstein, were
>there any other well known classical musicians or
>composers who were known to be heavy smokers?
>
I would guess that most born in the first half of the 20th Century
were at least regular, if not heavy smokers. That goes for singers as
well.
Chuck
William H. Pittman
jarls...@geocities.com wrote on 3/23/00 6:40 AM:
> Aside from the foolhardy Leonard Bernstein, were
> there any other well known classical musicians or
> composers who were known to be heavy smokers?
Klaus Tennstedt (who died of smoking-related illnesses) and Janos Starker.
Don Drewecki
It appears, now, that Maurizio Pollini smokes, from the photos I've seen recently.
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vertigo
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:40:10 -0800, "Jarl Sigurd"
> <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
> >Aside from the foolhardy Leonard Bernstein, were
> >there any other well known classical musicians or
> >composers who were known to be heavy smokers?
> >
> I would guess that most born in the first half of the 20th Century
> were at least regular, if not heavy smokers. That goes for singers as
> well.
>
> Chuck
Rach always looked like he had a cig in his hand.
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john e dove
poisoningm perhaps it was during his years in Paris. jed.
Thijs Bonger
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Sergejus Zabinskis
john e dove
contributed, if I am not mistaken. jed.
keith
latter days, this despite having several operations to remove a tumour from his
throat.
Barbirolli was a puffer of cigarette and pipe, Beecham of cigars, Vaughan
Williams pipe or cigarette, Finzi of pipe. I think smoking was the rule rather
than the exception then.
Keith Douglas
David
> Also Ravel died in an auto accident, but his nicotine addiction
> contributed, if I am not mistaken. jed.
He died after a brain operation. The auto accident happened a couple of
years before that, and left him suffering from some kind of mental
paralysis.
David
>
William H. Pittman
ver...@ms22.hinet.net wrote on 3/23/00 11:40 AM:
> Rach always looked like he had a cig in his hand.
So did Gershwin.
William H. Pittman
kdth...@aol.comnojunk wrote on 3/24/00 11:20 AM:
> Sibelius was a chainsmoker of cigars, which were sent to him by admirers in
> his
> latter days, this despite having several operations to remove a tumour from
> his
> throat.
Going back a little farther, Brahms is supposed to have been an incurable
cigarette/cigar smoker.
vertigo
Are you insinuating it was the same cigarette?
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vertigo
What do you mean by mental paralysis? You mean paresis? I'm curious.
Paul Bodine
cigarette.
William H. Pittman <willi...@global2000.net> wrote in message
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David
(vertigo) wrote:
> David wrote:
>
> > In article <8bforj$dle$1...@ssauraab-i-1.production.compuserve.com>,
> > 7116...@CompuServe.COM (john e dove) wrote:
> >
> > > Also Ravel died in an auto accident, but his nicotine addiction
> > > contributed, if I am not mistaken. jed.
> >
> > He died after a brain operation. The auto accident happened a couple
> > of
> > years before that, and left him suffering from some kind of mental
> > paralysis.
> >
> > David
> > >
>
> What do you mean by mental paralysis?
That came from "Everyman's Dictionary of Music". There's another view in
Burnett James' book on Ravel: Ravel's co-ordination was impaired, but not
his mental faculties. The brain operation found nothing wrong (although
Ravel lapsed into a coma after it).
David
vertigo
> > What do you mean by mental paralysis?
>
> That came from "Everyman's Dictionary of Music".
I've never seen that phrase before & it doesn't seem to make sense. But,
after all, your reference is Everyman's Dictionary of Music, NOT Everyman's
Dictionary of Medicine!
> There's another view in
> Burnett James' book on Ravel: Ravel's co-ordination was impaired, but not
> his mental faculties. The brain operation found nothing wrong (although
> Ravel lapsed into a coma after it).
>
> David
So you mean the operation was a success but the patient died! Very tragic.
That brain surgeon deprived us of God knows how much music.
David
(vertigo) wrote:
> David wrote:
>
> > > What do you mean by mental paralysis?
> >
> > That came from "Everyman's Dictionary of Music".
>
> I've never seen that phrase before & it doesn't seem to make sense.
> But,
> after all, your reference is Everyman's Dictionary of Music, NOT
> Everyman's Dictionary of Medicine!
Everyman's Dictionary of Music (1975 edition) can be a bit odd: JS Bach
gets 52 lines; Michael Balfe (composer of the light opera The Bohemian
Girl) gets 54!
> > There's another view in
> > Burnett James' book on Ravel: Ravel's co-ordination was impaired, but
> > not
> > his mental faculties. The brain operation found nothing wrong
> > (although
> > Ravel lapsed into a coma after it).
> >
> > David
>
> So you mean the operation was a success but the patient died!
Exactly.
> Very tragic.
> That brain surgeon deprived us of God knows how much music.
It was the car crash that did the damage on that score: Ravel's "impaired
co-ordination" meant that he found it virtually impossible to carry out
the physical task of writing.
David
vertigo
>
> It was the car crash that did the damage on that score: Ravel's "impaired
> co-ordination" meant that he found it virtually impossible to carry out
> the physical task of writing.
>
> David
Maybe we should start a thread of disabilities among composers! When did
Ravel get into the car crash? Puccini also got into a serious car crash &
photos show him on crutches (or maybe an excellent prose paragraph "showed"
him on crutches!). Was it Roussel who died in a cycling accident? Somebody
mentioned the problems Ives was having with diabetes.
the_bells
vertigo wrote
>Was it Roussel who died in a cycling accident?
>
Ernest Chausson
David
(vertigo) wrote:
> David wrote:
>
> >
> > It was the car crash that did the damage on that score: Ravel's
> > "impaired
> > co-ordination" meant that he found it virtually impossible to carry
> > out
> > the physical task of writing.
> >
> > David
>
> Maybe we should start a thread of disabilities among composers! When
> did Ravel get into the car crash?
Right at the beginning.
> Shortly befoire Puccini also got into a serious car
> crash &
> photos show him on crutches (or maybe an excellent prose paragraph
> "showed"
> him on crutches!). Was it Roussel who died in a cycling accident?
It was Chausson.
David
David Cleary
smokers, while Rossini, Liszt, and Schumann were heavy cigar
smokers.
Dave
the_bells
Conductor (and father of 'Colonel Klink') Otto Klemperer was a
HUGE cigarette smoker, to the extent that he even fell asleep
with a lit cigarette and nearly died from his injuries in the
subsequent fire.
vertigo
> vertigo wrote
> >Was it Roussel who died in a cycling accident?
> >
>
> Ernest Chausson
Thanks.
Peter T. Daniels
When I saw *The Secret of Suzanne*, that was her secret; but it may have
been updated from some other vice, à la JSB's Coffee Cantata?
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William H. Pittman
bellsbe...@nospam.net wrote on 3/27/00 9:05 PM:
Apparently Tennstedt found it very hard to get to intermission in a concert
without having a cigarette. He was seen running off the stage a few times so
he could light up in a hurry!
lberry
<ser...@takas.lt> wrote:
>Robert Casadesus smoked pipe.
>
I have a CD of Beethoven violin sonatas with Francescatti &
Casadesus. On the cover is a picture of them playing their
respective instruments. There sits Casadesus, tinkling the
ivories, with a cigarette dangling from his lips. Hilarious!
lberry
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HenryFogel
steady smoker. I don't know if he is a chain-smoker, but he smokes cigarettes
with regularity.
Henry Fogel
Peter T. Daniels
Gosh, if he didn't smoke, he might have had a *long* singing career, and recorded
every Lied ever written!
I'm pretty sure he wasn't smoking in the Green Room after a Mahler recital in the
Auditorium Theater in the mid-70s or so (when the Gallery cost $2) and he signed
my *War Requiem* album.
vertigo
> HenryFogel <henry...@aol.com> wrote in
> <20000408134354...@ng-fs1.aol.com>:
> > What is likely to astonish most people is that Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is a
> > steady smoker. I don't know if he is a chain-smoker, but he smokes cigarettes
> > with regularity.
> > Henry Fogel
>
> Being the son of two artists, I can assure you that more often than not,
> there is a proportionate relationship to the brilliance of the artist's
> mind and the degree in chemical vices on which they rely to keep their
> sanity.
Sure, Lenny B. was so hyperactive, he would have self-destructed without chain
smoking. BTW, did anyone mention Caruso and his ubiquitous cigarette holder
(unfortunately, a cigarette was also ubiquituously attached to the holder!).
A. Brain
unfiltered Pall Malls. Sony Heritage CD set of Leon Fleisher's Brahms
concertos has original LP covers depicted showing the young (20ish) pianist
holding a cigarette (dating from the late '50s, same period that had news
shows with people smoking constantly). There are even some CD and LP
pictures of the great Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau holding a cigarette or
smoking one. And of course the great Leonard Bernstein was a chain smoker
and heavy drinker.
Pollini, Fischer-Dieskau, and Bernstein are among the greatest classical
artists of the past 100 years. And no doubt there are others.
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> Let's not forget Cole Porter.
>
>
Joe Salerno
day, and William Kapell. I do not know if either as a chain smoker though.
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"A. Brain" <abr...@nospam.att.net> wrote in message
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Polar
wrote:
>I believe Rachmaninoff was a heavy smoker, perhaps not so unusual in his
>day, and William Kapell. I do not know if either as a chain smoker though.
I realize it's considered uncool to designate Kurt Weill as a
classical musician (I think some of his stuff ranks with or exceeds
most "modern" composers), but yes, he was a heavy smoker.
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Dwightg
Likewise Frank Zappa, both in the "uncool/classical" aspect and as an
extremely heavy smoker.
--DwightG
William Satterthwaite
A. Brain <abr...@nospam.att.net> wrote:
>New Yorker article on Maurizio Pollini last week described his chain smoking
>unfiltered Pall Malls. Sony Heritage CD set of Leon Fleisher's Brahms
>concertos has original LP covers depicted showing the young (20ish) pianist
>holding a cigarette (dating from the late '50s, same period that had news
>shows with people smoking constantly). There are even some CD and LP
>pictures of the great Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau holding a cigarette or
>smoking one. And of course the great Leonard Bernstein was a chain smoker
>and heavy drinker.
>
>Pollini, Fischer-Dieskau, and Bernstein are among the greatest classical
>artists of the past 100 years. And no doubt there are others.
Cellist Janos Starker must go through several packs a day.
Bill
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<ulUH4.5152$8v5.3...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "A.
Brain" <abr...@nospam.att.net> wrote:
>New Yorker article on Maurizio Pollini last week described his
>chain smoking unfiltered Pall Malls.
A few years ago someone posted here that he also drinks like a
fish. Somehow, that makes him more endearing to me.
gdiv
him, except that his father was a famous architect, he lives in a
16th century villa, he's a Marxist, and he's played for
prisoners. I will love him forever, though, because of his Trois
Mouvements de Petrouchka, his late Beethoven, his Chopin op.10
no. 1, etc... I don't care how much he drinks or smokes or even
that all of his recent recordings all sound the same. In so many
ways he is sublime and untouchable.
A. Brain
gdiv <c0nstruct...@excite.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article
> <ulUH4.5152$8v5.3...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "A.
> Brain" <abr...@nospam.att.net> wrote:
> >New Yorker article on Maurizio Pollini last week described his
> >chain smoking unfiltered Pall Malls.
>
> A few years ago someone posted here that he also drinks like a
> fish. Somehow, that makes him more endearing to me.
Me too. And if they weren't so unhealthy, I'd probably go back to Pall
Malls myself. I enjoy single malt scotch (Macallan) and imported beers of
various kinds. No cigarettes, but if I get hit by a bus next week, I'm
going to be thinking, why did I give up that pleasurable habit?
I like Pollini; I have heard him at Carnegie Hall twice in the last few
years.
Adrian Hunter
>
> HenryFogel wrote:
> >
> > What is likely to astonish most people is that Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is a
> > steady smoker. I don't know if he is a chain-smoker, but he smokes cigarettes
> > with regularity.
> > Henry Fogel
>
> every Lied ever written!
>
> I'm pretty sure he wasn't smoking in the Green Room after a Mahler recital in the
> Auditorium Theater in the mid-70s or so (when the Gallery cost $2) and he signed
> my *War Requiem* album.
> --
> Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
FWIW (if I can wade into this thread so inordinately late), DFD
said in a radio interview the other day that he stopped smoking
in about 1980 (that's nearer the end of his career though!) When
asked about his smoking, he said (in jest of course) he was lucky
enough to have a doctor who told him he wasn't smoking too much.
Adrian
Baldric
of Cecila Bartolli with a cigarette in her hand. I can't see how
someone who uses her voice for a living can afford to smoke.
Famous smoking pianists include Solomon, Benno Moisewitch, Martha
Argerich and, I believe. Emil Gilels.
Baldric