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Stephen Hanson

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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Are there piano transcriptions of any of Mahler's symphonies?

-stephen


Rich Schiebel

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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ste...@olympus.net (Stephen Hanson) wrote:
>Are there piano transcriptions of any of Mahler's symphonies?

Yes. I have a recording (on 1 CD) of a 4-hand reduction of the 6th by
Alexander Zemlinsky, performed by Zenker & Trenker, on the unusual (to
me) label MD+G (Dabringhaus & Grimm). How strange to hear this work
on 2 pianos!

I have heard of other reductions, but do not recall which symphonies.

Hope this helps.

Rich


Mike Quigley

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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ste...@olympus.net (Stephen Hanson) wrote:

>Are there piano transcriptions of any of Mahler's symphonies?

The following were published by Universal Edition:

Symphony #1 -- reduction for 4 hands (Bruno Walter)
Symphony #2 -- reduction for 4 hands (Bruno Walter); also arranged for 2
pianos, 4 hands (H. Behn) and 2 pianos 8 hands (Bocklet)!
Symphony #3 -- reduction for 4 hands (Wöss); "Glockenchor" arranged for
piano (Wöss); Minuet arranged for piano (Friedman)
Symphony #4 -- reduction for 4 hands (Wöss)
Symphony #5 -- reduction for 4 hands (not published by UE, but I have it
published by Kalmus)
Symphony #6 -- reduction for 4 hands (Zemlinsky)
Symphony #7 -- reduction for 4 hands (Casella)
Symphony #8 -- reduction for 4 hands (with vocals -- Wöss); reduction for 4
hands
Symphony #9 -- reduction for 4 hands
Das Klagende Lied -- reduction with text (Wöss)
Das Lied von der Erde -- reduction with text (Wöss)
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Stephan Melosch

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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Rich Schiebel (schi...@airmail.net) wrote:

: ste...@olympus.net (Stephen Hanson) wrote:
: >Are there piano transcriptions of any of Mahler's symphonies?

: Yes. I have a recording (on 1 CD) of a 4-hand reduction of the 6th by


: Alexander Zemlinsky, performed by Zenker & Trenker, on the unusual (to
: me) label MD+G (Dabringhaus & Grimm). How strange to hear this work
: on 2 pianos!

: I have heard of other reductions, but do not recall which symphonies.

There is a piano transcription of the 7th (by Alfredo Casella) and it
was recorded by the same team: Silvia Zenker & Evelinde Trenkner on
MD+G (a small German label known for its dedication to good sound and
lesser known compositions).

Mahler himself played extracts of the 4th and 5th symphony and some songs
which were recorded on the Welte-Mignon player piano.
Should be available on different labels.

Stephan


Matthias Schneider

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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There is a piano solo transcription of the Symphony No. 5 by Otto Singer
(Ed. Peters), which however is out of print. You might find it in a
library. All the symphonies (including the Adagio from no. 10) are available in
piano four-hand or two-piano versions (mostly out of print, see libraries). I
made my own piano solo transcriptions of the Adagietto of the Fifth Symphony
and part of the last movement of the Ninth Symphony.

Matthias Schneider

Buck Buchanan

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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There's been a lot of discussion of Mahler piano transcriptions, but I was
wondering about piano or organ transcriptions of any of Bruckner's
symphonies. Does anyone know if they exist , and if so, if they have been
recorded, and if they have been recorded, if they are worth buying? And
could someone give me a quick lesson in the art of the comma splice?

-- Buck Buchanan
rn...@columbia.edu
http://www.columbia.edu/~rnb10/

John Proffitt

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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In article <rnb10-30019...@buck.jj.rhno.columbia.edu>,
rn...@columbia.edu (Buck Buchanan) wrote:

> There's been a lot of discussion of Mahler piano transcriptions, but I was
> wondering about piano or organ transcriptions of any of Bruckner's
> symphonies. Does anyone know if they exist , and if so, if they have been
> recorded, and if they have been recorded, if they are worth buying? And
> could someone give me a quick lesson in the art of the comma splice?
>

One of the first jobs Gustav Mahler took upon himself as a student
attending Bruckner's classes at the Vienna Conservertory was a two piano
reduction of Symphony No. 3. There is a commercial CD recording of this
transcription, but I don't have details at hand. I'll do some checking and
post the info if I can find it.

Piano reductions of the other symphonies, by more or less anonymous hands,
have been published in Germany/Austria and can probably be found in larger
music libraries.

There is one CD on the Novalis label of organ works of Bruckner and organ
transcriptions of a couple of symphonic movements, from the early f-minor
and d-minor symphonies if memory serves me...Bruckner's original organ
works are pretty incidental to his output--minor doodlings I would say. The
transcriptions by the organist, Herr Horn, are rather nice.

John Proffitt

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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In article <jproffitt-3...@kuhf-2.kuhf.uh.edu>, jpro...@uh.edu
(John Proffitt) wrote:

> In article <rnb10-30019...@buck.jj.rhno.columbia.edu>,
> rn...@columbia.edu (Buck Buchanan) wrote:
>
> > There's been a lot of discussion of Mahler piano transcriptions, but I was
> > wondering about piano or organ transcriptions of any of Bruckner's
> > symphonies. Does anyone know if they exist , and if so, if they have been
> > recorded, and if they have been recorded, if they are worth buying? And
> > could someone give me a quick lesson in the art of the comma splice?
> >
> One of the first jobs Gustav Mahler took upon himself as a student
> attending Bruckner's classes at the Vienna Conservertory was a two piano
> reduction of Symphony No. 3. There is a commercial CD recording of this
> transcription, but I don't have details at hand. I'll do some checking and
> post the info if I can find it.
>

Here is the information: The Trenker/Speidel Piano Duo, on MD+G 6944

Keith Baggerly

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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In article <rnb10-30019...@buck.jj.rhno.columbia.edu>, rn...@columbia.edu (Buck Buchanan) writes:
|> There's been a lot of discussion of Mahler piano transcriptions, but I was
|> wondering about piano or organ transcriptions of any of Bruckner's
|> symphonies. Does anyone know if they exist , and if so, if they have been
|> recorded, and if they have been recorded, if they are worth buying? And
|> could someone give me a quick lesson in the art of the comma splice?
|>

Well, Zenker + Trenker, who play the 4-hand transcriptions of Mahler's 6th and 7th
syphonies, have also recently come out with a recording of the 4-hand transcription
of Bruckner's 3rd symphony (said transcription having been made by Mahler). The
recording is also on MD+G, but I don't have it with me for the catalog number.

Keith Baggerly

Craig Mirate

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Feb 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/2/96
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Funny you should ask. I am in the process of obtaining a copy
of the Bruckner 3rd for two pianos. Transcription by, who
else, Mahler. A friend is getting it for me. I will post the
disk information when I receive it.

Craig

Aaron Z. Snyder

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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Minor correction: Mahler's friend and fellow-classmate Rudolf Krzyzanowski
transcribed the fourth movement in this joint project.

I haven't heard the Trenker/Speidel recording, but I did hear a live
performance at the Bruckner Symposium, Connecticut College, two years ago.
The transcription is quite good, although, oddly, the fourth movment has a
cut in the third movement recapitulation compared to the orchestral version
of the score (1877 version). Is this another touching up by Bruckner
himself?

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Mike Quigley

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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rn...@columbia.edu (Buck Buchanan) wrote:

>There's been a lot of discussion of Mahler piano transcriptions, but I was
>wondering about piano or organ transcriptions of any of Bruckner's
>symphonies. Does anyone know if they exist , and if so, if they have been
>recorded, and if they have been recorded, if they are worth buying?

I once owned a transcription for piano duet of one of Bruckner's symphonies
... this was strictly for masochists -- bars and bars of tremolo. I gave it
away to the library!

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