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samir ghiocel golescu

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the best
ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better transfer,
substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very satisfactory
transfer. Coupled with Squire/Harty in Elgar's Cello Concerto.

regards,
SG


Neil

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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On Tue, 25 May 1999 09:43:03 -0500, samir ghiocel golescu
<gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:

>Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the best
>ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better transfer,
>substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very satisfactory
>transfer

Oooh - I'm a bit iffy about the speed he takes it at.

At the end of the day, all considered, I'd still opt for the heifetz version.
Sammons however is mightily impressive, and what technique. That piece is a
monster; Perlman said it was the hardest concerto he had ever played.

But the new transfer is very good news and will be good to hear. The version I
have is pretty lousy soundwise.

<claim to fame>

sammons taught my violin teacher

</claim to fame>

Neil
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Dave Gomberg

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.990525...@ux11.cso.uiuc.edu>,
gol...@students.uiuc.edu says...

>
> Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the best
> ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better transfer,
> substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very satisfactory
> transfer. Coupled with Squire/Harty in Elgar's Cello Concerto.
>
> regards,
> SG

Do you think they will exchange the old "not very satisfactory" CD
for a new one for those of us who have the old one? ;);)

Dave Gomberg

samir ghiocel golescu

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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On Tue, 25 May 1999, Dave Gomberg wrote:

> gol...@students.uiuc.edu says...
> >
> > Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the best
> > ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better transfer,
> > substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very satisfactory
> > transfer. Coupled with Squire/Harty in Elgar's Cello Concerto.
> >
> > regards,
> > SG
>
> Do you think they will exchange the old "not very satisfactory" CD
> for a new one for those of us who have the old one? ;);)

You can always try, at least that's what the guy who sued the United
States Government because in a rainy day he caught a cold said !!! (-:

Samir


Matthew B. Tepper

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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In article <MPG.11b4a198a4a45d359896b6@news>, dgom...@home.net pondered
what I'm pondering as follows...
>
>In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.990525...@ux11.cso.uiuc.edu>,
>gol...@students.uiuc.edu says...
>>
>> Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the
>> best ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better
>> transfer, substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very
>> satisfactory transfer. Coupled with Squire/Harty in Elgar's Cello
>> Concerto.
>>
>> regards,
>> SG
>
>Do you think they will exchange the old "not very satisfactory" CD
>for a new one for those of us who have the old one? ;);)
>
>Dave Gomberg

oink oink flap flap

But this *is* good news, as I've long admired this recording.

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theo...@my-dejanews.com

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.990525...@ux11.cso.uiuc.edu>,

samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the
best
> ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better
transfer,
> substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very satisfactory
> transfer. Coupled with Squire/Harty in Elgar's Cello Concerto.
>
> regards,
> SG
>
> Good news indeed. Sammons was a wonderful violinist. I also
recommend his recording of Moeran's Violin Concerto on Symposium
Records recorded live at Norwich. It is a marvellous performance and
miraculous that the private tape has proved so good. Hugh Bean, no
mean violinist himself, tells a wonderful story of how as a student he
played part of the Mendelssohn concerto to Sammons, his teacher.
Sammons, who rarely used technical musical terms, congratulated him on
his playing but asked for more legato with the words: "It needs to be a
bit more stretchy, old chap." Sammons is beautifully "stretchy" in the
Elgar and present for all to hear and hopefully appreciate is the
subtle art of rubato which seems completely out of fashion today. It
could be argued that "stretchiness" is written into the Elgar concerto
and perhaps this is part of what makes the Sammon performance so
wonderful.


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Ernest Jones

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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Good news! But pity it's not Dutton

Ernest Jones
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samir ghiocel golescu

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May 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/25/99
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On Tue, 25 May 1999 theo...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> samir ghiocel golescu <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the
> best
> > ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better
> transfer,
> > substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very satisfactory
> > transfer. Coupled with Squire/Harty in Elgar's Cello Concerto.
> >

> > Good news indeed. Sammons was a wonderful violinist. I also
> recommend his recording of Moeran's Violin Concerto on Symposium
> Records recorded live at Norwich. It is a marvellous performance and
> miraculous that the private tape has proved so good. Hugh Bean, no
> mean violinist himself, tells a wonderful story of how as a student he
> played part of the Mendelssohn concerto to Sammons, his teacher.
> Sammons, who rarely used technical musical terms, congratulated him on
> his playing but asked for more legato with the words: "It needs to be a
> bit more stretchy, old chap." Sammons is beautifully "stretchy" in the
> Elgar and present for all to hear and hopefully appreciate is the
> subtle art of rubato which seems completely out of fashion today. It
> could be argued that "stretchiness" is written into the Elgar concerto
> and perhaps this is part of what makes the Sammon performance so
> wonderful.

Absolutely agree, especially as Elgar specifically wanted expression and
flexibility from his interpreters, above silly literalism and steadiness.
Elgar's own recordings (as a conductor) contain tones of rubato and
portamenti, sometimes just a bit "disorganized", that's true, but after
all he was not a virtuoso conductor, "only" a very great musician
conducting...

I would say that nobody, neither Heifetz or (my next choice after Sammons)
the young Menuhin, "resonated" with Elgar's musical ethos as much
as Sammons, in this 1929 recording. Technique? Yes, but much more than
technique.

regards,
SG


Deryk Barker

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May 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/26/99
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samir ghiocel golescu (gol...@students.uiuc.edu) wrote:
[...]
: I would say that nobody, neither Heifetz or (my next choice after Sammons)

: the young Menuhin, "resonated" with Elgar's musical ethos as much
: as Sammons, in this 1929 recording. Technique? Yes, but much more than
: technique.

Of purely academic interest, but has anyone heard (or got) Sammons'
acoustic recording, which appeared in 1916 shortly before the Marie
Hall/Elgar, making Sammons the first to record it in either format.

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Fred Rupert

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May 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/27/99
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I'm not surprised at Perlman's comment. There is are some knuckle-busting
passages in the Elgar, especially one really awful one near the end of the first
mvt.

Neil wrote:

> On Tue, 25 May 1999 09:43:03 -0500, samir ghiocel golescu


> <gol...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> >Good news! Albert Sammons's version of Elgar's Violin Concerto, the best
> >ever recorded (IMHO), will be republished by Pearl, in a better transfer,
> >substituting the deleted old CD, containing a not very satisfactory

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