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Fauré Requiem w Arroyo, Prey, Waldman on US Decca Gold

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mark

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Jan 6, 2010, 2:22:05 PM1/6/10
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Has this LP ever made it to CD? I imprinted on this recording while in
college and loved the performance. Arroyo is exquisite in the Pie
Jesu.

I'd like to get it on CD if it's around. Download would do if that's
the only option.

td

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:15:21 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 6, 2:22 pm, mark <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has this LP ever made it to CD?

Quick answer? No.

Frankly, Mark, I was quite unaware of it's existence.

TD

mark

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:55:51 PM1/6/10
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Frederic Waldman did a number of recordings with his Musica Aeterna
group for American Decca. There was a Haydn Creation with Judith
Raskin, John McCollum and Chester Watson as the soloists and a chamber
music disc from Alice Tully Hall. I get that they were a NYC-based
group from the late 60s or early 70s. The LPs show up for cheap on e-
bay.

Grover Gardner

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:55:13 PM1/6/10
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I love Waldman's recordings. His Handel "L'Allegro, il Penseroso ed
il Moderato" is especially wonderful. Nothing has been reissued on CD
and it's a pity. To hear some wonderful Waldman on CD you can check
out Arbiter's releases of concerts from the Metropolitan Museum,
including two volumes of wonderful Mozart concertos with Horoszowski
and a series of stunning concerts with Erica Morini.

Now, maybe this is something I can finally contribute to the group!
I'll dig out some of my LPs and see if I can upload them somewhere.
I've got just about everything he did, tho some of them might be in
storage. I think I have the Faure at hand and a few other things.

mark

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:57:20 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 6, 5:15 pm, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:

Did a bit more research on Frederic Waldman. His NY Times obit may be
found online. Apparently, he did the first complete-at-the-time
recording of the works of Varese back in the 60s. He also did an
Israel in Egypt that I owned on LP (I had totally forgotten about that
one). Maybe Universal could look into reissuing these recordings.
Don;t the own American Decca these days?

mark

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Jan 6, 2010, 11:02:25 PM1/6/10
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I first encountered his recordings when I attended Kent State U
starting in 1972. They were always showing up at the campus bookstore
for $1.99 each, along with a lot of Vox and Everest LPs that were
being remaindered. When I moved to NYC in 77, I saw his recordings all
over the place, so much so that I never gave them much of a look. I
remember the choir being very good on his discs. I assume his forces
were made up of NYC freelancers and that the personnel changed as
frequently as did that of Robert Shaw's Chorale.

mark

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Jan 6, 2010, 11:05:41 PM1/6/10
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Here's Waldman's obit from the NYT. Pretty impressive:

Frederic Waldman, Conductor And Teacher, Is Dead at 92
By ALLAN KOZINN
Published: December 5, 1995

Frederic Waldman, an enterprising conductor who for more than 30 years
presented programs of forgotten works by great composers of the past
as well as premieres of contemporary works, died on Friday at his home
in Manhattan. He was 92.

Mr. Waldman was a powerful presence on the New York music scene from
the early 1950's, when he was music director of the Juilliard Opera
Theater, through 1985, when he retired as director of Musica Aeterna,
the ensemble he founded in 1957.

At the Juilliard School, where he taught from 1947 to 1967, Mr.
Waldman conducted the American premieres of Strauss's "Capriccio,"
Zoltan Kodaly's "Hary Janos," Luigi Dallapiccola's "Prisoner" and
Benjamin Britten's arrangement of "The Beggar's Opera," as well as the
world premiere of William Bergsma's "Wife of Martin Guerre." And with
Musica Aeterna, he revived many rarities that later came to be more
frequently performed, among them Rossini's "Petite Messe Solonelle,"
Handel's setting of "L'Allegro ed Il Penseroso" and the Dvorak
"Requiem," and works by Schutz, Monteverdi, Rameau and various sons of
Bach.

Mr. Waldman was born in Vienna on April 17, 1903. He studied the piano
privately with Richard Robert, starting in 1918. Later he studied
orchestration and conducting with George Szell and composition with
Karl Weigl. He began his professional career as a rehearsal pianist.
In the 1930's, he worked as a coach on productions conducted by
Strauss and Toscanini, and in several German opera houses. He had also
started conducting and was the music director of the Ballet Joos, a
Dutch troupe. In 1935, he moved to England, where he taught and
conducted until 1941, when he made his way to New York.

In New York he taught at the Mannes College of Music for five years
before joining the Juilliard faculty. He also continued to work as an
accompanist. One of the singers he worked with was Alice Tully, the
arts patron for whom the chamber music hall at Lincoln Center is
named. Miss Tully soon became Mr. Waldman's anonymous benefactor. In
1956, she underwrote a concert in which Mr. Waldman and a freelance
ensemble accompanied Mieczyslaw Horszowski in a program of Mozart
concertos at the Metropolitan Opera.

The next year, she persuaded the Metropolitan Museum to present a
series of orchestral programs conducted by Mr. Waldman, with lectures
by Emanuel Winternitz, the curator of the museum's instrument
department.

The series was at first called "Music Forgotten and Remembered," but
by 1961 Mr. Waldman began calling his ensemble the Musica Aeterna
Orchestra and giving concerts not only at the museum but also at
Carnegie Hall. Eventually, the orchestra appeared at Alice Tully Hall
as well, but it maintained its ties with the museum until the end.

The harpsichordist Albert Fuller, who performed with the group and
recently catalogued all of its performances for a book about Miss
Tully, said that Musica Aeterna performed nearly 500 works in 256
concerts. Besides reviving obscure works, the ensemble gave the world
premieres of Messiaen's "From the Canyons to the Stars" and symphonies
by Vittorio Rieti and Robert Casadesus.

Mr. Waldman is survived by his wife, Rachel Aubrey; a stepson, Stephen
Rustow, of Manhattan, and a stepdaughter, Janet Rustow, of Cambridge,
Mass.

Lawrence Chalmers

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Jan 9, 2010, 1:15:33 PM1/9/10
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I know him only from his recording of Varese works done with Julliard
ensemble
of Ionisaion, Density 21.5,a couple others I cannot recall at the
moment. I thought they were the first Varese ever committed
to disc. I have a cd reissue of it on the el
label from Cherry Red Records.

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