Impressions on a Windy Day by Malcolm Sargent, recording required
Derrick Fawsitt
late British Conductor Sir Malcolm Sargent. I would be most grateful if
anyone could help me, thank you.
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Rob Barnett
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Rob Barnett
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00012SHYI/qid%3D1093723952/026-3001670-9552455
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<Rob.Ba...@btinternet.com> writes
>Try
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00012SHYI/qid%3D1093723952/026
>-3001670-9552455
>
Rob.
I cannot thank you enough, I searched myself, (I am usually reasonably
good at it), but failed. We don't know each other but I must give you
the Olympic Gold Medal for your information. It might interest you to
note that I am a friend of Peter Sargent, (Sir Malcolm's son), who has
not been in the best of health recently. However I am glad to say he is
now recovering and I have just told him that an amateur orchestra which
I support and play for is going to perform this piece of his dad's at a
concert they are giving in Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire, (UK). This
is where Sir Malcolm played the Organ in his youth and having invited
Peter and his wife to the concert he has also said that he will conduct
his father's composition on the night, a great honour for us.
So having to play the work I wanted to hear what it was like and thanks
to you, I will now be able to do so. I see the box set is well worth the
money as I collect British Music and it has Five CD's of it, some pieces
I have never heard before.
So if any subscribers to this news group would like details of this
concert I am prepared to post them here, (by request only), as I am not
sure if doing so breaks any rules or regulations.
Once again Rob, all my thanks.
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Derrick Fawsitt
Alan Watkins
> late British Conductor Sir Malcolm Sargent. I would be most grateful if
> anyone could help me, thank you.
Written in 1924 or 1926 for the Llandudno Pier Orchestra (who
premiered it with Sargent conducting) but long gone I would think
(like the Llandudno Pier Orchestra).
Just as Adrian Boult said that Alec MacLean (conductor of the
"Hastings Municipal Orchestra" - the Halle on holiday in the 1920's -)
was the greatest Mozart conductor he had ever heard and who played
both Glazunov piano concertos with Elena Glazunov playing piano. (I
have the Telefunken LP of her later effort)
Died 1936, I think, or as Sir Adrian put it: "He could have got music
out of a stone. I have not met anyone like him, save for Heward."
Never made a recording.
Kind regards,
Alan M. Watkins
Rob Barnett
Brian Kay's BRITISH LIGHT MUSIC Classics MALCOLM ARNOLD Overture: The Roots
of Heaven; WILLIAM ALWYN Suite of Scottish Dances; MALCOLM SARGENT An
Impression on a Windy Day; CLIFTON PARKER Overture - The Glass Slipper;
JAMES LANGLEY The Coloured Counties; GORDON JACOB The Barber of Seville Goes
to the Devil; MAURICE JOHNSTONE Tarn Hows: A Cumbrian Rhapsody; ALAN
LANGFORD Overture: Two Worlds; RICHARD RODNEY BENNETT Little Suite; DAVID
LYON Overture: Joie de vivre Royal Ballet Sinfonia conducted by Gavin
Sutherland ASV CD WHL 2113 70:11 " H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H
Sir Malcolm Sargent is remembered as a distinguished conductor especially by
older British Promenade Concert enthusiasts, yet his An Impression on a
Windy Day shows that he had considerable skills as a composer. This is
highly pictorial music, supremely evocative; Sargent vividly captures the
atmosphere of a wild, blustery day with music that reminds one of
Mendelssohn while the more romantic elements recall Eric Coates. (Has the
work a hidden programme about a pair of lovers' sometimes stormy
relationship?) This is a perfect little gem that makes one wonder what
Sargent might have accomplished if he had chosen to develop this facet of
his talents. ... courtesy Ian Lace review
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Derrick Fawsitt
<Rob.Ba...@btinternet.com> writes
>Just realised there is an alternative though not sure if still available:-
>
>Brian Kay's BRITISH LIGHT MUSIC Classics MALCOLM ARNOLD Overture: The Roots
>of Heaven; WILLIAM ALWYN Suite of Scottish Dances; MALCOLM SARGENT An
>Impression on a Windy Day; CLIFTON PARKER Overture - The Glass Slipper;
>JAMES LANGLEY The Coloured Counties; GORDON JACOB The Barber of Seville Goes
>to the Devil; MAURICE JOHNSTONE Tarn Hows: A Cumbrian Rhapsody; ALAN
>LANGFORD Overture: Two Worlds; RICHARD RODNEY BENNETT Little Suite; DAVID
>LYON Overture: Joie de vivre Royal Ballet Sinfonia conducted by Gavin
>Sutherland ASV CD WHL 2113 70:11 " H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H
>
>Sir Malcolm Sargent is remembered as a distinguished conductor especially by
>older British Promenade Concert enthusiasts, yet his An Impression on a
>Windy Day shows that he had considerable skills as a composer. This is
>highly pictorial music, supremely evocative; Sargent vividly captures the
>atmosphere of a wild, blustery day with music that reminds one of
>Mendelssohn while the more romantic elements recall Eric Coates. (Has the
>work a hidden programme about a pair of lovers' sometimes stormy
>relationship?) This is a perfect little gem that makes one wonder what
>Sargent might have accomplished if he had chosen to develop this facet of
>his talents. ... courtesy Ian Lace review
Just found it on Amazon and ordered a copy, many thanks. I shall be
showing your very excellent and informative account of Impressions on a
Windy Day to Peter Sargent. I am sure it will give him a lot of
pleasure.
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Derrick Fawsitt
Rob Barnett
by Ian Lace (who also writes for Fanfare)
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Rodger Whitlock
> Sir Malcolm Sargent is remembered as a distinguished conductor...
And then there's Beecham's famously devastating remark about HvK:
"a sort of musical Malcolm Sargent".
Which, I might add for the benefit of the unsubtle, the
inattentive, and the dull, deftly skewers both.
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Derrick Fawsitt
<toto...@atlanticcoast.invalid> writes
>On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 05:26:08 +0000 (UTC), Rob Barnett wrote:
>
>> Sir Malcolm Sargent is remembered as a distinguished conductor...
>
>And then there's Beecham's famously devastating remark about HvK:
>"a sort of musical Malcolm Sargent".
>
>Which, I might add for the benefit of the unsubtle, the
>inattentive, and the dull, deftly skewers both.
Mind you, Beecham had a lot of respect for Sargent.
However, I am glad to say a local amateur orchestra here in Rutland,
UK., namely the Rutland Sinfonia is going to perform Impression on a
Windy Day by Malcolm Sargent on the 5th March 2005 conducted by his son
Peter Sargent. This is a great honour for the orchestra as its the first
time Peter has conducted his father's work. Just incidentally for anyone
living in or near that area of the UK who might like to attend and who
would be most welcome, the rest of the programme is :-
Verdi: I Vespri Siciliani
Janacek: Taras Bulba
Elgar: Enigma Variations
Kind regards,
--
Derrick Fawsitt
Alan Watkins
I understand that this is a great honour and I am sure you will enjoy
the occasion. Listen to Tarn Hows on that disc. I have Maurice
Johnstone's last revision of that score, a few weeks before he died in
Hertfordshire. There are a few changes to the horn parts, nothing
much else.
When he was the BBC (North) Head of Music the then BBC Northern
Symphony (leader Reginald Stead, conductor Brydon Thomson and now the
BBC Philharmonic) used to play it on his birthday but that has not
happened for a very long time.
It was used for an Australian TV series and the composer was much
amused to get shoals of letters from "down under" asking where they
could get a recording. Alas, at that time, they could not.
When you listen to Tarn Hows you need to realise that this wonderful
place in the Lake District has an "echo" (it is a huge lake surrounded
by woods and stone) which is several times reflected in the music. I
have walked it and listened to my echo. We climbed and climbed our way
to it by car and when I asked my friend from Keswick why it had
suddenly become foggy he said: "It is not fog. We are in a cloud."
Taras Bulba and the Enigma will keep the percussion department of the
Rutland Sinfonia happy (and occupied) :):)
I have a recording on Pearl of the Rutland Sinfonia.
To the previous poster who made reference to Beecham's comment (NEVER
take him too seriously) Dr Sargent was not the most popular conductor
among orchestral musicians of the time (we are very sensitive people)
but if he was anywhere near as offensive as either Mr Solti (with
Szell in contention for the Silver) I would be very surprised.
So far as I know Dr Sargent did not earn the epithet the "Screaming
Skull" during his various tenures. Flash Harry, yes, but not
Screaming Skull.
Derrick Fawsitt
Watkins <alanwa...@aol.com> writes
Thank you Alan, I enjoyed the above immensely. I will indeed look
forward to hearing Tarn Hows as I am ashamed to say I do not know it but
love the Lake District so I start by being half way there.
Amazed you have the old Rutland Sinfonia disk, I joined them about a
year or two after that so am not playing on the disk.
Have you noticed both in this thread and the other one I have posted
elsewhere, the subject of amateur orchestras gets very little response.
I find this strange in that surely quite a lot of the posters both here
in the UK and in the USA who play or played a musical instrument must
have started somewhere or played in some kind of band or orchestra.
Usually that is a very enjoyable and memorable time of ones life and
yet, apart from yourself and one or two of us, no great response.
Perhaps this comment in itself might draw a few out, but somehow I doubt
it.
Could it be that they are ashamed of those early years with all the
mistakes they made before they gained experience, I must leave it for
them to answer that, that is if we get any response.
Kind regards to all,
--
Derrick Fawsitt
Derek Haslam
<62c8649c.04082...@posting.google.com>, Alan
Watkins <alanwa...@aol.com> wrote:
> To the previous poster who made reference to Beecham's
> comment (NEVER take him too seriously) Dr Sargent was not
> the most popular conductor among orchestral musicians of
> the time (we are very sensitive people) but if he was
> anywhere near as offensive as either Mr Solti (with Szell
> in contention for the Silver) I would be very surprised.
It's well-known that he was unpopular with orchestral
players but choirs apparently loved him.
Derek Haslam
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Alan Watkins
> Thank you Alan, I enjoyed the above immensely. I will indeed look
> forward to hearing Tarn Hows as I am ashamed to say I do not know it but
> love the Lake District so I start by being half way there.
> Amazed you have the old Rutland Sinfonia disk, I joined them about a
> year or two after that so am not playing on the disk.
>
> Have you noticed both in this thread and the other one I have posted
> elsewhere, the subject of amateur orchestras gets very little response.
> I find this strange in that surely quite a lot of the posters both here
> in the UK and in the USA who play or played a musical instrument must
> have started somewhere or played in some kind of band or orchestra.
> Usually that is a very enjoyable and memorable time of ones life and
> yet, apart from yourself and one or two of us, no great response.
> Perhaps this comment in itself might draw a few out, but somehow I doubt
> it.
>
> Could it be that they are ashamed of those early years with all the
> mistakes they made before they gained experience, I must leave it for
> them to answer that, that is if we get any response.
>
>
happy to recount their days "getting started" and certainly some
people on here are playing and singing in various groups. Perhaps
they have just not noticed the thread.
I hope you will enjoy Tarn Hows and it would be a wonderful piece for
the Rutland Sinfonia. It is not overly difficult but quite a large
orchestra (round about Shropshire Lad size but used a lot more). See
what you think of it. I first heard a performance "halfway through"
when I switched on to the old Third Programme and it was being
broadcast on Maurice Johnstone's birthday. I first thought it was a
work by Debussy that I did not know!
I got Bob Simpson at the BBC to fish out the tape for me and I had
quite a lot of correspondence with Maurice about it (he was retired by
then). He was revising it right up to his death and sent me his last
revisions which I sent to the BBC Northern library after his death.
I imagine it is this edition used on the recording for the BBC are, so
far as I know, the only library with the parts. I must buy a copy
myself.
He always hoped for a recording in his time but sadly it did not
happen. ABC sent him their recording for TV and he was very pleased
with that. Eric Pinkett was going to do it with the Leicestershire
Schools Orchestra/Unicorn but unfortunately Eric died suddenly and the
whole project fell to pieces.
Alan Watkins
> In article
> <62c8649c.04082...@posting.google.com>, Alan
> Watkins <alanwa...@aol.com> wrote:
> > To the previous poster who made reference to Beecham's
> > comment (NEVER take him too seriously) Dr Sargent was not
> > the most popular conductor among orchestral musicians of
> > the time (we are very sensitive people) but if he was
> > anywhere near as offensive as either Mr Solti (with Szell
> > in contention for the Silver) I would be very surprised.
>
> It's well-known that he was unpopular with orchestral
> players but choirs apparently loved him.
>
> Derek Haslam
That is also my understanding. The animosity was not intense but it
went back to a time when the London musicians were threatening to
strike over pay rates. They went to various conductors for support
and gained the support of Beecham, Boult, Cameron and other conductors
of the period. Apparently Sargent refused to support them and made a
remark like: "So far as I am concerned you can all starve if you don't
want to play" or something very similar but that was the essence of
it.
Obviously that did not go down well and when I first heard this story
from players they would have been of the same era in which that remark
was made. He got good performances from them and several messages
from Sibelius saying how much he had enjoyed Sargent's performances of
his symphonies, several of which he recorded with the BBC Symphony, so
it was not an enduring thing.
Talich is (rightly) regarded by many as a great conductor but the
orchestral musicians of the time were not so enamoured. He was,
apparently, very "grumpy" at rehearsals.
Derrick Fawsitt
have got, not only a recording of the subject work, (Impressions on a
Windy Day), but the five disks of British Light Music on which that work
is included. All I can say is "Bliss!", I am off to Arcadia with Lionel
Monkton and others thanks to a contributor to this thread and I am armed
also with all the information from the rest of you so that I can have
many hours of enjoyment.
What can one say but accept my thanks and gratitude.
Regards to all,
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Derrick Fawsitt
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Tepper <?@earthlink.net.invalid> writes
>Derrick Fawsitt <4...@fitzwilliamonline.com> appears to have caused the
>following letters to be typed in
>news:YZZw6bAy...@fitzwilliamonline.com:
>
>> As a result of posting here to this NG and the help I have received, I
>> have got, not only a recording of the subject work, (Impressions on a
>> Windy Day), but the five disks of British Light Music on which that work
>> is included. All I can say is "Bliss!", I am off to Arcadia with Lionel
>> Monkton and others thanks to a contributor to this thread and I am armed
>> also with all the information from the rest of you so that I can have
>> many hours of enjoyment.
>>
>> What can one say but accept my thanks and gratitude.
>
>Bliss? I'd start out with the Colour Symphony, the Piano Concerto (Trevor
>Barnard's recording has been reissued in a more cost-effective release),
>and especially the "Things to Come" Suite; the most complete is on Chandos.
>
Tintagel and some Piano music. I did not take to the Colour Symphony
when I first heard it a good few years ago but since then, (hopefully),
I have acquired better taste.
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Derrick Fawsitt
Matthew B. Tepper
"Tintagel" is by Bax.
Alan Watkins
> Derrick Fawsitt <4...@fitzwilliamonline.com> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in
> news:YZZw6bAy...@fitzwilliamonline.com:
>
> > As a result of posting here to this NG and the help I have received, I
> > have got, not only a recording of the subject work, (Impressions on a
> > Windy Day), but the five disks of British Light Music on which that work
> > is included. All I can say is "Bliss!", I am off to Arcadia with Lionel
> > Monkton and others thanks to a contributor to this thread and I am armed
> > also with all the information from the rest of you so that I can have
> > many hours of enjoyment.
> >
> > What can one say but accept my thanks and gratitude.
>
> Bliss? I'd start out with the Colour Symphony, the Piano Concerto (Trevor
> Barnard's recording has been reissued in a more cost-effective release),
> and especially the "Things to Come" Suite; the most complete is on Chandos.
I rather like Checkmate.
Derrick Fawsitt
Watkins <alanwa...@aol.com> writes
Tintagel, I was somewhat "at sea", but its easily done.
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D.L. Haslam
Matthew B. Tepper <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
> Bliss? I'd start out with the Colour Symphony, the Piano
> Concerto (Trevor Barnard's recording has been reissued
> in a more cost-effective release), and especially the
> "Things to Come" Suite; the most complete is on Chandos.
Are their any modern recordings of the violin concerto? I
don't know if even the 1956(?) Campoli made it on to CD.
Derek Haslam
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Rob Barnett
although there were several exBBC broadcasts that came out on Carlton
Classics and the Georgeiadis broadcast from circa 1975 might be there ...
not sure though. The Campoli made it on to CD on the now defunct British
label Beulah - 3PD10 complete with Bliss's Theme and Cadenza and the
Wilhelms arrangement of the Tchaik Violin Concerto 3PD10. The Bliss is mono
LPO/composer. The Tchaik Stereo with Argenta.
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Derek Haslam
Barnett <Rob.Ba...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> As far as I know there are no modern recordings of the
> Bliss Violin Concerto although there were several exBBC
> broadcasts that came out on Carlton Classics and the
> Georgeiadis broadcast from circa 1975 might be there ...
> not sure though. The Campoli made it on to CD on the now
> defunct British label Beulah - 3PD10 complete with
> Bliss's Theme and Cadenza and the Wilhelms arrangement of
> the Tchaik Violin Concerto 3PD10. The Bliss is mono
> LPO/composer. The Tchaik Stereo with Argenta.
Thanks Rob. I guess I'll have to hang on to my Decca
'Eclipse' LP, pseudo-stereo remastering and all, unless a
copy of the Beulah CD turns up.
Rob Barnett
Try dropping an email to Beulah's proprietor Barry Coward at
ques...@eavb.co.uk - he might have a some spares - you never know. There
are signs on the Beulah site that the label might revive in October 2004.
http://www.eavb.co.uk/lp/index.html
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Rob Barnett
Bliss Violin Concerto - BBCSO/composer. It was issued in 1996 as part of
Carlton's BBC Radio Classics series (1565691842). Coupled wth the ballet The
L:ady of Shalott. A disc long gone, I am afraid.
The excellent John Georgiadis performance from 1975 (BBCSO/Handley) was
never issued commercially. Interesting that the Bliss piano concerto has
been recorded four times but the violin concerto only by Campoli. We await
also the recording premiere of Bliss's major choral piece The Beatitudes.
Derek Haslam
<Rob.Ba...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I have checked and there is a second (different) Campoli
> recording of the Bliss Violin Concerto - BBCSO/composer.
> It was issued in 1996 as part of Carlton's BBC Radio
> Classics series (1565691842). Coupled wth the ballet The
> L:ady of Shalott. A disc long gone, I am afraid.
> The excellent John Georgiadis performance from 1975
> (BBCSO/Handley) was never issued commercially.
> Interesting that the Bliss piano concerto has been
> recorded four times but the violin concerto only by
> Campoli. We await also the recording premiere of Bliss's
> major choral piece The Beatitudes.
Yes, it's always puzzled me why this v.c. hasn't been more
popular. As a teenager I was introduced to it on record by
a violin-playing friend. 3 or 4 of us used to play the
record again and again. That 2nd theme in the first
movement is one of the most memorable Bliss wrote.
Even the piano concerto has suffered neglect. For many
years the only recording available in the UK was the
Fowke/Liverpool Phil/Atherton on Unicorn. It's done much
better recently with a Naxos release of Solomon's recording
(1948?), Donohoe's recent Naxos, and the 1952 Noel
Mewton-Wood which I've been listening to this afternoon. A
storming performance!
Derek Haslam
Barnett <Rob.Ba...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Derek
> Try dropping an email to Beulah's proprietor Barry Coward
> at ques...@eavb.co.uk - he might have a some spares -
> you never know. There are signs on the Beulah site that
> the label might revive in October 2004.
I'll give it a try. Thanks very much Rob.
Derek
Derrick Fawsitt
<que...@ukgateway.net> writes
Having read all the posts in this thread it amazes me what excellent
information on British music in general Impressions on a Windy managed
to carry in "on the Breeze". Also my mistake between Bliss and Bax
managed to add a few more items of information on top.
You would have to deduce therefore that its "and ill wind that does not
blow in some good", (sorry) ;-))
--
Derrick Fawsitt
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> I am trying to obtain a recording of a piece of music written by the
> late British Conductor Sir Malcolm Sargent. I would be most grateful if
> anyone could help me, thank you.
> --
> Derrick Fawsitt
My interest is that Sir Malcom and my grandfather, Albert Sargent, were contemporaries and were both from families in Stamford, Lincolnshire. Little seems to be recorded about the genealogy, but I am keen to pursue the enquiry.
My father, Kenneth Sargent was an organist and music teacher, and I have been an amateur musician all my life, now conducting a choral society in Petersfield, Hampshire.
Any assistance you can give me will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Steve Sargent