Saint-Saens Organ Symphony

randy wolfgang

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Jul 15, 2022, 5:12:11 PM7/15/22

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Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

MickeyBoy

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Jul 15, 2022, 7:34:13 PM7/15/22

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:12:11 PM UTC-5, randy wolfgang wrote:
> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

I've heard it live and it is quite an experience. Of course the organ is amplified. The lowest note - C at 16 Hz IIRC - is just stunning. Of course we probably just hear the octave up, but the sound just hovers everywhere, no seat is exempt. You could almost reach up and touch it. Part of this is that it is set up musically. It seems impossible for a home audio system to come anywhere close. This was in Columbia Missouri with the Missouri Symphony in an old movie house with restored hall and organ. I haven't heard any thing like it in other venues here in the US and abroad.

randy wolfgang

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Jul 15, 2022, 7:47:24 PM7/15/22

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Wow so the organ was the type that was part of theater and used for silent film!!! That must have been something Randy

gggg gggg

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Jul 15, 2022, 8:32:37 PM7/15/22

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-7, randy wolfgang wrote:
> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics4/saintsaens.html

sci.space

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Jul 16, 2022, 8:30:56 AM7/16/22

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Last live performance I attended was quite some time ago, Munch with the Boston Symphony. The Symphony Hall organ was NOT amplified and held its own, shook the place.

Dan Koren

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Jul 16, 2022, 3:29:31 PM7/16/22

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This must have been quite some time ago!

dk

sci.space

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Jul 17, 2022, 8:45:18 AM7/17/22

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held its own, shook the
> > place.
> This must have been quite some time ago!
>
> dk

Almost 60 years ago.

Dan Koren

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Jul 17, 2022, 5:50:45 PM7/17/22

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On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 5:45:18 AM UTC-7, sci.space wrote:
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> > > held its own, shook the place.
> >
> > This must have been quite some time ago!
>

> Almost 60 years ago.

Is it stlll shaking? Or does the BSO now
rely on the subway for sound effects?

dk

gggg gggg

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Jun 13, 2023, 3:55:28 PM6/13/23

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-7, randy wolfgang wrote:

> Just heard the newly remastered Paray with Dupre and it is absolutely MAGNIFICENT. And man you really hear that organ! That raises a question - I have never heard it live. How do they handle the organ sound at the concert hall - a regular organ just can't hold its own against a large orchestra. Do they amplify the sound of the organ so it better balances against the orchestra??? Randy

(2023 Y. upload):

"RCA Living Stereo - Charles Munch Saint-Saens Symphony No 3 Organ -"

Ed Presson

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Jun 14, 2023, 1:27:39 PM6/14/23

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"gggg gggg" wrote in message
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With all due respect, I have heard this symphony live with a real pipe organ
in the Seattle Symphony's main concert hall. The organ can, when desired,
more than hold its own against the full
symphony orchestra. It can also hold forth magnificently in Mahler's Second
Symphony. No amplification required in either case. What a sonic
experience in both cases!

Ed Presson

Dan Koren

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Jun 14, 2023, 4:14:11 PM6/14/23

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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-7, randy wolfgang wrote:
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ROTFL !!!

Organs are uniquely individual instruments and it is difficult
to generalize. However many (most?) large organs in large
concert halls can EASILY DROWN orchestras completely
at full blast. Human lungs and muscle cannot compete
with electrical power. Not even close.

dk