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How many trax for Liszt B Minor Sonata?

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Russ (not Martha)

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May 10, 2012, 12:37:35 PM5/10/12
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A little over a year ago, I posted a request for opinions of Diana
Kacso, whom I mistakenly described as the 1st prizewinner of the
Arthur Rubinstein Competition in 1977 (I misread the LP jacket; she
actually came in second to Gerhard Oppitz).

There was a DG Concours LP of Kacso (Liszt Sonata, Chopin Polonaise-
Fantasie and Etude Op 10/10), which I don't expect to see reissued on
CD in this lifetime. So it's down to the sea in ships for Cap'n Russ.

To come to the point, how many CD tracks do my rcmr friends consider
adequate for the Liszt Sonata? Horowitz / EMI has only a single
track (rather stingy); Argerich / DG has eleven (borders on
overkill). Does 3-6 seem appropriate? .

Russ (not Martha)

td

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May 10, 2012, 12:47:50 PM5/10/12
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On May 10, 12:37 pm, "Russ (not Martha)" <roppenh...@satx.rr.com>
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The Analekta Nareh Arghemanyan, whose date I just corrected on the
internet database linked to iTunes, has three.

But I have to question your decision regarding Ms. Kacso. Why bother?

TD

R. Edwards

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May 10, 2012, 12:51:50 PM5/10/12
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On Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:37:35 PM UTC-4, Russ (not Martha) wrote:

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> To come to the point, how many CD tracks do my rcmr friends consider
> adequate for the Liszt Sonata? Horowitz / EMI has only a single
> track (rather stingy); Argerich / DG has eleven (borders on
> overkill). Does 3-6 seem appropriate? .
>
> Russ (not Martha)

Most recordings are divided into three or four tracks.

Ray

Dufus

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May 10, 2012, 6:36:58 PM5/10/12
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>On May 10, 11:37 am, "Russ (not Martha)" <roppenh...@satx.rr.com> wrote:

> To come to the point, how many CD tracks do my rcmr friends consider
> adequate for the Liszt Sonata?

My 1991 DGG cd with Pogorelich ( paired with Scriabin 2nd Piano
Sonata ) has 13 tracks for the Liszt Sonata.

Dufus

Russ (not Martha)

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May 11, 2012, 12:07:51 PM5/11/12
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Diana does a very presentable job with Liszt & Chopin IMO. I picked
up 'the NM condition LP for the princely sum of one dollar at a Half
Price Books store. I don't expect DG to reissue any of these
Concours recitals. I have all of them expect for the one by the North
Vietnamese guy.

I enjoyed your characterization in a previous post of DK as a
competition junkie. She seems to have hung it all up back in 1992.

Russ (not Martha)

wade

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May 11, 2012, 1:20:58 PM5/11/12
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Should be index points rather than tracks, but heck thats the way they
can inflate the price of the disc on Itunes/emusic/Amazon and
introduce annoying gaps in playback.

Dufus

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May 11, 2012, 2:41:44 PM5/11/12
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>On May 11, 12:20 pm, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Should be index points rather than tracks, but heck thats the way they
> can inflate the price of the disc on Itunes/emusic/Amazon and
> introduce annoying gaps in playback.

The 13 "tracks" on my DGG Pogorelich cd are index points.

Dufus

Russ (not Martha)

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May 12, 2012, 11:58:15 AM5/12/12
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On May 11, 12:20 pm, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
How many CD players available these days support indexing?

Track divisions within continuous music should be seamless, and I go
to special effort to achieve this in my own transfers. But I have
encountered commercial CDs with jarring gaps between tracks that
should segue smoothly into the next. Two examples (may have been
corrected in the meantime, I don't know):

* Weber Grand Potpourri for Cello & Orch / Turnabout-Arkivmusic

* Khrennikov Piano Concertos / Kapelmeister

I stitched these together myself.

Russ (not Martha)

Firbank

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May 12, 2012, 5:37:36 PM5/12/12
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On May 10, 9:37 am, "Russ (not Martha)" <roppenh...@satx.rr.com>
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Half or more of the 10-12 I looked at just now use a single track. The
second-most-frequent scheme was three tracks, where Richter Philips,
Gilels Orfeo, Schliessman Bayer, and others all use the same scheme.

It's carefully enumerated in the Schliessmann:

1. Lento assai - Allegro energico - Grandioso - Recitativo 12:36
2. Andante sostenuto - Quasi adagio 7:16
3. Allegro energico - Piu mosso - Stretta quasi presto - Presto -
Prestissimo - Andante sostenuto - Allegro moderato - Lento assai
10:57

SE.

Kip Williams

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May 14, 2012, 7:54:20 PM5/14/12
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I have to echo wade's annoyance at track proliferation. Since I get a
lot of stuff from emusic. I don't mind if they break something that's
longer than ten minutes into a couple of tracks, because then I can get
a piece that would otherwise be "album only" ("If you want this one
track, you have to buy the whole album for it!"), but it's getting to be
a joke. I was counting how many tracks they split the first Rachmaninoff
piano sonata into and lost count. It was three or four per movement.

It brings to mind a cheesy 60s TV ad campaign (US) for "Joey Chips, the
corny potato chips" where the potato chip stood in front of a presumed
audience and told jokes. My favorite one was: "My hotel's nice enough,
but they're so hungry for tips — I called Room Service for a deck of
cards, and the bellboy made 52 trips!"


Kip W
"You're all Out of your Skulls! / You're cracked, you're batty, you're
flipped! / Why are grownups like you / Listening to / The Corny Potato
Chip?"
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