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Frank Forman

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As promised, unless I received substantial objections, I would upload my
25 Tahra albums. Here they are":
http://www.biddulphrecordings.co.uk/coming_soon.php

"Twice-zipped means that I zipped each volume and bunched them together by
zipping them again. None of the twice-zipped files are over a GigaByte, so
the downloading should go smoothly.

My decision is based on the fact that my aim is to make great recordings
available but not at the expense of discouraging labels, esp. the smaller
ones from making fresh transfers. Sadly, Réne Tremine passed away, and
there is no indication that Tahra, now under the total control of Myriam
Scherchen, will do more than sell its back stock. But even that is not
being done with much enthusiasm, if you try to work you way around the
website. More generally, we all get old. I passed my threescore years and
ten last month myself.

Here's what you get:
Tahra TAH 101 (2) Scherchen Mahler 3 and 10.1 BEST PERF. OF SYM. 3)
This is the greatest work of Mahler (Sym. 3, that is), its greatest
performance, the greatest performance of any Mahler, and very likely the
greatest Scherchen performance

Tahra TAH 102 (2) Abendroth Enregistrements 1927-1941
Good to heard some of his 78rpm recordings of Brahms

Tahra TAH 106-7 (2) Abendroth Gewandhauskapellmeister
Best Tragic Overture ever.

Tahra TAH 112 Scherchen Wagner S Idyll (chamber) and Tch 6
Don't care about the Wagner. The Tchaikovsky is underitalicized for
Scherchen and not comparable to Mengelberg and Mravinsky.

Tahra TAH 113 Scherchen Mozart Petits Riens, Flute and Harp Con, EKN
Don't care much for the music.

Tahra TAH 114-5 (2) Abendroth Bruckner 7 and 8
These are the greatest performances of both works.

Tahra TAH 116 Scherchen Dvorak CC (Fournier) BEST REC. OF THE WORK +
Brahms 3
The last two minutes of the Dvorak soars into the empryean like none
other.

Tahra TAH 120 Scherchen Mahler 8 (Columbia rec.)
The work's greatest performance

Tahra TAH 129-31 (3) Abendroth Beethoven 9, VC (Oistrakh), 3+
Don't remember this much.

Tahra TAH 138 Abendroth Strauss Tone Pomes
Dislike the music.

Tahra TAH 139-42 (4) Abendroth Portrait Inédit
Worthy Schumann 1 and Schubert 9

Tahra TAH 143-4 (2) Scherchen Berlioz Les Troyens à Carthage
Don't like the music.

Tahra TAH 145-6 (2) Abendroth Brahms
Most worthy

Tahra TAH 152-3 (2) Scherchen Bi he rth of Symphony
Exactly what it says it is. Important in the development of the symphony
but rather boring today//

Tahra TAH 154 Scherchen Mozart Flute and Harp Con. Syms. 40-1
Huge rarities, but not my favorites

Tahra TAH 185-9 (5) Tribute to Hermann Scherchen
Broadcast performances. Too much is music I am not fond of.

Tahra TAH 192-3 (2) Abendroth w. Ney & Taschner
Elly Ney is worth hearing indeed but I have long been burned out by the
Emperor concerto.

Tahra TAH 199-200 (2) Erdmann, Eduard Pianist-Philosopher
Tahra TAH 218-9 (2) Erdmann Schubert
He had the philosophy of not interpreting the music in any way. Of course
he failed at being completely poker-faced. He plays much too fast. Worth
hearing, though

Tahra TAH 259 Abendroth, Askenase Mozart at Dresden State Tahra TAH 259
Not notable.

Tahra TAH 283-6 (4) Scherchen Ultraphon Recordings, vol. 1
It is most excellent to get these studio recordings, made mostly between
his early recordings for HMV and those for Westminster. That said,
Scherchen came into his own only later in life.

Tahra TAH 338-9 (2) Scherchen Mahler 3 VSO studio 501031
Never released and not the miracle his live recording of ten years later.

Tahra TAH 391-3 + 401-2 + 420-1 (7) Mengelberg Archives inédites
Most worthy live recordings that never got released afaik before (though
friends sent me underground tapes). Best is the 1 3/4 performances of the
Eroica, since Philips used the Telefunken studio.

Tahra TAH 413-6 (4) Scherchen Nixa recordings
These are the co-productions with Westminster and are quite fabulous,
exceeded only by some of the Westminster stereo remakes, where Scherchen
got even more Scherchn-like. Missing is the mono Messiah, one of the great
and perfect performances.

Tahra TAH 422 Scherchen Mahler 5 Philapa Orch. 641030
This is a legendlary underground recording.

In addition, in the PDFs, there are these:
Hardie discography of Mengelberg, the only one that has full take
information.
Mengelberg Discography (Photos in Tahra TAH 401-2 (2))
Mengelberg LP Jacket Covers (Photos in Tahra TAH 401-2 (2))
Mengelberg, La Chasa (Photos in Tahra TAH 401-2 (2))
</My listing of my Tahras>

I continue with my decision to give Biddulph until the end of the year to
get busy and put its collection up for sale as mp3 downloads, if not the
CDs themselves. The second coming of Biddulph did result in a few fresh
transfers, but it did not put its past collection back. The third coming
may never come, and it's time to stop depriving listeners around the world
from hearing so many of my favorite (and I hope your favorite) recordings.

I want to get a discussion going, on rcmr, not by e-mail. If you want to
send me an e-mail and then have me send it to rcmr (say, you don't want
your name identified with your arguments), I shall do so. Try to be
persuasive, not just state a personal value judgment. I am not taking an
opinion poll.

STATISTICS: 54,148-53,139 downloads, or 1009 new downloads last month.
There were 1822 download the previous month. Glad to be of service.

I repeat my by now standard monthly message.

Frank Forman's Uploads of Historical Recordings! Monthly reminder
(2014.12.1)

This is a monthly reminder for those who know about my uploading efforts,
as well as those who are finding out about this for the first time.

COMMENTS ON THE ARTISTS ADDED!

Unless something unexpected comes up, I am done my job. Lots of work, and
I am grateful for the some 48,000 downloads to date. I know of no effort
of making these great old recordings of classical music that it anywhere
comparable to mine. It is my gift to the world.

European copyright law has placed all recordings made up through 1963,
irregardless of whether it was "fixed in sound" for LP or CD after that
date. Since the server is located in Holland, I am not in violation of
American copyright laws, which are a tangle of confusion.

Below is a repeat of what I have uploaded to date. Visit the first folder
first. It will contain instructions about what's what. Basically, there
are:

1. Cassettes of the Columbia and Victor M-sets that Bill Lampe collected
over a long time. (The cassettes that come from Bill are prefixed with an
L. Those from me are prefixed with an F.)
2. Miscellaneous cassettes from many collectors, prefixed with a C.
3. Cassette compilations by artists (prefixed with a C)
4. LP conversions
5. Compact Discs

Indexes to the recordings
http://www.filefactory.com/f/b0ef5dfa848181b9
There are instuctions among these indexes to help you search for
recordings by artists you love.

Abendroth cas AND CDs
Hermann Abendroth, 1883-1956, German conductor
http://www.filefactory.com/f/f835edf60620e15d
When I first listened to him, at the behest of the late Allen Mackler, who
said the best Fourth was Abendroth's, I felt that I was intruding upon
something so very German that I was invading the Germans' privacy. As
Furtwängler is the German conductor for the world, Abendroth is the German
conductor for Germans. The great secret of Abendroth's method, I think, is
his selectively holding a lot for a fraction of a second too long, which
he does with great meaning.

Acoustic Organ Discs  cassettes with zip
http://www.filefactory.com/f/c31becd379064e43
It might come as a surprise that there were any acoustic organ records at
all, since the acoustical process could hardly record low frequency organ
notes. But here is a sample of them. Neither is the music or the organist
outstanding, but the first truly outstanding organist was Helmut Walcha,
whose earliest recordings appeared on late 78s, though in the same
performances afaik as those on early monophonic LPs.

Barylli Quartet with piano LPs
http://www.filefactory.com/f/6f65fe64c37fab38
Their discs are prized collectors' items, but I an enthusiastic only about
those compositions that include a piano. Here are all of them.

Beethoven Loewenguth
Active 1930s-1970s Loewenguth Quartet of Paris.
Contains Middle and Late Quartets
http://www.filefactory.com/f/9b903ded71b95f76
THIS IS THE VERY HEIGHT OF MY ENTIRE COLLECTION. Excellent performances,
with just the right amount of gruffness. Exceptionally wide stereo spread
that sits you in the middle of the quartet, allowing you to fully savor
Beethoven's genius in bouncing melodies from instrument to indstrument.

Brain Dennis and Aubrey horns LPs
Dennis Brain, 1921-1957 in a car accident (English)
Aubrey Brain, his father (English), 1893-1955
http://www.filefactory.com/f/b8bfa4f62f200522

Casals LPs
Pablo Casals, 1876-1973, cello and conductor (Spanish, or more properly
Catalan)
http://www.filefactory.com/f/ca1d603a9080d624
All the Columbia LPs, plus some on other labels, up through 1963 that is.
Too bad I can't include the stereo Brandenburgs, whose big, robust
old-fashioned playing is my vary favorite. Nor can I include my favorite
rehearsal disc, of the same.
Tom Clear said in notes to his cello album that information about Casals
is available at your "nearest drugstore." That was then, for today, just
grab the Wikipedia article.

Coates  cassettes
Albert Coates, Anglo-Russian conductor, 1882 1953
http://www.filefactory.com/f/284789ef06528a32
A great extrovert among conductors. No one has most robustly recorded the
Russians or Wagner.

CD Booklets
http://www.filefactory.com/f/0ef97b5e7fcfb055

Flonzaley Quartet cass
1902-1928
http://www.filefactory.com/f/653008cf04d8d395
String quartet playing has changed more than any other kind of classical
music playing. The early style was ragged and deeply dug into, unlike the
smoothed-out perfectionism that came later. Fortunately, this kind of
playing survived into the recordings era. Outstanding examples are the
Flonzaley Quartet (here), the London, the Bohemian, and the *early*
Budapest (before the Russians replaced the Hungarians).

Gianoli LP
Reine Gianoli, French pianist, 1915-79
http://www.filefactory.com/f/2cd0abae3958d6b0
She is much my favorite lady pianist and plays with bounce and vigor. Her
Mozart and Bach is what I often want when I get an overdoes of Gould.

Harty cassettes
Sir Hamilton Harty, Irish conductor, pianist, and composer 1879-1941
Knighted 1925
http://www.filefactory.com/f/fd8d34a7a1897b0b
He is quite popular with those who collect historical recordings. Though I
have collected them, mostly from Bill Lampe, I can't say that I have ever
really grasped his individuality. They remain popular downloads.

Kapell Victors plus Australian Concerts
William Kapell, American pianist, 1922-1953, died in a plane crash.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/27fb13d776c15197
Whoever said he admired Kapell but did not love him expressed perfectly my
own attitude. He is quite popular with those who collect historical
recordings. Though I have collected them, mostly from Bill Lampe, I can't
say that I have ever really grasped his individuality. They remain popular
downloads.

Krebs  LPs
Helmut Krebs, German tenor, 1913-2007
http://www.filefactory.com/f/909396da35dec52a
My favorite singer. He had a "small voice," whatever that means, and never
performed Wagner afaik. His angelic voice is exactly right for Bach, so
much so that, whenever I listen to a Bach vocal work that includes a solo
tenor part that is sung by someone else, I feel ROBBED. Here are nearly
all his recordings. He also sung during first performances of many modern
works.

Lehmann cassettes
Fritz Lehmann, German conductor, 1904-1956
http://www.filefactory.com/f/03b29bc2d6aaf0f5
While he conducted a number of orchestras, he is best remembered as a DGG
house conductor that re-recorded music on early LPs. Despite his recording
the best imho St. Matthew Passion, Choral Fantasy, German Requiem, and
Capriccio Italien, he is largely forgotten today. I am not sure what is on
these cassettes. Search in other places for more Lehmann.

Mengelberg cass
Willem Mengelberg, Dutch conductor, 1871-1971
My favorite conductor and an extravert.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/44eb80876ed8046e

M-Sets
These M-set represent how most American heard classical music during the
78 rpm days. There were over 2500 of them on Columbia and Victor. I have
uploeaded a majority of them. They constitute the core of my offerings.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/554b11e8cd9fe5c6

OoP Hist. CDs
Out of Print Historical CDs.
I have refrained from uploading CDs from small active labels, to not
discourage them from continuing their good work. I have also refrained
from uploading Gould, Walcha, the Kempff Beethven sonata cycles, and the
Backhaus stereo Beethoven cycle for the same reason.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/e506defe41134d59

Other Cassettes
These are non-M sets from my own collection
http://www.filefactory.com/f/e2b09b29f8c29acf

Other Mono LPs
These are LPs that are not among the artist collection listed here.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/45bbac97e080cdee

Other Stereo LP to mp3
There are stereo LPs that are not among the artist collection listed here.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/552cc040b44b49d1

Rodzinski cassettes
Artur Rodzinski, Polish conductor, 1892-1958
http://www.filefactory.com/f/3a51c433aef61fbb
He is quite popular with those who collect historical recordings. Though I
have collected them, mostly from Bill Lampe, I can't say that I have ever
really grasped his individuality. They remain popular downloads.

Rybar LPs
Peter Rybar, Czech violinist, 1913-2002
http://www.filefactory.com/f/8bc7a61a20683ae0
A vigorous performer, whose interpretations are highly italicized, he is a
favorite of those who collect old recordings. Here are most of them. His
recording of the Shreck transciption of Bach's fifth klavier concerto I
find is even more incisive than Szigeti's. His recorded repertoire is
wide. I commend esp. his recording of Italian Baroque composers.

Scherchen LPs in mp3
Hermann Scherchen, German conductor, 1891-1966
http://www.filefactory.com/f/5ceace722ff1720c
A great extrovert, whose performances got more markedly inflected as he
got older. Mr. Mencken, when asked to update his obituary for the
Baltimore Sun, where he worked, said, "Just add, 'As he got older, he got
worse.'" But I find Scherchen's stereo remakes to be better, more
characteristic of him, with the exception of the Messiah and the Mozart
Requiem, which I find rather ponderous. I call attention to the stereo
remake of the Eroica, which whips through the music so fast you wonder
whether the orchestra loses itself in the process. Yet when the movement
is over and you are exhausted, you remain moved. Better wait a few minutes
before going on with the funeral march.

Scherchen LPs in WAV
Hermann Scherchen, German conductor, 1891-1966
http://www.filefactory.com/f/e144f8d31b8590e7

Scherchen Lugano Cycle
Hermann Scherchen, German conductor, 1891-1966
Contains the Beethoven symphonies in performance and rehearsal excepts of
many movements.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/4a0421ccbf5a62bf
Scherchen at his best, or at his worst? A whipsaw first movement of the
Seventh that somehow manages to sweep you into it, unlike Albert Coates's
two recordings (acoustic and electric) of the first movement of the
Jupiter.

Scherchen WAV
Hermann Scherchen, German conductor, 1891-1966
In general, I did not make many WAV files, because I did not realize there
would be much of a demand for them. These are a good selection, but still
not all Scherchens are here.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/e144f8d31b8590e7

Silverman
Robert Silverman, Canadian pianist, born 1938.
With his permission I have uploaded Beethoven Sonatas 18 and 28, along
with his excellent liner notes, from his Beethoven cycle. Also with his
permission, I have uploaded a live Mozart sonata cycle, given at the house
of his friend and philosopher, Jan Narveson. I find his seriousness and
thoughtfulness to make him the best living pianist and cannot fathom why
he is little known outside Canada. Please visit his site,
http://www.robertsilverman.ca
http://www.filefactory.com/f/5d3d7ccf9a0b6ed4

Spalding LPs
American violinist, 1888-1953. First American musician to gain
international renown. Complete LPs
http://www.filefactory.com/f/e80fa589cbc1790d
Saying any recording beats Szigeti's is, for me, making the highest
praise. But his 78s of the Brahms Second Sonata beats Szigeti's and
his"Tartini's" Devil's Trill, though not recorded by Szigeti, is the best
of that music. (Alas, you won't find them in this folder but elsewhere.)

Stock cass
Dr. Frederick Stock, 1872-1972
http://www.filefactory.com/f/dee173966a8cbae0
He is quite popular with those who collect historical recordings. Though I
have collected them, mostly from Bill Lampe, I can't say that I have ever
really grasped his individuality. They remain popular downloads.

Szigeti Am Saloons
Joseph Szigeti, Hungarian violinist, 1892-1973
These are all the fillers and single discs recorded in America
http://www.filefactory.com/f/81186ee2d67eab82
Several of these delights never came out on LPs. The most elusive is
Cowell's "How Old Is Song?", which the late Don Hodgman was able to
finally locate and get me a tape of.

Szigeti LPs
Joseph Szigeti, Hungarian violinist, 1892-1973
My favorite clarinetist
Complete early Columbia LPs and the early Mercury stereo LPs.
Incisive. Intellectual. Inflected. His is much my favorite violinist.

Tahra CDs


Thibaud
Jacques Thibaud, French violinist, 1880-1953, in a plane crash
http://www.filefactory.com/f/7b4f23c2ea9e3a6d
These are nearly all his recordings.
B.H. Haggin speaking of "the powerful tone and phrasing playing of Casals
that is in striking contrast with the elegance of Thibaud and the intimate
warmth of Corot" is as an astute observation of musicians as any I have
read. All of their playing together in the greatest of all trios, as well
as any pairing of two of them, is there.

Weingartner acousticals
Felix Weingartner, German conductor, 1863-1942
This is almost certainly the most complete set. It is one of the most
popular of my downloads. In general, though, I never did become a big
Weingartner fan. Surprisingly, perhaps, I find his early electric of the
Fantastic Symphony to be my favorite.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/d3cafa296cc18a34

Wlach LPs
Leopold Wlach, clarinet, 1902-56
My favorite clarinetist, whose sheer power can be devasting, esp. the
Brahms Clarinet Quintet, which I regard as the swan song of Western
Civilization.
http://www.filefactory.com/f/643eb663ca9c5bca

Paul

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Dec 2, 2014, 3:27:54 PM12/2/14
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So where are these files exactly? Your link goes to a moribund Biddulph page.

Frank Forman

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Dec 16, 2014, 3:58:52 PM12/16/14
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hiker_rs

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Dec 17, 2014, 10:35:24 AM12/17/14
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wade

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Dec 17, 2014, 11:00:46 AM12/17/14
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the recordings themselves are fairly lo-fi anyway, but I agree, I wish he worked in flacs or mp3-320s. Thanks for what you provided, Frank.

jserr...@gmail.com

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Dec 17, 2014, 1:27:12 PM12/17/14
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Thanks very much for these interesting recordings. Were Tahra TAH 145-6 Abendroth Brahms and Tahra TAH 338-9 Scherchen Mahler 3 VSO studio 501031 included in the 4 archives?

Frank Forman

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Feb 2, 2015, 2:32:49 PM2/2/15
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I apologize and will gladly send a refund.

Frank

hiker_rs

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Feb 2, 2015, 5:11:55 PM2/2/15
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On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 1:32:49 PM UTC-6, Frank Forman wrote:

> > Frank's transfers are almost all at a low bit rate (128 kbps). For some this may be a deal breaker.
>
> I apologize and will gladly send a refund.

No need for the refund or the sarcasm, Frank.

For some people the bit rate is an issue - that's better to know before they try one of your large downloads. I imagine it saves you money, too, if they don't waste a download on something they may not want.

BTW, good to see that Szigeti is still your favorite clarinetist. :))

weary flake

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Feb 3, 2015, 12:59:00 PM2/3/15
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>> Frank's transfers are almost all at a low bit rate (128 kbps). For some
>> this may be a deal breaker.

This is critical information, and should be
included in every post he makes.

>
> the recordings themselves are fairly lo-fi anyway,

An error to say that data compression is OK with
lo-fi recordings: adding mp3 or other lossy
compression to noisy recordings is particularly
bad, as the compression formats aren't designed
to deal with surface noise, but clean noiseless
sounds like rap music. It is a fact that lo-fi
recordings require higher bit rates, and the worst
thing possible is to apply lossy compression to
historical recordings.


Lionel Tacchini

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Feb 3, 2015, 1:31:10 PM2/3/15
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On 03.02.2015 18:58, weary flake wrote:
> clean noiseless sounds like rap music

I really enjoy good sarcasm.

--
Lionel Tacchini

arri bachrach

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Feb 3, 2015, 2:26:28 PM2/3/15
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suspect Frank was thinking of Benny Goodman who recorded with Szigeti....

AB

Bob Harper

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Feb 3, 2015, 2:30:59 PM2/3/15
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On 2/3/15, 10:31 AM, Lionel Tacchini wrote:
> On 03.02.2015 18:58, weary flake wrote:
>> clean noiseless sounds like rap music
>
> I really enjoy good sarcasm.
>
Yeah, shouldn't that be soundless noise?

Bob Harper

hiker_rs

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Feb 3, 2015, 4:42:46 PM2/3/15
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On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 1:30:59 PM UTC-6, Bob Harper wrote:

> Yeah, shouldn't that be soundless noise?

They're just liberating the audio from the music. :)

dar...@googlemail.com

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Apr 10, 2019, 4:02:47 PM4/10/19
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I was lookin for the Scherchen Ultraphon Recordings, vol. 1, found here and the link is dead! The Scherchen is so hard to find! Please oh please relink!

Tassilo

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Apr 10, 2019, 11:18:16 PM4/10/19
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Tahra TAH 143-4 (2) Scherchen Berlioz Les Troyens à Carthage

This is by far one of the most interesting recordings of Berlioz’s music in existence. Comparing Scherchen’s recording of Les troyens à Carthage (the last three acts of the unabridged Les troyens) to the Davis, Dutoit, and Nelson studio recordings of Troyens or to the Met broadcast with Kubelik or to the Met DVD with Troyanos, Norman, Domingo, and Levine is to appreciate just how much more “French” Scherchen’s approach (or the approach of his early 50’s French forces) was, to what extent an international style of operatic performance has eradicated the home-grown original. Troyens, as Berlioz was literally the first to admit, is a late product of the 18th-century neoclassical tradition inaugurated by Gluck and continued by Méhul, Cherubini, Spontini et al. As he wrote in a letter to the Princess Carolyn Sayn-Wittgenstein, his patron and Liszt’s mistress, “If Gluck came back to earth and heard [Troyens], he would say ‘Behold, my son.’” Listening to Scherchen’s protagonists approach to music and text makes me think of old Comédie-Française recordings of classical French theatre, where the passion issues through the dignity of an earnest rhetorical formality (as with Gluck). The first time I heard this recording provided an illuminating jolt to my understanding of reality.

-Tassilo
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