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Marcelle Meyer: Complete Studio Recordings 1925 - 1957

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John Thomas

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Jun 1, 2015, 8:45:06 PM6/1/15
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I just chanced on this http://amzn.to/1FngMKI and don't recall having seen any discussion here about the release. $25.88 for 17 CD's is unbeatable but it's not clear what the issuing label is or the contents are. Does anyone have this?

John Wiser

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Jun 1, 2015, 9:09:42 PM6/1/15
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"John Thomas" <abras...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just chanced on this http://amzn.to/1FngMKI and don't recall having seen any discussion here
>about the release. $25.88 for 17 CD's is unbeatable but it's not clear what the issuing label is or
>the contents are. Does anyone have this?
>

Can it be anything but a knockoff or reissue of this?
http://www.amazon.com/Ses-Enregistrements-1925-1957-Marcelle-recordings/dp/B000KRMWLS

jdw

John Thomas

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Jun 1, 2015, 9:37:34 PM6/1/15
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It could be the rumored Documents reissue of that set - the number of CD's matches. If so, it's a godsend since I missed buying the Enregistrements
when it first appeared. There seems to be quite a number of MM reissues floating around Amazon right now.

Frank Berger

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Jun 1, 2015, 10:07:31 PM6/1/15
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Very likely, since it says so on the back cover. Doesn't
say anything there about licensing, though.

John Thomas

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Jun 1, 2015, 10:26:56 PM6/1/15
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Yes, I didn't notice that little image there. But as for licensing the recent spate of other MM reissues suggests that French copyright has expired. Her original recordings are not covered under US copyright laws.

Frank Berger

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Jun 1, 2015, 11:15:53 PM6/1/15
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Have you followed the recent discussion about that? Are you
sure?

John Thomas

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Jun 1, 2015, 11:39:03 PM6/1/15
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I rarely follow discussions here any more. But if you'll give me a link, date or topic title I'll steel myself against the possibility of being wrong and read it.

Frank Berger

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Jun 2, 2015, 12:46:17 AM6/2/15
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Well this seems to indicate the EMI set would be protected
in the U.S. under state common law. But I ain't no lawyer.

http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm

Steve de Mena

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Jun 2, 2015, 11:22:43 AM6/2/15
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The order of this CD is the exact same as the EMI set, which looks to
me as they simply copied the CDs.

If EMI remastered the set back in 2007 wouldn't those remasterings be
copyrighted?

Steve

weary flake

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Jun 2, 2015, 11:47:04 AM6/2/15
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Of course. The Documents would be a great reissue if it
is an actual reissue of the EMI box. But it's not clear
exactly what it is; if the Documents (also known as TIM,
History, Maestro, Membran, etc.,) box is simply 17 CDs of
LP and shellac rips that they did themselves it would likely
to be horrible, as Membran releases of old recordings are
nightmares of trashy overprocessing, fitting in with the
worst of Doremi, Urania, etc.


Steve de Mena

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Jun 2, 2015, 12:54:08 PM6/2/15
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I think it's pretty clear what it is, as the composers on each CD
match exactly CD for CD the contents of the EMI set

Steve

MiNe109

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Jun 2, 2015, 2:54:03 PM6/2/15
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Another source (165 tracks):

Piano Performances 1925-1957 by Marcelle Meyer on Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/album/4IOMBVBPXQf2zAiBuuZUX6

I checked a few: not much hiss and some questionable eq choices.

Stephen

Frank Berger

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Jun 2, 2015, 2:58:42 PM6/2/15
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Assuming it is the EMI set, we really don't know if it is
licensed from EMI. Of course even if it says it is, that
could be a lie. I have one set (can't recall what it is
right now) that says it's licensed but it isn't.

Frank Berger

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Jun 2, 2015, 3:08:24 PM6/2/15
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Which may or not characterize the EMI set from which it was
stolen.

Steve de Mena

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Jun 2, 2015, 10:09:38 PM6/2/15
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There's 368 tracks in the EMI set. Only 165 on this Spotify compilation.

Steve

weary flake

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Jun 3, 2015, 10:14:31 AM6/3/15
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If it is an exact copy of the EMI set that would
be great, whether licensed or stolen. But if it's
Membran's or whatever's own transfers it would be
a very different product to EMI's box set, and I
have no doubt the Documents would have much
inferior sound quality compared to EMI's.

This is a case where a reviewer, some reviewer, could
compare both box sets, and directly determine what
differences there are, if any. But I'm not going to
buy both.

tomdeacon

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Jun 4, 2015, 9:03:55 PM6/4/15
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Obviously a knock-off which sells for 1/10th of the going price for the
original French EMI version.

As I own all the original EMI Lps, the 3 (?) Introuvables sets, the
Rarisdimes set, and the big EMI box, I think I'll pass. Enough is enough!
More is truly vulgar.

TD

music lover

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Feb 24, 2017, 7:44:22 PM2/24/17
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On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 6:03:55 PM UTC-7, tomdeacon wrote:
> John Thomas <abras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just chanced on this http://amzn.to/1FngMKI and don't recall having
> > seen any discussion here about the release. $25.88 for 17 CD's is
> > unbeatable but it's not clear what the issuing label is or the contents
> > are. Does anyone have this?
>

Anyone ever hear the Documents reissue and compare with the EMI original box set?

Thanks

Frank Berger

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Feb 25, 2017, 2:13:29 PM2/25/17
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Probably a direct copy of the 17 CD EMI set. Whether
licensed, ripped-off or remastered, I don't know.

gggg gggg

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On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:45:06 PM UTC-7, abras...@gmail.com wrote:
> I just chanced on this http://amzn.to/1FngMKI and don't recall having seen any discussion here about the release. $25.88 for 17 CD's is unbeatable but it's not clear what the issuing label is or the contents are. Does anyone have this?

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