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Samir Golescu

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Dec 26, 2001, 8:11:11 PM12/26/01
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Not really a musical subject, but surely a great artistic loss. I've never
met somebody to hate/dislike Hawthorne's acting and I am profoundly
jealous on my friends who've seen recently his King Lear, on stage.

In his best known part -- as the high-rank, cunning, cynical, snobish
civil servant Sir Humphrey -- I remember him explaining what state
subsidies are for: <<subsidy is for art, for culture. It is not to be
given to what the people want!>>

What about music?
<<This is a British democracy. British democracy recognises that you need
a system to protect the important things of life, and keep them out of the
hands of the barbarians. Things like the Opera, Radio BBC Three, the
countryside, the law, the Universities....... Both of them.>>


[speaking on the necessity that the state maintains the symbols of British
culture alive]:

<<do you want the lake district turned into a gigantic caravan site,
the National Theatre into a carpet sale warehouse, the Royal Opera House
into a bingo hall??!

"Well, it looks like one actually."

"We gave the architect a knighthood precisely so that nobody would ever
say that!">>

Blessed be his soul in proportion to how much he delighted people all over
the world.

regards,
SG

____________

<<Les Americaines ont un temperament vindicatif comme tous les peuples
serieux et reflechis. Ils n'oublient presque jamais une offense; mail il
n'est point facile de les offenser, et leur ressentiment est aussi
lent a s'allumer qu'a s'eteindre.>>

Alexis de Toqueville -- "La democratie en Amerique" (1840)

[Americans have a retaliatory temperament like all serious, reflective
nations. Almost never do they forget an offense, but it is not a light
affair to offend them, as their indignant ill will shall be as slow in
cooling down as it was in taking off -- SG]

Margaret Mikulska

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Dec 27, 2001, 12:26:24 AM12/27/01
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Oh no, that's too sad. He was really, really marvelous.

-M

John Wilson

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Dec 27, 2001, 9:23:36 AM12/27/01
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Thanks for posting this Samir. I had not heard of Sir Nigel's death
and am greatly sadden. I loved him not only in Yes Minister and Yes
Prime Minister but also as the earnest Walter Monkton in Edward and
Mrs. Simpson.

John

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Matthew B. Tepper

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Dec 27, 2001, 3:59:19 PM12/27/01
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symbi...@yahoo.com (MrT) wrote in
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> A great loss. Yet another fabulous actor gone. These notices are on topic
> because the artistic community is shrinking faster than ever. Classical
> music, the theatre, literature, jazz, we need to stick together.

Or else we will certainly all get stuck separately.

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mcc

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Dec 27, 2001, 7:53:56 PM12/27/01
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For some of the very best examples of Hawthorne at his finest, I
highly recommend the wonderful British series (8 episodes perhaps?) of
Mapp and Lucia (from the E.F.Benson series), with the also wonderful
Geraldine McEwan and Prunella Scales... and also the old Barchester
Towers series...

M. C. Culver

Lena

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Dec 27, 2001, 8:12:53 PM12/27/01
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Margaret Mikulska <miku...@silvertone.princeton.edu> wrote in message news:<3C2AAFDC...@silvertone.princeton.edu>...

> Oh no, that's too sad. He was really, really marvelous.
>
> -M
>
> Samir Golescu wrote:

...

> > In his best known part -- as the high-rank, cunning, cynical, snobish
> > civil servant Sir Humphrey

Sir Humphrey is an utterly delightful entity, and Hawthorne was a wonderful
actor.

(Actually, the entire "Yes, Minister" series is delightful; and I suppose
some credit must also go to the writers, whoever they are.)

Lena

Matthew B. Tepper

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Dec 27, 2001, 10:16:29 PM12/27/01
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len...@yahoo.com (Lena) wrote in
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Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn (the latter of whom appeared in John Cleese's
"Romance with a Double Bass", and therefore marginally close to on-topic).

Neil

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Dec 29, 2001, 1:11:33 PM12/29/01
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:11:11 -0600, Samir Golescu <gol...@uiuc.edu> wrote:

>
>Blessed be his soul in proportion to how much he delighted people all over
>the world.

indeed. As you can imagine he was much loved in this country and his death is
very sad news especially at such a relatively young age. And as someone on the
TV remarked, one of those very special English character actors.

yes Minister was one of the best television comedies of all time. So perfectly
acted with scripts honed to perfection. Mrs Thatcher's favourite TV show !

He was very good in Mapp and Lucia too - EF Benson camp with a star cast,
himself and prunnella scales (the former Mrs Sybil Fawlty) included.

Jeffrey Smith

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Dec 29, 2001, 1:51:54 PM12/29/01
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On 28 Dec 2001 03:16:29 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net>
wrote:

>len...@yahoo.com (Lena) wrote in
>news:6b33de45.01122...@posting.google.com:
>
>> Margaret Mikulska <miku...@silvertone.princeton.edu> wrote in message
>> news:<3C2AAFDC...@silvertone.princeton.edu>...
>>
>>> Oh no, that's too sad. He was really, really marvelous.
>>>
>>> -M
>>>
>>> Samir Golescu wrote: ...
>>
>>> > In his best known part -- as the high-rank, cunning, cynical,
>>> > snobish civil servant Sir Humphrey
>>
>> Sir Humphrey is an utterly delightful entity, and Hawthorne was a
>> wonderful actor.
>>
>> (Actually, the entire "Yes, Minister" series is delightful; and I
>> suppose some credit must also go to the writers, whoever they are.)
>
>Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn (the latter of whom appeared in John Cleese's
>"Romance with a Double Bass", and therefore marginally close to on-topic).

Antony Jay was a speechwriter for John Major, while he was Prime
Minister.

Jeffrey Smith.

Paul Kintzele

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Dec 31, 2001, 2:18:56 AM12/31/01
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John Wilson wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting this Samir. I had not heard of Sir Nigel's death
> and am greatly sadden. I loved him not only in Yes Minister and Yes
> Prime Minister but also as the earnest Walter Monkton in Edward and
> Mrs. Simpson.

He also played a wonderful Malvolio in a superb recent film version of
Twelfth Night.

Paul

Sudhir Kadkade

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Dec 31, 2001, 5:02:12 PM12/31/01
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Did someone already comment on his role as King George in
that wonderful movie - The Madness of King George. Didn't
he win a bunch of awards for that role?

Regards,
Sudhir

Paul Kintzele wrote in message <3C301160...@english.upenn.edu>...

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