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coppinsuk
Jan 8, 2018, 8:36:08 AM1/8/18
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Just posted this to my most favoured download site "Diabolus in Musica" (located in VietNam), "From Miles to Mozart" and "Meeting in Music" - thought it might be worth posting to your site for comment and suggestions..........
"....just about to finish my trawl through my collection of 5,000 vinyl LPs – mostly classical. Is there anyone out there, less than 45 years old, who might like to take over the collection from me? No lists, no mailing – must collect."
I've already contacted universities, colleges, schools of music - no interest whatsoever.
There apparently is a very "niche" market for vinyl collection, but in my experience it seems to be within the popular music sphere.
Any thoughts about where else to post this message? I would ideally like a much younger person (hence under 45 years old) to have the opportunity of owning and appreciating all the music that I have collected over a lifetime - do not want it to go into an rubbish tip when they clear my house!!
Not sure if it is safe to include a contact email or phone number - as there are so many crazy people out there (and occasionally on this blog also).
Hope to receive some constructive and helpful comments.
Thanks in anticipation.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
"....just about to finish my trawl through my collection of 5,000 vinyl LPs – mostly classical. Is there anyone out there, less than 45 years old, who might like to take over the collection from me? No lists, no mailing – must collect."
I've already contacted universities, colleges, schools of music - no interest whatsoever.
There apparently is a very "niche" market for vinyl collection, but in my experience it seems to be within the popular music sphere.
Any thoughts about where else to post this message? I would ideally like a much younger person (hence under 45 years old) to have the opportunity of owning and appreciating all the music that I have collected over a lifetime - do not want it to go into an rubbish tip when they clear my house!!
Not sure if it is safe to include a contact email or phone number - as there are so many crazy people out there (and occasionally on this blog also).
Hope to receive some constructive and helpful comments.
Thanks in anticipation.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
mswd...@gmail.com
Jan 8, 2018, 9:29:25 AM1/8/18
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Yep- you nailed it. Thre's no place for sentiment in big classical LP collection culling.
I fit your profile quite well, but I have no space at all and anticipate inheriting a large collection at some point and being able to absorb only 5% of it. (I'm not geographically an option anyway.) And it won't be tool long before the same disinterest applies to CD collections.
Do let us know if you find someone.
I fit your profile quite well, but I have no space at all and anticipate inheriting a large collection at some point and being able to absorb only 5% of it. (I'm not geographically an option anyway.) And it won't be tool long before the same disinterest applies to CD collections.
Do let us know if you find someone.
coppinsuk
Jan 8, 2018, 9:43:24 AM1/8/18
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Thanks for your empathy.
All the very best.
Cheers,
Douglas(UK)
All the very best.
Cheers,
Douglas(UK)
Jerry
Jan 8, 2018, 10:00:57 AM1/8/18
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Watson Records, in...@watsonrecords.co.uk
UK Classical Archives, 01803 606162
Revolutions, 01903 209553
Classical Music Exchange, 020 7792 5847
esmetro...@btinternet.com
Yarborough House, 01588 638318
We'd be interested in learning how you fare.
Good Luck,
Jerry
coppinsuk
Jan 8, 2018, 10:42:18 AM1/8/18
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Thank you Jerry.
I know Yarborough House in Bishop's Castle (much of the collection came from here!), very near me in Shropshire - not been there for a few years now - not sure if they still take vinyl.
But I was more interested in donating the collection to a keen music lover.
Selling to a dealer will be so much hassle, me thinks - but still might consider it, if hassle free.
I take the Gramophone so I have the contact details.
Thanks for your very quick response.
Already had one expression of interest from a young composer in Holland - we'll see how this interest develops.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
I know Yarborough House in Bishop's Castle (much of the collection came from here!), very near me in Shropshire - not been there for a few years now - not sure if they still take vinyl.
But I was more interested in donating the collection to a keen music lover.
Selling to a dealer will be so much hassle, me thinks - but still might consider it, if hassle free.
I take the Gramophone so I have the contact details.
Thanks for your very quick response.
Already had one expression of interest from a young composer in Holland - we'll see how this interest develops.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
Mr. Mike
Jan 8, 2018, 10:51:40 AM1/8/18
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You are quite right about vinyl being a niche market (a >very< niche
market, despite all those reports that vinyl is making a big
"resurgence") and classical vinyl is a niche market within a niche
market.
There are stores which deal in classical LPs, but they are few and far
between, and the whole issue of taking your stuff there and letting
someone "value" them (usually not while you wait) is just a huge PITA.
Where I live (Vancouver), there is one such store, but it is located
downtown and very inconvenient to get to, especially if you have heavy
amounts of records. If you try to interest rock 'n' roll record stores
about taking classical LPs, they are typically very clueless and/or
their offers are very cheap.
A few years ago I was attempting to get rid of the remains of
collections which friends had given me plus some of my own classical
and other records. Trying to sell these LPs on Craigslist produced
responses like "I'll give you 25 cents each for them if there are no
scratches." (I had already gotten rid of most of my friends' records
prior to this and had exhausted the interest of all of the local
classical-collecting psychos.) These LPs were in very good or better
condition, "the product of a lifetime of collecting," so these
responses were just insulting, it was like someone said bad things
about my children.
Not wanting to take these LPs to local thrift stores (where they would
probably be treated very badly -- as if I should really care about
this), I put the following ad on Craigslist (feel free to copy and
modify):
"Free LP records, approximately 300, majority are classical. These
come from four different collections, including my own. There are LPs
from many different countries -- Japan, Germany, UK, Czechoslovakia,
etc. as well as USA and Canada -- and there are many different genres
-- concertos, symphonies, vocal music, operas, etc. There are also
some non-classical records -- easy listening, jazz, soundtracks. The
vast majority of these LPs are in very good or better condition. There
are some which are not "perfect," but those are usually collectors'
items. The majority of the records have been cared for VERY WELL.
"So here is the catch: You must take ALL of the records, no picking
and choosing. These records must be picked up today, the sooner the
better. Sorry, I cannot hold them for you."'
Not surprisingly, my mailbox was soon flooded with e-mails about this.
I contacted some young woman who came over with her small car and
picked them all up. She said that her boyfriend was "really into
vinyl." I told her, "You have come to the right place."
End of story!
market, despite all those reports that vinyl is making a big
"resurgence") and classical vinyl is a niche market within a niche
market.
There are stores which deal in classical LPs, but they are few and far
between, and the whole issue of taking your stuff there and letting
someone "value" them (usually not while you wait) is just a huge PITA.
Where I live (Vancouver), there is one such store, but it is located
downtown and very inconvenient to get to, especially if you have heavy
amounts of records. If you try to interest rock 'n' roll record stores
about taking classical LPs, they are typically very clueless and/or
their offers are very cheap.
A few years ago I was attempting to get rid of the remains of
collections which friends had given me plus some of my own classical
and other records. Trying to sell these LPs on Craigslist produced
responses like "I'll give you 25 cents each for them if there are no
scratches." (I had already gotten rid of most of my friends' records
prior to this and had exhausted the interest of all of the local
classical-collecting psychos.) These LPs were in very good or better
condition, "the product of a lifetime of collecting," so these
responses were just insulting, it was like someone said bad things
about my children.
Not wanting to take these LPs to local thrift stores (where they would
probably be treated very badly -- as if I should really care about
this), I put the following ad on Craigslist (feel free to copy and
modify):
"Free LP records, approximately 300, majority are classical. These
come from four different collections, including my own. There are LPs
from many different countries -- Japan, Germany, UK, Czechoslovakia,
etc. as well as USA and Canada -- and there are many different genres
-- concertos, symphonies, vocal music, operas, etc. There are also
some non-classical records -- easy listening, jazz, soundtracks. The
vast majority of these LPs are in very good or better condition. There
are some which are not "perfect," but those are usually collectors'
items. The majority of the records have been cared for VERY WELL.
"So here is the catch: You must take ALL of the records, no picking
and choosing. These records must be picked up today, the sooner the
better. Sorry, I cannot hold them for you."'
Not surprisingly, my mailbox was soon flooded with e-mails about this.
I contacted some young woman who came over with her small car and
picked them all up. She said that her boyfriend was "really into
vinyl." I told her, "You have come to the right place."
End of story!
coppinsuk
Jan 8, 2018, 11:03:03 AM1/8/18
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You confirm only what I suspected.
Thanks for taking the trouble to reply - very much appreciate it.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
Thanks for taking the trouble to reply - very much appreciate it.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
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coppinsuk
Jan 8, 2018, 11:39:29 AM1/8/18
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Thanks for that???????
On Monday, 8 January 2018 16:26:29 UTC, themusicparlour wrote:
> Glad you didn't post in my Select neighbourhood..."Miles to Salop" wouldn't want, either!
> Parcel some out amongst Charidee Shoppes (local one prices crap WRC @ £19.99)...fell like Vultures on Billy Graham/'Tennessee' Ernie Ford's, once..
> Leave some on the kerb (don't get fined for fly-tipping) as suspect yours, irrespective of 'artistic merit' are simply not wanted.
> Stick some in an Auction Rooms (don't expect more than £30 for <400).
> Drag them to Gramex (give the old cove A Seizure) - try Musak & Cannabis Xchange - get 1penny each..10pee if they're worth 100quid LOL..
>
> There's still a market on eBay - see Poireau120: then get a Spanish mate to constantly up-bid..
>
> Oh, What A Game..
On Monday, 8 January 2018 16:26:29 UTC, themusicparlour wrote:
> Glad you didn't post in my Select neighbourhood..."Miles to Salop" wouldn't want, either!
> Parcel some out amongst Charidee Shoppes (local one prices crap WRC @ £19.99)...fell like Vultures on Billy Graham/'Tennessee' Ernie Ford's, once..
> Leave some on the kerb (don't get fined for fly-tipping) as suspect yours, irrespective of 'artistic merit' are simply not wanted.
> Stick some in an Auction Rooms (don't expect more than £30 for <400).
> Drag them to Gramex (give the old cove A Seizure) - try Musak & Cannabis Xchange - get 1penny each..10pee if they're worth 100quid LOL..
>
> There's still a market on eBay - see Poireau120: then get a Spanish mate to constantly up-bid..
>
> Oh, What A Game..
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wanwan
Jan 9, 2018, 1:13:24 AM1/9/18
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Eric
coppinsuk
Jan 9, 2018, 6:49:13 AM1/9/18
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Thank you for your comments.
No serious expressions of interest in "my collection" so far.
Do not want the hassle of contacting dealers, charity shops, ebay, etc to sell the LPs piecemeal.
Thought I would be doing someone a favour by offering the collection - especially to the supposed "new upcoming vinyl generation"! Do not want them to become frisbees.
I'll leave instructions in my will for the "executors" to contact local 2nd hand dealer and Oxfam to dispose of them all.
They have become a millstone around my neck - but I still love seeing them nicely arranged on shelves around my rooms. So many happy memories.
But I do like "minimalism" and it would be great to regain my house again.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
O
Jan 9, 2018, 9:06:34 AM1/9/18
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In article <f606c2c5-e8e1-435c...@googlegroups.com>,
Accepting the donation also requires a not insignificant responsibility
not only to pick up and move the collection, but for future storage and
maintenance.
especially those who are dealing with grief. It took my wife six
months for her and her sister to remove everything from her mother's
home, and it was very difficult and trying for her. I'm personally
digitizing and disposing of music, books and records that I own such
that there isn't a lot of material for others, who will of necessity
throw it out anyway.
away huge chunks of what you previously thought you couldn't dispose
of.
-Owen
coppinsuk <copp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> No serious expressions of interest in "my collection" so far.
>
> Do not want the hassle of contacting dealers, charity shops, ebay, etc to
> sell the LPs piecemeal.
>
> Thought I would be doing someone a favour by offering the collection -
> especially to the supposed "new upcoming vinyl generation"! Do not want them
> to become frisbees.
Sometimes things you own somehow start to own you.
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> No serious expressions of interest in "my collection" so far.
>
> Do not want the hassle of contacting dealers, charity shops, ebay, etc to
> sell the LPs piecemeal.
>
> Thought I would be doing someone a favour by offering the collection -
> especially to the supposed "new upcoming vinyl generation"! Do not want them
> to become frisbees.
Accepting the donation also requires a not insignificant responsibility
not only to pick up and move the collection, but for future storage and
maintenance.
>
> I'll leave instructions in my will for the "executors" to contact local 2nd
> hand dealer and Oxfam to dispose of them all.
Cleaning out someone's home who has passed on is a difficult burden,
> I'll leave instructions in my will for the "executors" to contact local 2nd
> hand dealer and Oxfam to dispose of them all.
especially those who are dealing with grief. It took my wife six
months for her and her sister to remove everything from her mother's
home, and it was very difficult and trying for her. I'm personally
digitizing and disposing of music, books and records that I own such
that there isn't a lot of material for others, who will of necessity
throw it out anyway.
>
> They have become a millstone around my neck - but I still love seeing them
> nicely arranged on shelves around my rooms. So many happy memories.
>
> But I do like "minimalism" and it would be great to regain my house again.
>
It sometimes becomes a great relief to watch the garbage collector take
> They have become a millstone around my neck - but I still love seeing them
> nicely arranged on shelves around my rooms. So many happy memories.
>
> But I do like "minimalism" and it would be great to regain my house again.
>
away huge chunks of what you previously thought you couldn't dispose
of.
-Owen
coppinsuk
Jan 9, 2018, 10:06:48 AM1/9/18
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Thanks - you have certainly raised a number of issues for me to mull over.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
On Monday, 8 January 2018 13:36:08 UTC, coppinsuk wrote:
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
On Monday, 8 January 2018 13:36:08 UTC, coppinsuk wrote:
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weary flake
Jan 9, 2018, 2:31:44 PM1/9/18
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On 2018-01-09 11:49:08 +0000, coppinsuk said:
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> No serious expressions of interest in "my collection" so far.
There is no description of the content of the collection,
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> No serious expressions of interest in "my collection" so far.
so presumably there is nothing of interest.
I'm reminded of all those "vinyl is worthless" and "CDs are
worthless" posts over the years, those statements invariably
exclude any description or lists of titles, and write as if
records and CDs all have identical value and are some sort of
commodity that can be boiled down and extracted for their
mineral value.
>
> Do not want the hassle of contacting dealers, charity shops, ebay, etc
> to sell the LPs piecemeal.
>
> Thought I would be doing someone a favour by offering the collection -
> especially to the supposed "new upcoming vinyl generation"! Do not want
> them to become frisbees.
>
> I'll leave instructions in my will for the "executors" to contact local
> 2nd hand dealer and Oxfam to dispose of them all.
Alan Dawes
Jan 10, 2018, 7:47:18 AM1/10/18
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> No serious expressions of interest in "my collection" so far.
> Do not want the hassle of contacting dealers, charity shops, ebay, etc
> to sell the LPs piecemeal.
> Thought I would be doing someone a favour by offering the collection -
> especially to the supposed "new upcoming vinyl generation"! Do not want
> them to become frisbees.
Have you tried your local freecycle / Freegle network? eg:
> Do not want the hassle of contacting dealers, charity shops, ebay, etc
> to sell the LPs piecemeal.
> Thought I would be doing someone a favour by offering the collection -
> especially to the supposed "new upcoming vinyl generation"! Do not want
> them to become frisbees.
https://www.freecycle.org/
We found that our local Ilford-freecycle works very well.
For when nostalgia sets in, it is sensible to photograph all the covers
before getting rid of the LPs.
Alan
--
alan....@argonet.co.uk
alan....@riscos.org
Using an ARMX6
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 10:11:51 AM1/11/18
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Thank you for those suggestions that various persons have proffered.
Much to ponder on.
Reluctant to supply additional information about my collection.
Just how much information is needed? Could be endless. I cannot list each album in the collection. If information needed - ask a very few specific questions.
But here are a few snippets:
*mostly orchestral operetta and opera
*very few chamber, instrumental, art songs
*adam to ziehrer
*very scanty JS Bach
*very many complete operas
*big collection of Reader's Digest and Time Life box sets
*very many Concert Hall and World Record Club
*big collection of folk and world music
*very little pop and rock
*little other genres
*mostly in excellent condition
*played on hi end turntables and cartridges/styli throughout the vinyl's existence
*always used dust bug and carbon fibre record cleaner
*total volume for shipping 44 cu ft or 1.22 cu metres
The collection will not be available for a least a couple of months yet - I need to finish my listening traversal, then do my final arrangement on shelves, then sort out vinyl duplicates, then recordings duplicates and then finally decide on what and if I keep any for myself.
Immediately available FOR COLLECTION are about 100 duplicates that I seperated whilst recently listening to the collection.
Please have some patience - it will be well worth waiting a little while for them, if I do not decide to just take them to the amenity dump.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 10:12:52 AM1/11/18
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On Monday, 8 January 2018 13:36:08 UTC, coppinsuk wrote:
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 10:14:01 AM1/11/18
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Thank you for those suggestions that various persons have proffered.
Much to ponder on.
Reluctant to supply additional information about my collection.
Just how much information is needed? Could be endless. I cannot list each album in the collection. If information needed - ask a very few specific questions.
But here are a few snippets:
*mostly orchestral operetta and opera
*very few chamber, instrumental, art songs
*adam to ziehrer
*very scanty JS Bach
*very many complete operas
*big collection of Reader's Digest and Time Life box sets
*very many Concert Hall and World Record Club
*big collection of folk and world music
*very little pop and rock
*little other genres
*mostly in excellent condition
*played on hi end turntables and cartridges/styli throughout the vinyl's existence
*always used dust bug and carbon fibre record cleaner
*total volume for shipping 44 cu ft or 1.22 cu metres
The collection will not be available for a least a couple of months yet - I need to finish my listening traversal, then do my final arrangement on shelves, then sort out vinyl duplicates, then recordings duplicates and then finally decide on what and if I keep any for myself.
Immediately available FOR COLLECTION are about 100 duplicates that I seperated whilst recently listening to the collection.
Please have some patience - it will be well worth waiting a little while for them, if I do not decide to just take them to the amenity dump.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
Much to ponder on.
Reluctant to supply additional information about my collection.
Just how much information is needed? Could be endless. I cannot list each album in the collection. If information needed - ask a very few specific questions.
But here are a few snippets:
*mostly orchestral operetta and opera
*very few chamber, instrumental, art songs
*adam to ziehrer
*very scanty JS Bach
*very many complete operas
*big collection of Reader's Digest and Time Life box sets
*very many Concert Hall and World Record Club
*big collection of folk and world music
*very little pop and rock
*little other genres
*mostly in excellent condition
*played on hi end turntables and cartridges/styli throughout the vinyl's existence
*always used dust bug and carbon fibre record cleaner
*total volume for shipping 44 cu ft or 1.22 cu metres
The collection will not be available for a least a couple of months yet - I need to finish my listening traversal, then do my final arrangement on shelves, then sort out vinyl duplicates, then recordings duplicates and then finally decide on what and if I keep any for myself.
Immediately available FOR COLLECTION are about 100 duplicates that I seperated whilst recently listening to the collection.
Please have some patience - it will be well worth waiting a little while for them, if I do not decide to just take them to the amenity dump.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
On Monday, 8 January 2018 13:36:08 UTC, coppinsuk wrote:
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 10:15:42 AM1/11/18
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coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 10:16:52 AM1/11/18
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On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 12:47:18 UTC, Alan Dawes wrote:
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 10:17:38 AM1/11/18
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On Monday, 8 January 2018 13:36:08 UTC, coppinsuk wrote:
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 10:36:38 AM1/11/18
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Thank you for those suggestions that various persons have proffered.
Much to ponder on.
Reluctant to supply additional information about my collection.
Just how much information is needed? Could be endless. I cannot list each album in the collection. If information needed - ask a very few specific questions.
But here are a few snippets:
*mostly orchestral operetta and opera
*very few chamber, instrumental, art songs
*adam to ziehrer
*very scanty JS Bach
*very many complete operas
*big collection of Reader's Digest and Time Life box sets
*very many Concert Hall and World Record Club
*big collection of folk and world music
*very little pop and rock
*little other genres
*mostly in excellent condition
*always used dust bug and carbon fibre record cleaner
*total volume for shipping 44 cu ft or 1.22 cu metres for those arranging collection.
Kerrison
Jan 11, 2018, 5:18:51 PM1/11/18
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You mention "dealers" but of course they're only going to want something they think they can sell. If your collection contains loads of LPs that dealers already have on their shelves, but can't get rid of because no-one's remotely interested, then they'll only cherry-pick what you have. That's assuming they'll even turn up, as they're more likely to want a complete list to peruse at their leisure, rather than traipse all the way to Shropshire on the off-chance of finding some rarity amongst 5000 items!
I'm afraid LP collectors of a certain age are all facing the same problem, not least if the LPs in question have been reissued on CD. I know that the National Sound Archive at the British Library refuses to take random boxes of 78s and LPs ("we're not a dumping ground") and again will only consider taking something very rare that they don't already have and which they happen to spot on a detailed list that the collector has to supply in advance. I also know that the Royal College of Music in London isn't interested either, as they don't have any turntables to play LPs on!
Sorry for a gloomy prognosis but who knows, you may get lucky, even though 5000 LPs is going to need a hell of a big truck to cart them all off in one go!
I'm afraid LP collectors of a certain age are all facing the same problem, not least if the LPs in question have been reissued on CD. I know that the National Sound Archive at the British Library refuses to take random boxes of 78s and LPs ("we're not a dumping ground") and again will only consider taking something very rare that they don't already have and which they happen to spot on a detailed list that the collector has to supply in advance. I also know that the Royal College of Music in London isn't interested either, as they don't have any turntables to play LPs on!
Sorry for a gloomy prognosis but who knows, you may get lucky, even though 5000 LPs is going to need a hell of a big truck to cart them all off in one go!
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 5:42:38 PM1/11/18
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Thanks for your candid and realistic comments - I am definitely under no illusions that "dealers" would be interested.
I have had a lot more interest from "TalkClassical" forum and very good positive responses from "FreeCycle".
Not ready to hand over/donate just yet - perhaps be ready in April 2018.
Cheers,
Douglas (UK)
coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 5:46:08 PM1/11/18
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coppinsuk
Jan 11, 2018, 8:15:13 PM1/11/18
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On Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:46:17 UTC, themusicparlour wrote:
> Having checked TalkClassical there's hardly been 'a lot more interest': any suggestions were similar (eBay/split into smaller lots)....and that before you stated material which, for decades, turns up for pennies @ Auctions (Concert Hall/Readers Digest/Time Life, et al)..get them there, yourself?
> Puts some received blog-comments into perspective...
"Puts some received blog-comments into perspective..."
A case of partial picture..... a number of private "off piste" communications. Think - Johari's Windows!
> Having checked TalkClassical there's hardly been 'a lot more interest': any suggestions were similar (eBay/split into smaller lots)....and that before you stated material which, for decades, turns up for pennies @ Auctions (Concert Hall/Readers Digest/Time Life, et al)..get them there, yourself?
> Puts some received blog-comments into perspective...
"Puts some received blog-comments into perspective..."
A case of partial picture..... a number of private "off piste" communications. Think - Johari's Windows!
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