On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 8:54:23 AM UTC-7, smo...@hotmail.com
> A lot of countries in Europe didn’t get most cases from people traveling to China or from visiting Chinese
> tourists, but from Italy or Austria. I have read that a lot of cases in New York are due to people traveling
> from Europe.
It's true. A lot of white liberals returning from the Swiss Alps infected low-wage essential workers who happen to be Brown and Black. Their privilege is to blame.
> You could say, Trump closed one door, but let another wide open. In effect so did countries in Europe
> only monitoring people who had been skiing in Italy but not people skiing across the border in Austria.
> Many countries have made mistakes. (Of course the virus came to Italy from China in the first place).
You really shouldn't say that. This virus knows no borders or colors. I mean, it's a Bat virus!
Celebrated NBC News international correspondent Richard Engel on MSNBC, March 18, 2020:
<< If you look at what happened during the Middle Ages, there was lots and lots of scapegoating against an ethnic group or a religious group whenever there were pandemics that affected the society and frightened a lot of people. And China certainly feels that is what’s happening now with people calling it the ‘Wuhan flu’ or the ‘Wuhan virus’ or the ‘China virus.’
This is a virus that came from the territory of China but came from bats. This is a bat virus, not a China virus. It doesn’t target Chinese people. It targets human beings who happen to touch their eyes, nose or mouth.” >>
> But where some countries learned early on from what happened in Italy (and China) others didn’t. (Even
> if China has kept information from the rest of the world you can still learn from what happened and how
> it was handled - e.g. see Tomas Pueyo’s article on Medium “Why you must act now”).
Certainly. We should start with the welding shut the doors to apartment buildings in hot-spots such as New York, then institute mandatory cell phone tracking and contact tracing by centralized State overlords, and above all, restrictions on freedom of speech! No criticism allowed. Lily-white Gov. Gavin Newsom of California says so! Can you imagine a white Republican governor (say, Ronald Reagan or Pete Wilson) telling a majority-minority citizenry that they cannot exercise their Constitutional right? There would be Parisian-esque riots in the streets. Meanwhile, temperatures across Southern California this weekend will finally rise about 80 for the first time all year. We'll see how well the populace 'complies'. And what's Newsom gonna do about it??
<< CHP bans protests at California Capitol after rally against Newsom’s stay-at-home order
By Sam Stanton
April 22, 2020
Following Monday’s protest at the state Capitol where demonstrators defied Gov. Gavin Newsom’s orders banning large gatherings, the California Highway Patrol says it will no longer issue permits for events at any state properties, including the Capitol.
“Permits are issued to provide safe environments for demonstrators to express their views,” the CHP said in a statement. “In this case, the permit for the convoy was issued with the understanding that the protest would be conducted in a manner consistent with the state’s public health guidance.
“That is not what occurred, and CHP will take this experience into account when considering permits for this or any other group.” >>
> As to comparing numbers you might want to read Nate Silvers piece on that (“Coronavirus Case Counts
> Are Meaningless*”).
Nate Silver? The man who failed up spectacularly? 2016?? Would that we all get such favorable treatment. If he were a conservative, he'd be laughed out of the room. But he's a dependable nerdy, Jewish liberal. And yes, I can say that, my mother is Jewish, although I do not 'identify' as one (I know I know, I'm a Jew).
The entire 2016 campaign season was characterized by a series of spectacular Silver blunders. Not only did he notoriously give Hillary Clinton a greater than 99 percent chance of winning the Michigan primary (she lost to Bernie), and then bungled Indiana as well, but he spent a lot of the 18 month campaign on Twitter making a consistent fool of himself. Here follows but a sampling:
“I wonder how much of the Trump Bump is just voters trolling pollsters,” Two Good Reasons Not To Take the Donald Trump ‘Surge’ Seriously — July 16, 2015.
“Basically Trump is the Nickelback of presidential candidates. Disliked by most, super popular with a few.” — July 28, 2015
“PREDICTION: Trump won’t be the Republican /nominee.” — Aug. 6, 2015
“Media: Trump’s doing great! Nerds: No. Those polls don’t mean what you think. Media: A new poll shows Trump doing great! Proved you wrong!” — Aug. 9, 2015
“Donald Trump is winning the polls and losing the nomination.” — Aug. 11, 2015
“About 25% of Americans identify as Republican. Donald Trump’s getting about 25% of that 25% in the polls. Why is this impressive to people?” — Nov. 19, 2015
“Dear media, Please stop freaking out about Donald Trump’s polls.” — Nov. 23, 2015.
“As for me, I remain quite skeptical of Trump’s chances. I also think his nomination would be an unmitigated catastrophe for Republicans.” — Nov. 29, 2015
“Idea that ‘Trump would win an election today’ also dubious. If election were today, voters would be more informed and news cycle different.” — Dec. 4, 2015
(in response to Rupert Murdoch tweeting that Trump’s “cross-party appeal” was a “winning strategy”): “Actually, Trump is by far the least popular Republican with independents (and Democrats)”— Jan. 15, 2016
“Wait it’s just now sinking in that Trump might be a wee bit problematic as a general election candidate?” — March 20, 2016
“Trump’s general elex numbers have been terrible since he launched bid. Media barely noticed during 2015 Trumpmania.” — March 29, 2016
“[Idea of Trump being presumptive nominee by mid-May] is delusional. Math doesn’t work.” — April 9, 2016
“The bad news for Trump is that a poll showing him 5 points down is considered good news for Trump.” — June 26, 2016
“Perhaps the worst take is the ‘Trump’s actually doing well to only be down by 7!!!’ take. He’s the least popular major-party nominee ever.” — Aug. 3, 2016
“Trump has been super unpopular with the November electorate pretty much forever.” — Aug. 16, 2016
“Trump is doubling down on a losing strategy.” — Aug. 18, 2016
“[The] most delusional part of Trump thinking he has a silent majority is how small a fraction of the population he’s even bothering to appeal to.” — Aug. 13, 2016