Which Dvorak Seventh?
Diaz Philipp
Since some time I am very great fan of Dvorak's Seventh Symphony.
And I always liked Rowicki here especially. Also Monteux. I cannot
understand that some call his LSO version as superficial. It seems
quite elegant to me.
Kubelik, Colin Davis or Szell are interesting also.
But that's it.
Which versions are - in your mind - worth of listening too?
I just saw Giulini with the LPO (from the late seventies). Does anyone
know this recording?
Best
Kai-Uwe
Simon Roberts
: Hallo all,
: Since some time I am very great fan of Dvorak's Seventh Symphony.
: And I always liked Rowicki here especially. Also Monteux. I cannot
: understand that some call his LSO version as superficial. It seems
: quite elegant to me.
: Kubelik, Colin Davis or Szell are interesting also.
: But that's it.
: Which versions are - in your mind - worth of listening too?
I agree re Monteux, Rowicki, Davis and Kubelik, but not re Szell, who I
find rather dull here. A notable absence from your list is Kertesz, whose
exciting performance (the best thing in his set, I think, along with no.
8) I might put at the head of the list.
Simon
David Wake
>
> I agree re Monteux, Rowicki, Davis and Kubelik, but not re Szell, who I
> find rather dull here. A notable absence from your list is Kertesz, whose
> exciting performance (the best thing in his set, I think, along with no.
> 8) I might put at the head of the list.
>
Does anyone know whether the Monteux Dvorak 7th will ever be available
on CD again? Possibly as a Decca Legend??
David
Tony Movshon
> Which versions are - in your mind - worth of listening too?
With Monteux, Szell, Kertesz, and Rowicki in the not-to-be-missed
category is Kosler's recording with the Czech Philharmonic on
Supraphon. Also excellent is an earlier (mono) recording by Sejna,
also with the CzPO and also on Supraphon.
Kosler did a cycle with the Slovak Philharmonic on Opus which has
been partially reissued in one of those cheap Brilliant boxes. The
Slovak 7th is not as impressive as the earlier CzPO one, but it's
still very good. The 5th and 6th in the later cycle are especially
fine.
Tony Movshon
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Richard Chon
mellow, warm tones from the orchestra. Good analogue recording.
I especially love his second movement. The tragic overtones are very
well-caught.
Richard Chon
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RKaplan890
Bernstein/NYPO, which Sony reissued a couple years ago in the "Bernstein
Century" edition. I find it much more compelling than the Kertesz, even though
I think the latter's cycle is indispensable for the first 6 symphonies (and
it's cheap!).
Richard Kaplan
Paul Goldstein
> Hallo all,
>
> Since some time I am very great fan of Dvorak's Seventh Symphony.
>
> And I always liked Rowicki here especially. Also Monteux. I cannot
> understand that some call his LSO version as superficial. It seems
> quite elegant to me.
>
> Kubelik, Colin Davis or Szell are interesting also.
Monteux is by far my favorite. I've never heard a negative word about
it. Rowicki and Davis are very good. Kubelik suffers IMO from poor
sound - his DGG Dvorak recordings give me a headache.
> But that's it.
>
> Which versions are - in your mind - worth of listening too?
Dohnanyi's Dvorak 7 is one of his best recordings, and features superb
playing and recorded sound. Shockingly unavailable on CD is the RCA
performance by Ormandy and the Philadelphians - the only performance
IMO to truly rival Monteux's.
> I just saw Giulini with the LPO (from the late seventies). Does anyone
> know this recording?
A very good example of Giulini's personal way with Dvorak, which some
love but others find very unidiomatic. I am a great admirer, but not
as a prime recommendation.
Paul Kintzele
Paul Goldstein wrote:
>
> Monteux is by far my favorite. I've never heard a negative word about
> it.
Which orchestra/label is it with? (I'm guessing LSO/Decca.) And is it
OOP? Was it coupled with anything?
Paul
Ceasar Braga,Jr.
The Monteux was on the Decca Historical Series coupled with the Beethoven 7.
Haitink's very first recording with the Concertgebouw was the Dvorak 7.It is
available on Dutch Masters.It still stands as one of his very best efforts.
Ceasar Braga
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Paul Goldstein
It was issued in that Decca/London Historical series in about 1990,
c/w the same performers' Beethoven 7, in its way just as compelling as
the Dvorak (though in a much more crowded field). Needless to add,
one of my absolute favorite CDs, very well mastered. Decca has
reissued all or most of its Monteux material in one form or another
(most recently some Eloquence issues), but generally has not given it
top priority. One exception is the Haydn 94/101 (c/w Brahms Haydn
Vars.)issued in the Original Sound series (I think that's what it was
called). Decca's treatment of Monteux is analogous in some ways to
Sony's treatment of Szell - reissued, sure, but often in budget series
with remasterings perhaps not everything they could be.
Richard S. Sandmeyer
<dn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I concur with the high opinions of Monteux, Szell, Kertesz, and Kubelik
(though Kubelik's sound is not up to the others mentioned); I haven't
heard the Rowicki in a long time. I'd put in a plug for Mehta's recording
with the Israel Philharmonic, too. It was made in the days before Mehta's
"burnout" or whatever it was that happened to him. It is on Australian
Eloquence and perhaps will show up on Eloquence elsewhere.
Rich Sandmeyer
richsand at iximd dot com
The Melsons
spontaneity as the occasionally-praised-here Paita without the
sloppiness. I love the intensity of almost all of the Szell/Cleveland
performance but despair at the limpness of the last-movement coda,
which should crown the work in a blaze of rhetorical grandeur but,
instead, is merely perfunctory.
Mark Melson
On 29 May 2001 06:42:43 -0700, diaz...@web.de (Diaz Philipp) wrote:
Greg
think it and 3 are the highlights of his set. The 8 is a bit too restrained
for my tastes, but still quite good.
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Raymond Hall
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> My favorite may be the Mehta/Israel Phil, which has much of the same
> spontaneity as the occasionally-praised-here Paita without the
> sloppiness. I love the intensity of almost all of the Szell/Cleveland
> performance but despair at the limpness of the last-movement coda,
> which should crown the work in a blaze of rhetorical grandeur but,
> instead, is merely perfunctory.
This Mehta/Israel PO Dvorak 7th is coupled with The Wood Dove and Carnival
(both with the LAPO) on Australian Eloquence Decca (466 906-2). Another
coupling on Eloquence is the 8th and 9th by Mehta/LAPO (461 314-2). Is this
worth considering as well? I think I'll go for Mehta's 7th though.
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Tony Movshon
> This Mehta/Israel PO Dvorak 7th is coupled with The Wood Dove and Carnival
> (both with the LAPO) on Australian Eloquence Decca (466 906-2). Another
> coupling on Eloquence is the 8th and 9th by Mehta/LAPO (461 314-2). Is this
> worth considering as well? I think I'll go for Mehta's 7th though.
They're both fine disks; I think the 8/9 is even better than the 7.
Tony Movshon
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Tony Movshon
> This Mehta/Israel PO Dvorak 7th is coupled with The Wood Dove and Carnival
> (both with the LAPO) on Australian Eloquence Decca (466 906-2). Another
> coupling on Eloquence is the 8th and 9th by Mehta/LAPO (461 314-2). Is this
> worth considering as well? I think I'll go for Mehta's 7th though.
They're both fine disks; I think the 8/9 is even better than the 7.
Tony Movshon
mov...@nyu.edu
Sol L. Siegel
>Shockingly unavailable on CD is the RCA performance by
>Ormandy and the Philadelphians - the only performance IMO to
>truly rival Monteux's.
Here, here! This is one of the best things Ormandy ever did,
positively throbbing with life. What makes the situation even more
frustrating is that there was never a listenable LP available in the
US; the inner-groove distortion on the Dynawarp* copies that came
out of RCA's Indianapolis plant was the worst I've ever heard on
previously unplayed records. I even sent a couple of copies back
to the plant and got letters back saying that they'd played them
and heard nothing wrong. (No, it wasn't my equipment, because
I got to double-checking it every time I made another defective
replacement of the thing.) I have a cassette that isn't too awful.
BTW, I believe it was Gramophone that once (not so long ago)
complained that Monteux was lacking in tension. If that's the
case, I'm not certain I want to know the reviewer's idea of tension.
-Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
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Victor
> find rather dull here. A notable absence from your list is Kertesz, whose
> exciting performance (the best thing in his set, I think, along with no.
> 8) I might put at the head of the list.
I discovered the 5th via Kertesz. What do others think of this recording?
More importantly, any other suggestions?
-Victor
Sol L. Siegel
>I discovered the 5th via Kertesz. What do others think of this
>recording?
>More importantly, any other suggestions?
I like Kertesz a lot in this symphony, Kubelik perhaps a bit more,
and Rowicki better still. This is lovely music, but it helps to have
a firm hand to keep it from meandering.
Victor
> find rather dull here. A notable absence from your list is Kertesz, whose
> exciting performance (the best thing in his set, I think, along with no.
> 8) I might put at the head of the list.
I discovered the 5th via Kertesz. What do others think of this recording?
More importantly, any other suggestions?
-Victor
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old favorite.
Pierre Paquin
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Simon Roberts
: > I agree re Monteux, Rowicki, Davis and Kubelik, but not re Szell, who I
I prefer Kubelik and Rowicki, especially the latter's more vital, headlong
finale.
Simon
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> Both Neumann/Czech Phil Performances. The early Haitink/Concertgebouw is
an
> old favorite.
I'll second the digital Neumann/Czech PO Dvorak 7th. Much under-rated imho.
Haven't heard the Haitink.
Steven Van Impe
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> Since some time I am very great fan of Dvorak's Seventh Symphony.
So am I, it is lots better than the Ninth which is so popular.
My favourite recordings (well, my ONLY recordings actually, but I like them
both a lot) are Dohnanyi (which I only have on tape unfortunately) and
Haitink (Concertgebouw Orchestra).
They are very different interpretations, and I had a bit difficulty with
Haitink at first, but it is a thrilling performance.
Steven
Diaz Philipp
> pgold...@aol.com (Paul Goldstein) writes:
>
>
> BTW, I believe it was Gramophone that once (not so long ago)
> complained that Monteux was lacking in tension. If that's the
> case, I'm not certain I want to know the reviewer's idea of tension.
>
> -Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
That is what I remember also. It was mentioned in a survey about
Dvorak Seventh, I think.
But - as I said - I cannot agree (Monteux is one of the most
interesting conductor's at all. I don't know any dull or superficial
recording from his side).
And I am looking forward to get the Ormandy. And the Kertesz also.
Perhaps the Giulini.
Thanks for your help.
Best
Kai-Uwe
Paul Goldstein
I don't like any of Kertesz's LSO Dvorak performances. Much better
5ths IMO are those by Rowicki and Jansons. This is a very
underappreciated piece.
Ryan Hare
Am I alone in liking Dorati/LSO on Mercury?
Ryan Hare
rh...@oz.net
Simon Roberts
: Am I alone in liking Dorati/LSO on Mercury?
Well, Dorati probably liked it.... I like the 8th that comes with it
enormously, but find the first movement of 7 too slow to work (or at least
too slow for Dorati to make it work for me; if memory serves,
Rostropovich's rather bloated performance on EMI is even slower but works
for me because it's more colourful and incisive and dramatic and better
recorded).
Simon
Frank Berger
Simon Roberts wrote:
The Sejna recording has been mentioned only once in this thread. That and
Monteux's are my favorites. I don't recall if it was Dvorak's 6th or 7th that
turned me on to Sejna, but I have been acquiring whatever I can of him - a
great conductor in not-too-bad mono on Supraphon.
MarkZ1000
I love the Paita recording on Lodia. Really an intense performance.
Mark Zimmerman * Chicago
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>
> I love the Paita recording on Lodia. Really an intense performance.
>
I *did* love it, until my CD disintegrated.
David
Lehobe
Simon Roberts
: mark...@aol.comnospam (MarkZ1000) writes:
: >
: > I love the Paita recording on Lodia. Really an intense performance.
: >
: I *did* love it, until my CD disintegrated.
I disliked it strongly (perhaps more than I would if I hadn't read such
gushy reviews as Penguin's, rosette and all), ditched it, then bought it
again (because I found it in a box with Paita's 8 and 9, which I hadn't
ever heard). I still don't get it; there are exciting noises at climactic
points, but the playing is sloppy and sounds unprepared (I guess if one
is sympathetic it sounds spontaneous...), nothing seems to happen between
the noisy bits, the sound is second rate. I very much like his 8th,
though - cheap thrills well conveyed by a superior orchestra and superior
engineering.
Simon
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Try Zdenek Kosler/Slovak Philharmonic if you can find it. (I'll bet
even the great Simon Roberts doesn't have this one.)
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>
> Diaz Philipp wrote:
> > Which versions are - in your mind - worth of listening too?
>
> category is Kosler's recording with the Czech Philharmonic on
> Supraphon. Also excellent is an earlier (mono) recording by Sejna,
> also with the CzPO and also on Supraphon.
>
> Kosler did a cycle with the Slovak Philharmonic on Opus which has
> been partially reissued in one of those cheap Brilliant boxes.
The 7th has been reissued on Opus itself. I found it once in SF Tower
and have never seen it since. It's not in any online source I know, nor
was it even in Tower's own store database. Where it came from I do not
know. Mulder? Scully?
Tony Movshon
>
> Tony Movshon wrote:
> >
> > Diaz Philipp wrote:
> > > Which versions are - in your mind - worth of listening too?
> >
> > With Monteux, Szell, Kertesz, and Rowicki in the not-to-be-missed
> > category is Kosler's recording with the Czech Philharmonic on
> > Supraphon. Also excellent is an earlier (mono) recording by Sejna,
> > also with the CzPO and also on Supraphon.
> >
> > Kosler did a cycle with the Slovak Philharmonic on Opus which has
> > been partially reissued in one of those cheap Brilliant boxes.
>
> The 7th has been reissued on Opus itself. I found it once in SF Tower
> and have never seen it since. It's not in any online source I know, nor
> was it even in Tower's own store database. Where it came from I do not
> know. Mulder? Scully?
Yes, I picked up the Opus cycle in dribs and drabs at Academy. I've
never seen it in a retail store.
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Tony Movshon
> Try Zdenek Kosler/Slovak Philharmonic if you can find it. (I'll bet
> even the great Simon Roberts doesn't have this one.)
I think I played bits of it for him once ...
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Simon Roberts
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> Simon Roberts wrote:
> >
> > Victor (kv...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > : > I agree re Monteux, Rowicki, Davis and Kubelik, but not
re Szell, who I
> > : > find rather dull here. A notable absence from your list
is Kertesz, whose
> > : > exciting performance (the best thing in his set, I think,
along with no.
> > : > 8) I might put at the head of the list.
> >
> > : I discovered the 5th via Kertesz. What do others think of
this recording?
> > : More importantly, any other suggestions?
> >
> > I prefer Kubelik and Rowicki, especially the latter's more
vital, headlong
> > finale.
>
> Try Zdenek Kosler/Slovak Philharmonic if you can find it.
(I'll bet
> even the great Simon Roberts doesn't have this one.)
>
I can't speak for "the great Simon Roberts" but I have it; yes,
it's very good, but I still prefer Rowicki.
Simon
Jonathan Yungkans
> Hallo all,
>
> Since some time I am very great fan of Dvorak's Seventh Symphony.
>
>
> Which versions are - in your mind - worth of listening to?
If you can find it, try Belohlavek/Czech Philharmonic on Chandos 9391.
Sweet strings, full but not-too-intrusive brass, nice winds and a
gutsy interpretation. It's on with the Nocturne for strings, which
isn't recorded very often, and The Water Goblin.
>
> I just saw Giulini with the LPO (from the late seventies). Does anyone
> know this recording?
Not off-hand, but Giulini was at something of a peak at that point of
his career. Might be worth a listen.
jy
David Hurwitz
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>
>pgold...@aol.com (Paul Goldstein) writes:
>
>>Shockingly unavailable on CD is the RCA performance by
>>Ormandy and the Philadelphians - the only performance IMO to
>>truly rival Monteux's.
>
>Here, here! This is one of the best things Ormandy ever did,
>positively throbbing with life. What makes the situation even more
>frustrating is that there was never a listenable LP available in the
>US; the inner-groove distortion on the Dynawarp* copies that came
>out of RCA's Indianapolis plant was the worst I've ever heard on
>previously unplayed records. I even sent a couple of copies back
>to the plant and got letters back saying that they'd played them
>and heard nothing wrong. (No, it wasn't my equipment, because
>I got to double-checking it every time I made another defective
>replacement of the thing.) I have a cassette that isn't too awful.
>
ongoing Ormandy Edition. You can find it at HMV Japan. I have it, it has been
nicely remastered, and sounds wonderful. The performance is excellent. I find
Monteux a bit faded now, having just listened to it again, particularly having
heard Neumann, Szell and Dohnanyi. However, the real sleeper among Sevenths, the
most exciting and the grandest, is Suitner's of Berlin Classics. It's also
gorgeously recorded, and his cycle seems to me overall just about the finest
available. It came as a shock, I must say, but if you listen without prejudice,
chances are you'll be amazed.
Dave
Simon Roberts
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> However, the real sleeper among Sevenths, the
> most exciting and the grandest, is Suitner's of Berlin
Classics. It's also
> gorgeously recorded, and his cycle seems to me overall just
about the finest
> available. It came as a shock, I must say, but if you listen
without prejudice,
> chances are you'll be amazed.
>
Many of us probably have a prejudice against him because his was
the first Beethoven set released on CD, and it's pretty bad.
Over the past few years I've been discarding that prejudice - it
seems that Beethoven set is an exception. I'm not sure I would
call his Dvorak 7th the most exciting available, but I certainly
agree that it was a pleasant surprise, as was the rest of the set
(I'm just guessing about his 1-3; don't have those), especially 5
and 6. And anyone wanting "central" Bruckner performances surely
need look no further than his 1/8, 4 and 5 (are there others?).
Simon
David Hurwitz
mean exciting first movement, the climax of which is thrilling. The finale is a
bit four-square, but my how he gets his orchestra to dig in and really play! For
sheer excitement in the finale, it's hard to beat Bernstein.
Anyway, Suitner's Brahms cycle is also pretty fine, and I'd listen again to his
Beethoven if you get a chance. It's certainly not "pretty bad." It has the same
virtues as his other recordings: exellent playing, fine sound, realistic
balances, and if it's gentler in places than some other performances, it's
seldom if ever dull. Finally, the ultimate Suitner sleeper is a spectacular Rite
of Spring (!) with Staatskapelle Dresden on Berlin Classics from the early 60s.
I don't know of any other German orchestra that could have played the piece this
well and with such savagery at this period--certainly not Berlin! An amazing
recording.
Best,
Dave
Matt Barker
are some real gems on the Supraphon label.
However, my vote goes to the outstanding recording of the 7th and 8th Dohnanyi did with Cleveland.
Matt
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> Hallo all,
>
> Since some time I am very great fan of Dvorak's Seventh Symphony.
>
> understand that some call his LSO version as superficial. It seems
> quite elegant to me.
>
> Kubelik, Colin Davis or Szell are interesting also.
>
> But that's it.
>
> I just saw Giulini with the LPO (from the late seventies). Does anyone
> know this recording?
>
>
> Kai-Uwe
Recent list of recommended recordings:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/mwi-recommends.htm
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Randy Lane
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005OBZY
Frank Berger
best Dvorak 7th in 2001 was Sejna and still is, most likely.
The only thing wrong with the ggggg ressurections is that
they generally start (whenever that was) with a real person
having a real question about recordings. The OP, if still
alive and kicking, is no longer monitoring the long-dead
thread, and we end up making recommendations to a ghost.
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> The only thing wrong with the ggggg ressurections is that
> they generally start (whenever that was) with a real person
> having a real question about recordings. The OP, if still
> alive and kicking, is no longer monitoring the long-dead
> thread, and we end up making recommendations to a ghost.
Matty
Frank Berger
> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 7:39:45 PM UTC-5, Frank Berger wrote:
>
>> The only thing wrong with the ggggg ressurections is that
>> they generally start (whenever that was) with a real person
>> having a real question about recordings. The OP, if still
>> alive and kicking, is no longer monitoring the long-dead
>> thread, and we end up making recommendations to a ghost.
>
> But it can still be enjoyable to discuss our favorites.
Mine are probably Davis/LSO (Philips) and Kertesz (Decca).
>
> Matty
>
leg rivers@hitmeonce.com
https://www.idagio.com/recordings/5026232
Herman
> On 8/4/2016 7:11 PM, Randy Lane wrote:
> > Levine's CSO recording is at the top my long list of
> > faves of the 7th
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005OBZY
> >
>
> Another resurrected ggggg thread, this time from 2001. The
> best Dvorak 7th in 2001 was Sejna and still is, most likely.
>
These firm recommendations of what's the Best Ever are mostly predicated on date of birth and place.
The Senja Dvorak is lovely, regardless of that, but if you look more closely most of these almost biblical allegiances to certain recordings here just happen to have been formed in posters' teens or early twenties. They're their imprint recordings.
Many people who say Toscanini or Szell is the best ever, have never even listened to recordings issued after they hit their fiftieth birthday (and why should they, if they're happy with what they know, and they're slowly turning deaf anyway?)
So this would mean that as time moves on the imprint versions would tend to be of a later date.
Gerard
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On 8/4/2016 7:11 PM, Randy Lane wrote:
> Levine's CSO recording is at the top my long list of
> faves of the 7th
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005OBZY
>
Another resurrected ggggg thread, this time from 2001. The
best Dvorak 7th in 2001 was Sejna and still is, most likely.
The only thing wrong with the ggggg ressurections is that
they generally start (whenever that was) with a real person
having a real question about recordings. The OP, if still
alive and kicking, is no longer monitoring the long-dead
thread, and we end up making recommendations to a ghost.
Nobody is forcing you.
Ricardo Jimenez
wrote:
>depending on were you are you may be able to listen to Sejna performance here
>
>https://www.idagio.com/recordings/5026232
with symphony 5 and Slavonic Rhapsodies.
Bob Harper
but the notion that there will inevitably be a superior performance is
not a given, IMO. Different, yes. Interesting, yes. Superior? Maybe,
maybe not. For example, the slow movement of Op. 59/2 as recorded by the
Busch Quartet in 1941 was far from the first version I ever heard, let
alone 'imprinted' on, but it's difficult to imagine its ever being
superseded. Not impossible, but I suspect its superior must wait for the
Heavenly String Quartet.
As for listening to new stuff, I'm 67 and do so a lot. I have a large
number of Beethoven Quartet cycles, but just got the mono Hungarian set
from BRO, recordings I've never heard and to which I look forward with
great anticipation.
As far as the Dvorak 7 is concerned, I suppose I'd go with Monteux for
starters, with Davis, Rowicki, Suitner, and Harnoncourt also in the
running, especially Suitner.
Bob Harper
Frank Berger
the best "most likely." He replied "not necessarily." He
is correct, though a lesson in reading comprehension might
be useful. Then he asserts that people who think an older
recording "best" haven't listened to newer recordings, which
he can't know.
Herman
>
> Herman is correct, if irrelevant. I said Sejna's was still
> the best "most likely." He replied "not necessarily." He
> is correct, though a lesson in reading comprehension might
> be useful. Then he asserts that people who think an older
> recording "best" haven't listened to newer recordings, which
> he can't know.
>
I'm not blaming anybody. I don't take these Best Cliche Piece of Music Topics too seriously, and I understand when you're pushing eighty you have a different outlook and priorities. There's also nothing wrong with having imprinted on a particular performance. It's a very real thing, and a lot of RMCR is a testimony to this phenom. The most monumental case was, of course, Ansermetmaniac (god rest his soul) who lived in a time bubble, but all he was was more open and agressive about it.
Kerrison
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2015/May/Dvorak_sy7_2564666562.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAvQJB6P9sg
MELMOTH
mercredi 03/08/2016, dans nos oreilles grandes ouvertes mais un peu
sales tout de même, et dans le message
<814ea636-0b43-4aa4...@googlegroups.com>, les doux
mélismes suivants :
> Recent list of recommended recordings:
--
Car avec beaucoup de science, il y a beaucoup de chagrin ; et celui qui
accroît sa science accroît sa douleur.
[Ecclésiaste, 1-18]
MELMOTH - souffrant
Bozo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07mwnyp
Norman Schwartz
16, it doesn't appear to be a Japanese Sony edition. Isn't the Century
release good enough?
https://www.amazon.com/Dvorak-Symphony-7-Smetana/dp/B01HLDYQ4E/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1470615526&sr=1-3&keywords=bernstein+dvorak
Ditto this B. Walter release:
https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphony-5-Schubert/dp/B01HLDYQDA/ref=sr_1_7?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1470615910&sr=1-7&keywords=bruno+walter+beethoven
Neither of these Bernstein or Walter recordings are described as SACDs.
Amazon is offering both at the pre-release price of $16.23, can they both
have added lanolin?
Haydn House
jrsnfld
> DVORAK: Symphony Nº 7 Czech Philharmonic, Zdenek Kosler, Conductor
--Jeff