Is Tepper "Rude"? (In the British sense)
Ward Hardman
Looking into Tepper's website,
Britain's Karen was roused to fight!
Is he really "rude,"
With a touch of the lewd,
Or is Matthew just "not polite"?
Now I have a standing request with my brother, who lives in England, to
mail me a few "rude postcards" whenever he goes on vacation. They are
invariably sex-oriented, so my impression was that "rude" meant "raunchy."
Matthew's website remarks on Charlotte Church emphasize her vocal
shortcomings, while implying some furtive perverseness (beyond Dickensian
over-exploitation of the poor young thing's vocal apparatus) on the part of
Sony executives, so there might be *slight* grounds for suggesting lewd-
rudeness. But Miss Karen's complaint was that he had besmirched the
reputation of "popular people." Further, Matthew did not acknowledge that
although "you do not like her, ...many people do, hence her sales," which
led directly into the charge of being "rude." This seems to equate
"rudeness" with disagreement with mass-culture trends. I thought that the
British prided themselves on individuality and eccentricity rather than
herd-following.
If Karen wants genuinely "rude" commentary on Charlotte Church,
then she would have to try some of my limericks:
Pitiful little Miss Charlotte!
A "talent" for a used car lot,
An unripe tomato
With faked-up vibrato,
A "classic" kind of a harlot.
Perhaps our U.K. contributors can clarify the meaning of "rude"
for us "Yanks." ;-)
--Ward Hardman
"The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple
competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
- H.L. Mencken
Ray Hall
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| In another thread ("More whoring from Sony"), controversy was ignited:
|
| Looking into Tepper's website,
| Britain's Karen was roused to fight!
| Is he really "rude,"
| With a touch of the lewd,
| Or is Matthew just "not polite"?
Yes. No further commentary needed.
And why should Karen want to try your limericks? Most are painfully boring.
And why should any UK poster bother answering your final question? I should
just leave the matter alone, and concentrate on music.
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Sonarrat Citalis
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> If Karen wants genuinely "rude" commentary on Charlotte Church,
> then she would have to try some of my limericks:
>
> Pitiful little Miss Charlotte!
> A "talent" for a used car lot,
> An unripe tomato
> With faked-up vibrato,
> A "classic" kind of a harlot.
For metrical clarity, make that "classical," and "A 'talent' -made- for a used
car lot.
> Perhaps our U.K. contributors can clarify the meaning of "rude"
> for us "Yanks." ;-)
I hope so! I can never seem to tell the difference. ;)
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Karen
>
> Perhaps our U.K. contributors can clarify the meaning of "rude"
> for us "Yanks." ;-)
>
> --Ward Hardman
>
> "The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple
> competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
> - H.L. Mencken
You of all people, in the heartland of capitalism should consider the
good fortune of taking advantage of commercial products. (Those that
sell in easy volume to the majority) Our people buy your junk food,
chew your awful gum and in recent times have suffered stories of lewd
presidential acts. In which case, I can see nothing wrong with the
acceptance of some commercial consumer goods back, it does not warrant
an endless hate campaign, when in fact the product in this case
happens to be a sweet young female human being. That is more than I
cansay for ..........ummm no, I am not going to be that rude. Have a
nice day.
Karen xxxx
Ray Hall
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| "Ward Hardman" <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message
| news:a8vial$sn8$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu...
|
| > If Karen wants genuinely "rude" commentary on Charlotte Church,
| > then she would have to try some of my limericks:
| >
| > Pitiful little Miss Charlotte!
| > A "talent" for a used car lot,
| > An unripe tomato
| > With faked-up vibrato,
| > A "classic" kind of a harlot.
|
| For metrical clarity, make that "classical," and "A 'talent' -made- for a
used
| car lot.
|
| > Perhaps our U.K. contributors can clarify the meaning of "rude"
| > for us "Yanks." ;-)
|
| I hope so! I can never seem to tell the difference. ;)
I would have sincerely hoped you would have worked that out for yourself
Sonarrat. It really is so simple.
Ciao to all the many decent people in this NG, of ALL nationalities, but the
double standards, pedantry and what often passes for intelligence, by the
few, has made this NG suddenly unbearable to me.
Good riddance to the few rotten maggots here. I have better things to do.
Sonarrat Citalis
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> | > Perhaps our U.K. contributors can clarify the meaning of "rude"
> | > for us "Yanks." ;-)
> |
> | I hope so! I can never seem to tell the difference. ;)
>
> I would have sincerely hoped you would have worked that out for yourself
> Sonarrat. It really is so simple.
>
> Ciao to all the many decent people in this NG, of ALL nationalities, but the
> double standards, pedantry and what often passes for intelligence, by the
> few, has made this NG suddenly unbearable to me.
>
> Good riddance to the few rotten maggots here. I have better things to do.
I may be wrong, but it seems to me you're just in a bad mood. I think you
should just take a few days off and then make a decision. We may not deserve
you, but it's a pleasure nonetheless.
Bob Lombard
<sona...@postmark.net> wrote:
>> Perhaps our U.K. contributors can clarify the meaning of "rude"
>> for us "Yanks." ;-)
>
>I hope so! I can never seem to tell the difference. ;)
If you go back a few hundred years in England, 'rude'
describes the nature of the peasant class. Their common
speech retained the Anglo-Saxon words for intimate body
parts, excretions and what not; plus other uncouth habits -
some of them even bathed regularly.
bl
vladimir
>
>If you go back a few hundred years in England, 'rude'
>describes the nature of the peasant class. Their common
>speech retained the Anglo-Saxon words for intimate body
>parts, excretions and what not; plus other uncouth habits -
>some of them even bathed regularly.
>
- p.
Andrew Clarke
> If Karen wants genuinely "rude" commentary on Charlotte Church,
> then she would have to try some of my limericks:
>
> Pitiful little Miss Charlotte!
> A "talent" for a used car lot,
> An unripe tomato
> With faked-up vibrato,
> A "classic" kind of a harlot.
Yes, indeed: this is "rude" in the Australian, British and American
sense of "bad-mannered, uncouth and offensive". Like Mr Tepper's
signature, it says considerably more about its author than it does
about Miss Church.
It's not quite as bad as Classics Today's holding the late John Ogden
up to ridicule on its April 1st pages. I had been led to believe that
sneering and jeering at mental breakdown and its agonising
consequences was no longer tolerated in a civilised society.
Apparently it's now OK to do this if the individual concerned is dead
and British.
>
> --Ward Hardman
>
> "The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple
> competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
> - H.L. Mencken
Obviously H.L. Mencken read a higher class of lavatory door than you
do :-)
ajc
c
Ward Hardman
: You of all people, in the heartland of capitalism should consider the
: good fortune of taking advantage of commercial products. (Those that
: sell in easy volume to the majority) Our people buy your junk food,
: chew your awful gum and in recent times have suffered stories of lewd
: presidential acts. In which case, I can see nothing wrong with the
: acceptance of some commercial consumer goods back, it does not warrant
: an endless hate campaign, when in fact the product in this case
: happens to be a sweet young female human being.
OK... I understand. Palming off CC as a "classical" singer is revenge
for America's own shoddy exports. (I won't try to compare Royal Family
problems with White House scandals which are in a different league
entirely.) I would disgree that the "endless hate" is directed toward
the "sweet young" singer, rather than towards her exploiters, who used
to be reputable purveyors of high-quality classical recordings, but have
now demonstrated that Gresham's Law applies to music as well as money.
: That is more than I cansay for ..........ummm no, I am not going to be
: that rude. Have a nice day.
: Karen xxxx
The way you use "rude" here sounds more like the sense of "discourteous,"
unless you had some prime epithets and imprecations ready to loose.
But your forbearance is admirable. (Is that "British reserve"?)
So you deserve ten times "xxxx" in return! ;-)
Wayne Reimer
< blip >
>
> You of all people, in the heartland of capitalism should consider the
> good fortune of taking advantage of commercial products. (Those that
> sell in easy volume to the majority) Our people buy your junk food,
> chew your awful gum and in recent times have suffered stories of lewd
> presidential acts.
Oh, dear, not that pretzellingus attempt story again....
> In which case, I can see nothing wrong with the
> acceptance of some commercial consumer goods back, it does not warrant
> an endless hate campaign, when in fact the product in this case
> happens to be a
> sweet
- not
> young
- not so very
> female
- could be
> human being.
- nah...it's just a product, not the person, that's under discussion
Wayne Reimer
> "Ray Hall" <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:3uMs8.33192$uR5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
>
> > | > Perhaps our U.K. contributors can clarify the meaning of "rude"
> > | > for us "Yanks." ;-)
> > |
> > | I hope so! I can never seem to tell the difference. ;)
> >
> > I would have sincerely hoped you would have worked that out for yourself
> > Sonarrat. It really is so simple.
> >
> > Ciao to all the many decent people in this NG, of ALL nationalities, but the
> > double standards, pedantry and what often passes for intelligence, by the
> > few, has made this NG suddenly unbearable to me.
> >
> > Good riddance to the few rotten maggots here. I have better things to do.
>
> I may be wrong, but it seems to me you're just in a bad mood. I think you
> should just take a few days off and then make a decision. We may not deserve
> you, but it's a pleasure nonetheless.
>
wr
Sonarrat Citalis
"Wayne Reimer" <wr...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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If so, he'll come back tomorrow and swear he'll never do it again.
Matthew B. Tepper
>> In which case, I can see nothing wrong with the acceptance of some
>> commercial consumer goods back, it does not warrant an endless hate
>> campaign, when in fact the product in this case happens to be a sweet
>
> - not
>
>> young
>
> - not so very
>
>> female
>
> - could be
>
>> human being.
>
> - nah...it's just a product, not the person, that's under discussion
Indeed, the chit's heartless remarks about dead Dominicans and overrated
New York firefighters suggest that she has swallowed her own publicity.
--
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Top 3 worst UK exports: Mad-cow; Foot-and-mouth; Charlotte Church
Matthew B. Tepper
> Good riddance to the few rotten maggots here. I have better things to
> do.
Ray, I hope you feel better soon.
Ward Hardman
: Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message news:<a8vial$sn8$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
:>
:> "The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple
:> competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
:> - H.L. Mencken
: Obviously H.L. Mencken read a higher class of lavatory door than you
: do :-)
And, undoubtedly, heard a better class of singers than Sony offers today.
;-)
--Ward Hardman
"I am ... terrified by the thought that so much hideous and bad music
may be put on record forever."
- Sir Arthur Sullivan (1888)
Ward Hardman
: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 18:14:14 -0700, "Sonarrat Citalis"
: <sona...@postmark.net> wrote:
That seems like a reasonable explanation... direct, uneuphemistic speech.
Matthew B. Tepper
> I thought that the British prided themselves on individuality and
> eccentricity rather than herd-following.
Maybe in some bygone era. The upcoming "Classical Brit" Awards with
their arse-kissing of the mockera types demonstrate that the nation has
plenty of two-legged sheep just waiting to be sheared.
PFUI on the herd, and those who make their fortunes by defrauding them.
And hooray for the British individualists, whoever may remain!
RobBoston
that we have there prevented me from going to them. So, somebody out in the web
world appears to have categorized them as "adult" content. :-\
Needless to say, I'll be checking these sites out from home very soon!
Rob
Karen
> Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in
> news:a8vial$sn8$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu:
>
> > I thought that the British prided themselves on individuality and
> > eccentricity rather than herd-following.
>
> Maybe in some bygone era. The upcoming "Classical Brit" Awards with
> their arse-kissing of the mockera types demonstrate that the nation has
> plenty of two-legged sheep just waiting to be sheared.
>
> PFUI on the herd, and those who make their fortunes by defrauding them.
> And hooray for the British individualists, whoever may remain!
In Britain we would call you a nut case. K
Karen
> "Ray Hall" <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in
> news:3uMs8.33192$uR5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com:
>
> > Good riddance to the few rotten maggots here.
Karen
What a very silly quote, when he was partner to some of the worst garbage
of all time! K
David R L Porter
from karen...@hotmail.com (Karen) contains these words:
> > [Matthew Tepper wrote] PFUI on the herd, and those who make their
> > fortunes by defrauding them.
> > And hooray for the British individualists, whoever may remain!
> In Britain we would call you a nut case. K
No, in Britain we call him "not for the faint-hearted" (BBC Music
Magazine, April 2002, p. 108, 'Sites where musical opinions are given
free rein', by Paul Lay).
Which is fair enough, I think, though I don't think the writer has taken
time to fully savour the Tepper charisma -- there was no mention of
ducks at all... :)))
Matthew, if you haven't seen this article, let me know and I'll send you
a scan.
--
Best wishes,
David
david....@zetnet.co.uk
Visit us at www.porterfolio.com
Bob Lombard
My ancestors in 12th century England were Flemings;
certainly peasants, but...
bl
Matthew B. Tepper
news:20020410042539...@mb-ct.aol.com:
> Well, when I tried to visit his sites while at work, the net-nanny
> software that we have there prevented me from going to them. So,
> somebody out in the web world appears to have categorized them as
> "adult" content. :-\
That's very interesting, because (to quote from my front page):
"This Website has been very carefully edited for content. It may contain
absolutely no cuss words, descriptions of or incitements to violence, or
even anything of a n\a\u\g\h\t\y\ sexual nature, but don't let that fool
you! While it may be considered not harmful to children for that reason
alone, there is heavy use of sarcasm, irony, bitterness and cynicism
here. My own feeling is that one ought to be at least twenty years old
before trying to deal with some of the contents here -- but kids of that
age tend to have pretty awful taste in music, and so they won't be hip to
some of my primo stuff."
> Needless to say, I'll be checking these sites out from home very soon!
--
Matthew B. Tepper
news:200204101...@zetnet.co.uk:
Wow, you mean I'm mentioned in the old-fashioned print medium? What a
trip! Yes, please send me a scan! Or I may try to pick up that issue
next time I'm at a newsstand.
Karen
> David R L Porter <david....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in
> news:200204101...@zetnet.co.uk:
>
> > The message <63cd763a.02041...@posting.google.com>
> > from karen...@hotmail.com (Karen) contains these words:
> >
> >> > [Matthew Tepper wrote] PFUI on the herd, and those who make their
> >> > fortunes by defrauding them.
> >> > And hooray for the British individualists, whoever may remain!
>
> >> In Britain we would call you a nut case. K
> >
> > No, in Britain we call him "not for the faint-hearted" (BBC Music
> > Magazine, April 2002, p. 108, 'Sites where musical opinions are given
> > free rein', by Paul Lay).
> >
> > Which is fair enough, I think, though I don't think the writer has
> > taken time to fully savour the Tepper charisma -- there was no mention
> > of ducks at all... :)))
> >
> > Matthew, if you haven't seen this article, let me know and I'll send
> > you a scan.
> Wow, you mean I'm mentioned in the old-fashioned print medium? What a
> trip! Yes, please send me a scan! Or I may try to pick up that issue
> next time I'm at a newsstand.
Blow, blow, thou Tepper wind,
Thou art so unkind
As my ingratitude;
Thy tooth is not so keen,
Because thou art not seen,
Freeze, freeze, thou bitter sky,
That does not bite so nigh
As benefits forgot:
Though thou the waters warp,
Thy sting so deep and sharp
As friend remembered not.
Karen
> Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in
> news:a8vial$sn8$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu:
>
> > I thought that the British prided themselves on individuality and
> > eccentricity rather than herd-following.
>
> Maybe in some bygone era. The upcoming "Classical Brit" Awards with
> their arse-kissing of the mockera types demonstrate that the nation has
> plenty of two-legged sheep just waiting to be sheared.
>
> PFUI on the herd, and those who make their fortunes by defrauding them.
> And hooray for the British individualists, whoever may remain!
Blow, blow, thou Tepper wind,
Thou art not so unkind
As man's ingratitude;
Thy tooth is not so keen,
Because thou art not seen,
Although thy breath be rude.
Heigh-ho! sing, heigh-ho! unto the green holly:
Most friendship is feigning, most loving mere folly:
Then, heigh-ho, the holly!
This life is most jolly.
Freeze, freeze, thou bitter sky,
That does not bite so nigh
As benefits forgot:
Though thou the waters warp,
Thy sting is not so sharp
As friend remembered not.
Heigh-ho! sing . . .
Ward Hardman
: robb...@aol.comDoh (RobBoston) wrote in
: news:20020410042539...@mb-ct.aol.com:
:> Well, when I tried to visit his sites while at work, the net-nanny
:> software that we have there prevented me from going to them. So,
:> somebody out in the web world appears to have categorized them as
:> "adult" content. :-\
: That's very interesting, because (to quote from my front page):
: "This Website has been very carefully edited for content. It may contain
: absolutely no cuss words, descriptions of or incitements to violence, or
: even anything of a n\a\u\g\h\t\y\ sexual nature, but don't let that fool
^^^^^^
This is probably what offends Net Nanny, etc. Back to the old thesaurus
for euphemistic circumlocutions! ;-)
--Ward Hardman
Ward Hardman
: Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message news:<a90a6r$2dj$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
:>
:> "I am ... terrified by the thought that so much hideous and bad music
:> may be put on record forever."
:> - Sir Arthur Sullivan (1888)
: What a very silly quote, when he was partner to some of the worst garbage
: of all time! K
Do you refer to "The Lost Chord" or to "Onward, Christian Soldiers"? I was
listening to the former last night, sung by Caruso circa 1912, but couldn't
make out a word of it. (First time I'd ever heard it... not impressed.)
;-)
--Ward Hardman
Matthew B. Tepper
> Karen <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>: Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message
>: news:<a90a6r$2dj$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
>:>
>:> "I am ... terrified by the thought that so much hideous and bad
>:> music may be put on record forever."
>:> - Sir Arthur Sullivan (1888)
>
>: What a very silly quote, when he was partner to some of the worst
>: garbage of all time! K
>
> Do you refer to "The Lost Chord" or to "Onward, Christian Soldiers"?
> I was listening to the former last night, sung by Caruso circa 1912,
> but couldn't make out a word of it. (First time I'd ever heard it...
> not impressed.) ;-)
Either that, or the karen-thing is a troll who found out that I love
Gilbert & Sullivan and is just trying to get me riled up.
You know, if you wouldn't quote the troll's posts, I wouldn't see them.
D Krause
> Wow, you mean I'm mentioned in the old-fashioned print medium? What a
> trip! Yes, please send me a scan! Or I may try to pick up that issue
> next time I'm at a newsstand.
Yes, Matthew, you've been immortalized. In the April 2002 issue of
BBC Music Magazine, Paul Lay refers to the Shostakovichiana website as
"Always entertaining, but not for the faint-hearted," then continues
in the next paragraph: "Neither are Matthew B Tepper's pages, Enemies
of Classical Music and Ugly Voices. The former contains a lengthy
diatribe against US attorney general John Ashcroft...[snip]. The ugly
voices include Chris Merritt ('The caricature of a tenor') and, of
course, Charlotte Church ('a mediocre, half-baked talent...')." The
URL for your website is given in the sidebar "Site Guide."
Is greater fame possible?
Happy listening, and keep up the good work.
Van Eyes
news:ac4ee1cc.0204...@posting.google.com...
Kiss, kiss.
Regards
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Swami
wrote:
>
>You know, if you wouldn't quote the troll's posts, I wouldn't see them.
And this is from the person who quotes the spam that I otherwise
wouldn't see.
Matthew B. Tepper
news:ac4ee1cc.0204...@posting.google.com:
It's just so ironic that I watched Ashcroft last night on Letterman and
enjoyed it very much (except for his singing, but I DO have standards).
Thanks to all for the heads-up!
Karen
Wow a mention from BBC History Magaziine Man, Paul Lay, he must have a
good ear he likes Radiohead!
Radiohead were featured BBC Music Magazine. The magazine features
almost entirely on classical music, but in the internet section in an
article titled 'Making a case for new Music', Radiohead had a mention.
The whole passage (written by Paul Lay) was quite long, but here is a
section of it concerning Radiohead:
'...yet where does that leave the many who thirst for the new, who
seek the sounds of their own age that reach beyond the banality of
so much pop? And, if you doubt that many exist, take a look at the
splendid website of the band Radiohead, hardly a marginal voice (it
topped the album charts on both sides of the Atlantic), where it
urges fans to listen to influences, such as the music of Krzysztof
Penderecki, or the Seventies experimentation of Miles Davis. Hardly
mainstream fare.'
ahhhhhhhh
Karen
> Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in
> news:a91v81$ek3$3...@gondor.sdsu.edu:
>
> > Karen <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >: Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message
> >: news:<a90a6r$2dj$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
> >:>
> >:> "I am ... terrified by the thought that so much hideous and bad
> >:> music may be put on record forever."
> >:> - Sir Arthur Sullivan (1888)
>
> >: What a very silly quote, when he was partner to some of the worst
> >: garbage of all time! K
> >
> > Do you refer to "The Lost Chord" or to "Onward, Christian Soldiers"?
> > I was listening to the former last night, sung by Caruso circa 1912,
> > but couldn't make out a word of it. (First time I'd ever heard it...
> > not impressed.) ;-)
>
here for long, my holiday is soon over and I shall be gone.
is a troll - never been called that - who found out that I love
> Gilbert & Sullivan - owww dear, I thought this was about classical music,
now you confess your love of Victorian POP music, owww Matthew, it's
OK, all the village choirs here, over the pond like them as well, it's
so simple.
and is just trying to get me riled up. relax I am going soon. K xxxx
D Krause
[only his usual jealous whining]
Poor li'l "vaneyes;" isn't there anyone who thinks *your* website is
worth paying attention to?
Happy listening.
Andrew Clarke
> news:a91v81$ek3$3...@gondor.sdsu.edu:
>
> > Karen <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >: Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message
> >: news:<a90a6r$2dj$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
> >:>
> >:> "I am ... terrified by the thought that so much hideous and bad
> >:> music may be put on record forever."
> >:> - Sir Arthur Sullivan (1888)
>
> >: What a very silly quote, when he was partner to some of the worst
> >: garbage of all time! K
> >
> > Do you refer to "The Lost Chord" or to "Onward, Christian Soldiers"?
> > I was listening to the former last night, sung by Caruso circa 1912,
> > but couldn't make out a word of it. (First time I'd ever heard it...
> > not impressed.) ;-)
>
> Either that, or the karen-thing is a troll who found out that I love
> Gilbert & Sullivan and is just trying to get me riled up.
>
> You know, if you wouldn't quote the troll's posts, I wouldn't see them.
For goodness' sake man, can't you see that in this case the troll is
you? If you stuck to sensible postings about classical music instead
of all this hysterical stuff, we wouldn't be getting all these
interminable and devisive threads all the time.
We get too many postings in this group from people who, not so long
ago, would have found it screamingly funny to ridicule black Americans
and Jewish Americans and homosexual Americans. Well, they can't do
that any more, so the British just have to do instead. Karen is now
giving back as good as she gets, and I say "good on her".
ajc
c
Matthew B. Tepper
I assume you're referring to the Sony "Classical" Website? In which case
the answer is no.
Curtis Croulet
--
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Temecula, California
+33° 27' 59", -117° 05' 53"
Bill Baldwin
> Ward Hardman wrote:
>> "I am ... terrified by the thought that so much hideous and
>> bad music may be put on record forever."
>> - Sir Arthur Sullivan (1888)
>
> What a very silly quote, when he was partner to some of the worst
> garbage of all time!
So would you consider him the fourth worst UK export, or do you want to
bump one of the big three?
--
Bill Baldwin
Bill Baldwin
> It's just so ironic that I watched Ashcroft last night on
> Letterman and enjoyed it very much (except for his singing, but I
> DO have standards).
Huh? The newspaper report said he played the piano but *didn't* sing on
his Letterman appearance.
--
Bill Baldwin
Matthew B. Tepper
news:Xns91ECD81EDACAE...@127.0.0.1:
They showed that clip (yet again) of him singing his song.
Matthew B. Tepper
news:c38t8.22$_FP4.1...@news2.randori.com:
> So, Matthew, how does it feel to be honored with an entire thread
> about you?
The tenth time around, it's not so special!
Karen
Sullivan would be not be at the top, these would be in my top ten.
John Tavener, Andrew Lloyd Webber and Anne Robinson. K
Karen
> "Curtis Croulet" <curt...@pe.net> wrote in
> news:c38t8.22$_FP4.1...@news2.randori.com:
>
> > So, Matthew, how does it feel to be honored with an entire thread
> > about you?
>
> The tenth time around, it's not so special!
Blow, blow, thou Teppet wind,
Thou art not so unkind
As man's ingratitude;
Thy tooth is not so keen,
Because thou art not seen,
Although thy breath be rude.
Heigh-ho! sing, heigh-ho! unto the green holly:
Most friendship is feigning, most loving mere folly:
Then, heigh-ho, the holly!
This life is most jolly.
Freeze, freeze, thou bitter sky,
That does not bite so nigh
As benefits forgot:
Though thou the waters warp,
Thy sting is not so sharp
As friend remembered not.
Heigh-ho! sing . . .
K
Ray Hall
news:63cd763a.02041...@posting.google.com...
The only time anyone mentions Tepper (is it 10, 11 or 15 times), or his
pathetic site, is well entrenched in the archives for those prepared to
look. Ignorance, hypocrisy, ugliness, stupidity, and a juvenile frame of
mind, are all hallmarks of anything to do with Tepper.
I like your prose too. Over my head though <g> Wherefore doth it cometh
from?
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| "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy?earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:<a923f...@enews2.newsguy.com>...
| > Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in
| > news:a91v81$ek3$3...@gondor.sdsu.edu:
| >
| > > Karen <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
| > >: Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message
| > >: news:<a90a6r$2dj$1...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
| > >:>
| > >:> "I am ... terrified by the thought that so much hideous and bad
| > >:> music may be put on record forever."
| > >:> - Sir Arthur Sullivan (1888)
| >
| > >: What a very silly quote, when he was partner to some of the worst
| > >: garbage of all time! K
| > >
| > > Do you refer to "The Lost Chord" or to "Onward, Christian Soldiers"?
| > > I was listening to the former last night, sung by Caruso circa 1912,
| > > but couldn't make out a word of it. (First time I'd ever heard it...
| > > not impressed.) ;-)
| >
| > Either that, or the karen-thing is a troll who found out that I love
| > Gilbert & Sullivan and is just trying to get me riled up.
| >
| > You know, if you wouldn't quote the troll's posts, I wouldn't see them.
|
| For goodness' sake man, can't you see that in this case the troll is
| you?
Unfortunately for the group, the troll does not.
| If you stuck to sensible postings about classical music instead
| of all this hysterical stuff, we wouldn't be getting all these
| interminable and devisive threads all the time.
Some hope, and don't hold your breath.
| We get too many postings in this group from people who, not so long
| ago, would have found it screamingly funny to ridicule black Americans
| and Jewish Americans and homosexual Americans. Well, they can't do
| that any more, so the British just have to do instead. Karen is now
| giving back as good as she gets, and I say "good on her".
Well said. And I'll support you with a Sydney "Good on ya" to Karen.
Ray Hall
| > In another thread ("More whoring from Sony"), controversy was ignited:
|
| > If Karen wants genuinely "rude" commentary on Charlotte Church,
| > then she would have to try some of my limericks:
| >
| > Pitiful little Miss Charlotte!
| > A "talent" for a used car lot,
| > An unripe tomato
| > With faked-up vibrato,
| > A "classic" kind of a harlot.
|
| Yes, indeed: this is "rude" in the Australian, British and American
| sense of "bad-mannered, uncouth and offensive". Like Mr Tepper's
| signature, it says considerably more about its author than it does
| about Miss Church.
Indeed.
| It's not quite as bad as Classics Today's holding the late John Ogden
| up to ridicule on its April 1st pages. I had been led to believe that
| sneering and jeering at mental breakdown and its agonising
| consequences was no longer tolerated in a civilised society.
| Apparently it's now OK to do this if the individual concerned is dead
| and British.
Or, from other quarters, even if one is alive and writing for Penguin or
Gramophone <g>
Karen
> Bill Baldwin <billb...@nettaxi.com> wrote in
> news:Xns91ECD81EDACAE...@127.0.0.1:
>
> > Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> >
> >> It's just so ironic that I watched Ashcroft last night on Letterman
> >> and enjoyed it very much (except for his singing, but I DO have
> >> standards).
> >
> > Huh? The newspaper report said he played the piano but *didn't* sing on
> > his Letterman appearance.
>
> They showed that clip (yet again) of him singing his song.
Being the same Matthew B. Tepper who provided music for the early
episodes of "Cerebus the Aardvark," and also did voices for one of
"Food Wars". Perhaps you could write something for Ashcroft, you might
even make a good duo.
Where can people download the great Tepper works?
Matthew B. Tepper
Ray, just drop me an email when you've calmed down. Just like last time.
Ward Hardman
: "Karen" <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: |
: | Blow, blow, thou Teppet wind,
: | Thou art not so unkind
: I like your prose too. Over my head though <g> Wherefore doth it cometh
: from?
Bill Shakespeare thought it was *poetry* when he wrote it as a song for
"As You Like It." (Replace "Tepper" with "winter.")
Apparently, the song is "as you like it." ;-)
Karen
> PLONK
>
> Ray, just drop me an email when you've calmed down. Just like last time.
What makes you think he is not calm, seems cool to me. K
Karen
> Ray Hall <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> : "Karen" <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> : |
> : | Blow, blow, thou Teppet wind,
> : | Thou art not so unkind
Well done - Teppet wind rather than winter worked well. K
Van Eyes
Mo' garble.
I see yo' "kiss, kiss" buddy wit' all da kill-files is backin' you up
again...now let's see what he's garblin'.
Van Eyes
news:ms7t8.34228$CA6.4...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> I assume you're referring to the Sony "Classical" Website? In which case
> the answer is no.
Same ol' garble.
Ray Hall
Kool as a cucumber, Karen.
Wish you could stick around (fun isn't it?) - I always have respect for any
practising professional musicians. Are you with the LSO? Koooool, man, if
you were <g>
Ray Hall
| "Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote in message
| news:ms7t8.34228$CA6.4...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
|
| > I assume you're referring to the Sony "Classical" Website? In which
case
| > the answer is no.
|
| Same ol' garble.
Agreed.
Same ol' gobble, gobble, more like - or is that the wrong bird?
Ray Hall
I'd rather listen to Jarl.
COME BACK Jarl - ALL IS FORGIVEN !!!
Brendan R. Wehrung
> I'd rather listen to Jarl.
>
> COME BACK Jarl - ALL IS FORGIVEN !!!
>
You can't mean that!
Brendan
Matthew B. Tepper
@freenet9.carleton.ca:
Since I've dumped Mr. Hall into my killfile, I won't see anything he
writes unless it gets quoted by somebody else.
Ray Hall
news:a95r3o$9q7$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca...
Wanna bet on it?
<g>
Karen
> Matthew B. Tepper <o...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> : robb...@aol.comDoh (RobBoston) wrote in
> : news:20020410042539...@mb-ct.aol.com:
>>
> "The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple
> competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
> - H.L. Mencken
Bob Stringer wrote
Your sensitivity about a female's name following the phrase "mad cow" (if
you are in fact offended by it, instead of simply reaching for a convenient
argument) is a singularly English one. "Cow" is not a common term for a
female in the U.S. .......
The fact is that the use of the name cow, in association with a woman in the
UK, is about the worst thing you can say, hence, I take particular offence
to the way Tepper uses this as his signature. From the way it is written it
appears to connect to Miss Church, the other agricultural items are also a
sensitive issue with the British people. K
Blow, blow, thou Tepper wind.
Moira de Swardt
Ray Hall <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> Wish you could stick around (fun isn't it?) - I always have
respect for any
> practising professional musicians. Are you with the LSO? Koooool,
man, if
> you were <g>
One hopes professional musicians practice. :-)
Moira, the Faerie Godmother
Sonarrat Citalis
news:<a91uu7$ek3$2...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
> > Matthew B. Tepper <o...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > : robb...@aol.comDoh (RobBoston) wrote in
> > : news:20020410042539...@mb-ct.aol.com:
> >
> >>
> > "The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple
> > competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
> > - H.L. Mencken
>
> Bob Stringer wrote
> Your sensitivity about a female's name following the phrase "mad cow" (if
> you are in fact offended by it, instead of simply reaching for a convenient
> argument) is a singularly English one. "Cow" is not a common term for a
> female in the U.S. .......
Oh, yes it is. And it is purely derogatory.
> The fact is that the use of the name cow, in association with a woman in the
> UK, is about the worst thing you can say, hence, I take particular offence
> to the way Tepper uses this as his signature. From the way it is written it
> appears to connect to Miss Church, the other agricultural items are also a
> sensitive issue with the British people. K
Nothing about his signature says to me there is any connection there...the
nature of the association is made quite clear.
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Ray Hall
news:3cb6f693$0$2...@hades.is.co.za...
|
| Ray Hall <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
|
| > Wish you could stick around (fun isn't it?) - I always have
| respect for any
| > practising professional musicians. Are you with the LSO? Koooool,
| man, if
| > you were <g>
|
| One hopes professional musicians practice. :-)
Indeedy ah hope so too. One has to keep one's eye in, remembering that too
much practise makes Jill a dull girl <g>
Maybe Karen can let me know what arkestra she plays in. I bet she is rooly
good.
Martin Paton
<moira.d...@global.co.za> wrote:
>
>Ray Hall <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>
>> Wish you could stick around (fun isn't it?) - I always have
>respect for any
>> practising professional musicians. Are you with the LSO? Koooool,
>man, if
>> you were <g>
>
>One hopes professional musicians practice. :-)
Volodos practices for 2 hours a day!
Alain Dagher
Sonarrat Citalis wrote:
> "Karen" <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:63cd763a.02041...@posting.google.com...
>
>>Ward Hardman <har...@sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote in message
>>
> news:<a91uu7$ek3$2...@gondor.sdsu.edu>...
>
>>>Matthew B. Tepper <o...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>: robb...@aol.comDoh (RobBoston) wrote in
>>>: news:20020410042539...@mb-ct.aol.com:
>>>
>>>
>>> "The older I get, the more I admire and crave competence, just simple
>>> competence, in any field from adultery to zoology."
>>> - H.L. Mencken
>>>
>>Bob Stringer wrote
>>Your sensitivity about a female's name following the phrase "mad cow" (if
>>you are in fact offended by it, instead of simply reaching for a convenient
>>argument) is a singularly English one. "Cow" is not a common term for a
>>female in the U.S. .......
>>
>
> Oh, yes it is. And it is purely derogatory.
>
>
>>The fact is that the use of the name cow, in association with a woman in the
>>UK, is about the worst thing you can say, hence, I take particular offence
>>to the way Tepper uses this as his signature. From the way it is written it
>>appears to connect to Miss Church, the other agricultural items are also a
>>sensitive issue with the British people. K
>>
>
> Nothing about his signature says to me there is any connection there...the
> nature of the association is made quite clear.
There are two things wrong with Tepper's sig: foot and mouth is if
anything a UK import, and while Margaret Thatcher is alive and accepting
public speaking engagements the list is incorrect.
Alain
Bob Stringer
<al...@bic.mni.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>>>The fact is that the use of the name cow, in association with a woman in the
>>>UK, is about the worst thing you can say, hence, I take particular offence
>>>to the way Tepper uses this as his signature. From the way it is written it
>>>appears to connect to Miss Church, the other agricultural items are also a
>>>sensitive issue with the British people. K
>> Nothing about his signature says to me there is any connection there...the
>> nature of the association is made quite clear.
>There are two things wrong with Tepper's sig: foot and mouth is if
>anything a UK import, and while Margaret Thatcher is alive and accepting
>public speaking engagements the list is incorrect.
But then it would be OT. In any case, humor doesn't have to
be accurate.
Bob Stringer
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"1nospam" with "0" (a zero) in my address
Bob Stringer
<sona...@postmark.net> wrote:
>> Bob Stringer wrote
>> Your sensitivity about a female's name following the phrase "mad cow" (if
>> you are in fact offended by it, instead of simply reaching for a convenient
>> argument) is a singularly English one. "Cow" is not a common term for a
>> female in the U.S. .......
>
>Oh, yes it is. And it is purely derogatory.
You snipped my comment to make it more black-and-white than
it was. The missing part says:
"To be sure, it is used occasionally, but the connection
does not immediately come to mind. I've visited England,
and the number of times I heard the word "cow" used there,
plus the number of times I've heard it uddered on British TV
shows, far exceeds the number of times I've heard it used in
over 50 years of life in the U.S."
It's not a *common* term in the U.S., although it is used.
In my lifetime I've heard it used here maybe twice, and I'm
not even sure of that. Also, in the U.S. it is far from
"about the worst thing you can say" about a woman. Hence my
point: one has to be peculiarly sensitive in the first place
to read Tepper's sig as calling Charlotte Church a "cow."
Of course, if that was his intent, then he was subtle and
clever indeed! (Matthew, please clarify: did you have that
connection in mind?)
>> The fact is that the use of the name cow, in association with a woman in the
>> UK, is about the worst thing you can say, hence, I take particular offence
>> to the way Tepper uses this as his signature. From the way it is written it
>> appears to connect to Miss Church, the other agricultural items are also a
>> sensitive issue with the British people. K
>
>Nothing about his signature says to me there is any connection there...the
>nature of the association is made quite clear.
I'm guessing that in the end we agree.
Simon Roberts
>anything a UK import, and while Margaret Thatcher is alive and accepting
>public speaking engagements the list is incorrect.
Did she revoke her announcement on March 22 that she would make no
more public speeches in light of a series of recent minor strokes?
Simon
Simon Roberts
wrote:
[snip]
>
>It's not a *common* term in the U.S., although it is used.
>In my lifetime I've heard it used here maybe twice, and I'm
>not even sure of that. Also, in the U.S. it is far from
>"about the worst thing you can say" about a woman.
Nor is it in the UK.
Simon
Alain Dagher
Simon Roberts wrote:
Not that I know. However, just as bovine spongiform encephalopathy
appears to no longer be much of a risk, we must always remain vigilant.
You let down your guard just once and next thing you know you're reading
in your morning paper that she was in town claiming credit for the fall
of the Berlin wall again.
Alain
Adrian Hunter
"Alain Dagher" <al...@bic.mni.mcgill.ca> wrote in message
news:3CB72181...@bic.mni.mcgill.ca...
Alain, your first point is vald but thankfully Mrs Thatcher is under
doctor's orders not to engage in public speaking any more, so it's more than
50% correct....
Adrian
(British *and* with a sense of humour)
Adrian
Matthew B. Tepper
> Simon Roberts wrote:
>
>> Did she [Lady Thatcher] revoke her announcement on March 22 that she
>> would make no more public speeches in light of a series of recent
>> minor strokes?
>
> Not that I know. However, just as bovine spongiform encephalopathy
> appears to no longer be much of a risk, we must always remain
> vigilant. You let down your guard just once and next thing you know
> you're reading in your morning paper that she was in town claiming
> credit for the fall of the Berlin wall again.
Here in the US, the supporters of former president Ronald Reagan have been
known to claim that the credit is all his. Heck, I can cause a red traffic
light to turn green; all I have to do is to wait long enough!
Samir Golescu
On 12 Apr 2002, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> Here in the US, the supporters of former president Ronald Reagan have been
> known to claim that the credit is all his. Heck, I can cause a red traffic
> light to turn green; all I have to do is to wait long enough!
As it seems, in Europe, not necessarily in the Eastern one, the red turned
back to brown.....
regards,
SG
____________
<Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.>
-- Benjamin Franklin
Bob Stringer
Roberts) wrote:
Well, I figured that, but I wasn't going to argue the point
with a resident who claimed otherwise.
Van Eyes
> Now I have a standing request with my brother, who lives in England....
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/belvedere/226/durcan.htm
Karen
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:16:04 -0700, "Sonarrat Citalis"
> <sona...@postmark.net> wrote:
>
> >> Bob Stringer wrote
> >> Your sensitivity about a female's name following the phrase "mad cow" (if
> >> you are in fact offended by it, instead of simply reaching for a convenient
> >> argument) is a singularly English one. "Cow" is not a common term for a
> >> female in the U.S. .......
> >
> >Oh, yes it is. And it is purely derogatory.
>
> You snipped my comment to make it more black-and-white than
> it was. >
Snip again Bob, from your text, you state this -
In fact, although I've seen Tepper's signature ever since he
started using it, I never drew the association -- what I saw
was "mad cow disease," not "cow." Now that you *do* point
it out, though, I think it's clever indeed on Tepper's part,
since the CC phenomenon is a sort of disease. I now find his
sig more amusing that I did before. Sorry. As I said, this
is not serious stuff.
The latest Oxford Dictionary - word Cow - derog - a woman, esp. a
coarse or unpleasant one. Aust & NZ unpleasant person, thing,
situation.
Bob Stringer explained it very well, Tepper rude. K
Blow, blow, thou ill Tepper wind.
Karen
The latest Oxford Dictionary - word Cow - derog - a woman, esp. a
coarse or unpleasant one. Aust & NZ unpleasant person, thing,
situation.
Bob Stringer explains, quote from his own text.
In fact, although I've seen Tepper's signature ever since he started
using it, I never drew the association -- what I saw was "mad cow
disease," not "cow." Now that you *do* point it out, though, I think
it's clever indeed on Tepper's part, since the CC phenomenon is a sort
of disease. I now find his sig more amusing that I did before.........
Blow, blow, thou ill Tepper wind from accross the pond.
See his sig, I find it very rude indeed.
Top 3 worst UK exports: Mad-cow; Foot-and-mouth; Charlotte Church.
P.S. Deal for Mr Tepper, remove the whole line and I will leave this
place?
Simon Roberts
>sd...@pobox.upenn.edu (Simon Roberts) wrote in message news:<slrn3vsabe9...@pobox.upenn.edu>...
>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:18:41 -0700, Bob Stringer <bob101...@spamcop.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >
>> >It's not a *common* term in the U.S., although it is used.
>> >In my lifetime I've heard it used here maybe twice, and I'm
>> >not even sure of that. Also, in the U.S. it is far from
>> >"about the worst thing you can say" about a woman.
>>
>> Nor is it in the UK.
>>
>> Simon - Wrong it is now a common swear word, females can not stand !
>
>The latest Oxford Dictionary - word Cow - derog - a woman, esp. a
>coarse or unpleasant one. Aust & NZ unpleasant person, thing,
>situation.
Of course. You might notice that what I wrote is that it's not
"about the worst thing you can say" about a woman. It isn't.
Simon
Audiophilia
news:63cd763a.02041...@posting.google.com...
> Sullivan would be not be at the top, these would be in my top ten.
> John Tavener, Andrew Lloyd Webber and Anne Robinson. K
You are my type of gal! Although, John's early stuff is really good.
I was hoping you were a flautist, but after the 'Tepper Thing', I think you
play trombone. Quite a few in London, now.
Keep up the excellent posts. Refreshing. And you are spot on about Charlie
Mac. What a terrific musician.
Kind regards,
Anthony Kershaw, Editor/Publisher
AUDIOPHILIA -- The Online Journal for the Serious Audiophile
http://www.audiophilia.com
An electronic publication of Audiophilia, Inc.
Bob Stringer
(Karen) wrote:
>> >It's not a *common* term in the U.S., although it is used.
>> >In my lifetime I've heard it used here maybe twice, and I'm
>> >not even sure of that. Also, in the U.S. it is far from
>> >"about the worst thing you can say" about a woman.
>>
>> Nor is it in the UK.
>>
>> Simon - Wrong it is now a common swear word, females can not stand !
>
>The latest Oxford Dictionary - word Cow - derog - a woman, esp. a
>coarse or unpleasant one. Aust & NZ unpleasant person, thing,
>situation.
A *swear* word?
???
I don't know about England, but it certainly isn't a swear
word in the U.S. Far from it.
Also, as Simon as already pointed out, he was not wrong. He
said it isn't ""about the worst thing you can say," even in
England.
>Bob Stringer explains, quote from his own text.
>
>In fact, although I've seen Tepper's signature ever since he started
>using it, I never drew the association -- what I saw was "mad cow
>disease," not "cow." Now that you *do* point it out, though, I think
>it's clever indeed on Tepper's part, since the CC phenomenon is a sort
>of disease. I now find his sig more amusing that I did before.........
Good grief, you're a serious person.
>[snipped]
Top 3 worst UK exports: Mad-cow; Foot-and-mouth; Charlotte
Church.
What if he changed it to: "Top 3 worst UK exports: Mad
"unpleasant person" disease; Foot-and-mouth; Charlotte
Church"?
It sort of loses the point, but is that better now?
MrT
Tibetan wisdom, it's required for enjoying RMCR. Incidentally, if you
were to adopt an attitude of kindness towards Sir Matthew Tepper, you
would recognize the profound humbleness in his "oy vey". What I see is
that, while Sir Matthew fully acknowledges himself, you are coming on
publicly as righteous. Around these parts, respect has to be earned;
make sure you earn yours before you start ignoring seniority.
Best regards,
MrT
Van Eyes
news:7a96283a.02041...@posting.google.com...
What a pile of poop. You were kidding.
Ray Hall
| See his sig, I find it very rude indeed.
Not only rude and ignorant, (but if you had been here over 4 years, that
wouldn't have come as quite a shock), but quite irrelevant in the context of
a classical music group.
NO. Please Karen. Let the buffoon keep it. We need you. There are too many
shrinking violets in this group.
| Top 3 worst UK exports: Mad-cow; Foot-and-mouth; Charlotte Church.
NO. Please Karen. Let the buffoon keep it. We need yooooouoooo- ooaoo-
oooaoooooooo (Hiawatha flitting momentarily through my brain). There are too
many shrinking violets in this group. His signature file, on reflection,
says more about the "little man" than he'll ever know <g>
Ray Hall
news:8bf6ccae894ad2a4530...@mygate.mailgate.org...
| "MrT" <symbi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:7a96283a.02041...@posting.google.com...
|
| > Lighten up, Karen. Your first task is to lighten up. That's not only
| > Tibetan wisdom, it's required for enjoying RMCR. Incidentally, if you
| > were to adopt an attitude of kindness towards Sir Matthew Tepper, you
| > would recognize the profound humbleness in his "oy vey". What I see is
| > that, while Sir Matthew fully acknowledges himself, you are coming on
| > publicly as righteous. Around these parts, respect has to be earned;
| > make sure you earn yours before you start ignoring seniority.
|
|
| What a pile of poop. You were kidding.
Mr T is the sole dispenser of "Poophoods" in this group. Be careful, as the
committee may be watching your behaviour Van Eyes <g>
And 'ave another Naxoi or a Sony on me <g>
Bill Baldwin
> Curtis Croulet wrote:
>
>> So, Matthew, how does it feel to be honored with an entire thread
>> about you?
>
> The tenth time around, it's not so special!
Careful there. I said the exact same thing on my honeymoon and my wife
slapped me.
--
Bill Baldwin
Matthew B. Tepper
news:Xns91EEA3D701442...@127.0.0.1:
What happened to your first nine wives? It's my bet you oughtn't to have
played that Bartok opera for them.
--
Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
My main music page --- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/berlioz.html
To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
Karen
> Ray Hall <hallr...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>
> > Wish you could stick around (fun isn't it?) - I always have
> respect for any
> > practising professional musicians. Are you with the LSO? Koooool,
> man, if
> > you were <g>
>
> One hopes professional musicians practice. :-)
>
They do indeed Moira byeeeeeeee
Wayne Reimer
says...
Matthew B. Tepper
news:MPG.1722cc547...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
> I'm so confused here...I thought the mad cow *was* Thatcher!
No, she was Attila the Hen. (I actually heard Neville Marriner refer to
her by that nickname, in spoken remarks at a concert, yet!)
Samir Golescu
> I'm so confused here...I thought the mad cow *was* Thatcher!
That trophy goes to Susan Sontag, the proto-Chomkist putanella, who
claimed that "the white race is the cancer of human history" or something
similar.
Whatever the Iron Lady might have done/said, she is far, very far from
aspiring at this level of idiocy, which the innocent-eyed, good-hearted,
milk-giving gentle cow, when not ill, is shouldn't be accused of.
Alain Dagher
Samir Golescu wrote:
>
>
>>I'm so confused here...I thought the mad cow *was* Thatcher!
>>
>
>
> That trophy goes to Susan Sontag, the proto-Chomkist putanella, who
> claimed that "the white race is the cancer of human history" or something
> similar.
I don't know if she really said that and if so in what context, but
"Illness as Metaphor" is quite brilliant.
(And anyway the definition of cancer is something that invades and
spreads to distant sites.)
>
> Whatever the Iron Lady might have done/said, she is far, very far from
> aspiring at this level of idiocy, which the innocent-eyed, good-hearted,
> milk-giving gentle cow, when not ill, is shouldn't be accused of.
Samir - do you ever ride the bus?
Alain
Alain Dagher
Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> Wayne Reimer <wr...@pacbell.net> wrote in
> news:MPG.1722cc547...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
>
>
>>I'm so confused here...I thought the mad cow *was* Thatcher!
>>
>
> No, she was Attila the Hen. (I actually heard Neville Marriner refer to
> her by that nickname, in spoken remarks at a concert, yet!)
>
>
My favorite Thatcher quote is "Conrad Black makes me feel wet". I always
thought it referred to the fact that he was a lapdog of the right.
Alain
Samir Golescu
> >>I'm so confused here...I thought the mad cow *was* Thatcher!
> >
> > That trophy goes to Susan Sontag, the proto-Chomkist putanella, who
> > claimed that "the white race is the cancer of human history" or something
> > similar.
>
>
> I don't know if she really said that
Yes she did. Why do you doubt it if you don't know?
> and if so in what context,
Here's your context, hardly of a nature to redeem this blathering
monument of idiocy:
<<The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare,
parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of
women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballet et al., don't redeem what this
particular civilization has wrought upon he world. The white race is the
cancer of human history.>>
[note the lunatic imbecile including Marx alongside Pascal, Mozart and
Shakespeare]
> but "Illness as Metaphor" is quite brilliant.
Yes, and Hitler was a great house-painter.
> > Whatever the Iron Lady might have done/said, she is far, very far from
> > aspiring at this level of idiocy, which the innocent-eyed, good-hearted,
> > milk-giving gentle cow, when not ill, shouldn't be accused of.
>
> Samir - do you ever ride the bus?
More to the point than my ever riding the bus, did you ever even attempt
to realize that defending "interesting" racist idiots, only because the
object of their bigotry and hatred happens to be "the white race", may be
deigned, even from a man of your intelligence, as a manifestation of an
"enfant terrible" who forgot to adolesce thoroughly?
regards,
SG
Matthew B. Tepper
news:Pine.GSO.4.31.020414...@ux11.cso.uiuc.edu:
><<The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare,
> parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation
> of women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballet et al., don't redeem what this
> particular civilization has wrought upon he world. The white race is
> the cancer of human history.>>
>
> [note the lunatic imbecile including Marx alongside Pascal, Mozart and
> Shakespeare]
I note the possibly-token inclusion of exactly one feminist issue, which
thus narrowly prevents this from being the standard rant against "dead
white European males" (assuming she said this after Balanchine died).
joe dassin
> See his sig, I find it very rude indeed.
> Top 3 worst UK exports: Mad-cow; Foot-and-mouth; Charlotte Church.
> P.S. Deal for Mr Tepper, remove the whole line and I will leave this
> place?
I'm still wondering why this line offends you so.
Supposing the coupling of the word cow with a feminine name is
SO rude, it's IMHO clearly supposed to be 2nd degree.
He's saying he doesn't like Charlotte Church, that's all,
and he's entitled to his opinion. Very few sig lines express
a serious thought, and there are quite a few sig lines who
insult many people, talk of killing Britney Spears, and say
George W has a negative IQ, and nobody takes them seriously.
Anyway, I think you're overreacting.
Alain Dagher
Samir Golescu wrote:
>
>>>>I'm so confused here...I thought the mad cow *was* Thatcher!
>>>>
>>>That trophy goes to Susan Sontag, the proto-Chomkist putanella, who
>>>claimed that "the white race is the cancer of human history" or something
>>>similar.
>>>
>>
>>I don't know if she really said that
>>
>
> Yes she did. Why do you doubt it if you don't know?
"Deformation professionelle".
>
>
>>and if so in what context,
>>
>
> Here's your context, hardly of a nature to redeem this blathering
> monument of idiocy:
>
> <<The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare,
> parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of
> women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballet et al., don't redeem what this
> particular civilization has wrought upon he world. The white race is the
> cancer of human history.>>
The statement is indeed hard to defend. Good or evil actions should not
be attributed to an entire race but to the people (or the states) that
committed them. The context which you didn't indicate was the Vietnam
war. Couldn't it be seen as an expression of justified outrage and anger
at that particular time?
>
> [note the lunatic imbecile including Marx alongside Pascal, Mozart and
> Shakespeare]
>
>
>
>>but "Illness as Metaphor" is quite brilliant.
>>
>
>
> Yes, and Hitler was a great house-painter.
No comment.
>
>
>>>Whatever the Iron Lady might have done/said, she is far, very far from
>>>aspiring at this level of idiocy, which the innocent-eyed, good-hearted,
>>>milk-giving gentle cow, when not ill, shouldn't be accused of.
>>>
>>Samir - do you ever ride the bus?
>>
>
>
> More to the point than my ever riding the bus, did you ever even attempt
> to realize that defending "interesting" racist idiots, only because the
> object of their bigotry and hatred happens to be "the white race", may be
> deigned, even from a man of your intelligence, as a manifestation of an
> "enfant terrible" who forgot to adolesce thoroughly?
Sontag is neither a racist nor a hate-monger (nor an idiot). The
steatement above was not designed to, nor was it likely to promote,
anti-white hatred. I've read most of her non-fiction (her fiction is
horrible) and it's clear that she is both intelligent and a decent
person. That quote doesn't seem representative of her thinking. (BTW: I
looked up the quote on google and got directed to a dozen or so of those
right-wing hate sites.)
Back to Maggie: "Anyone who rides the bus after 30 is a failure." Now
this is truly representative of that evil sociopath's life's work.
cheers,
Alain