mozart piano sonatas

[rlbfour]

Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

[Frank Berger]

On 2/10/2016 3:32 PM, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano
>

For a Mozart box set of sonatas, I suggest Mozart as the
composer.

[wkasimer]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, rlbfour wrote:

> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

I'll assume that you mean a single performer. Although I prefer them on fortepiano, Pires' set on DG is excellent.

Bill

[rlbfour]

Thank you I did mean a single performer. It must be something to relish having some snark from FB

[MiNe109]

On 2/10/16 3:18 PM, rlbfour wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:50:55 PM UTC-5, wkasimer wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, rlbfour
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I
>>> like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano
>>
>> I'll assume that you mean a single performer. Although I prefer
>> them on fortepiano, Pires' set on DG is excellent.

> Thank you I did mean a single performer. It must be something to
> relish having some snark from FB

The easiest acquisition is the $.99 Walter Klien mp3 box from Amazon,
assuming you listen to mp3s, of course.

I was challenged by the Arthur Schoonderwoerd set performed on several
early instruments or copies both for both the sound of the instruments
and his interpretive choices concerning graces notes/acciaccaturas.

Stephen

[Bozo]

>On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the >piano >forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

I have either not heard them, or only a couple, but there was some critical acclaim for Daniel-Ben Pienaar's cd set on Avie :

http://www.amazon.com/Piano-Sonatas-Mozart/dp/B00470HPGQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1455142974&sr=1-1&keywords=mozart+pienaar

Or same :

http://tinyurl.com/gsbtc7e

[fymido...@yahoo.com]

Strongly seconded. As a very different take, please try Anthony Newman's set or firtepiano. Full set was released on Newport Classics, partial set is available on a sony 2-disc set.

[Frank Berger]

It's called humor.

[sfr...@nycap.rr.com]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, rlbfour wrote:

> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

The two that I have, and like very much, are Walter Klien on a modern piano and Anthony Newman on a fortepiano. Newman might be unavailable, however.

MIFrost

[ljk...@aol.com]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:

> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

I've got all the Newman Mozart discs and find them enlightening. My first choice for Mozart is Leon McCawley's fairly recent set. Also Vlado Perlemuter's, recorded for Vox in France in the mid-1950s and reissued on another label a few years ago.

Larry Kart

[ljk...@aol.com]

The Perlemuter-Mozart set is on Musical Concepts.

Larry Kart

[markm...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:

> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

I own the Walter Klien set on Vox CDs and enjoy them for their warmth and intimacy. Every now and then, just for a jolt, I listen to some of the Glenn Gould Mozart sonatas via Spotify. They are unconventional, to say the least, but oddly entertaining. Maybe some day we will have technology that can edit out the humming.

Mark

[Bozo]

>On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:

> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a >modern piano

I have not heard these Arbiter Records 2-cd and 3-cd sets, which are again available , but only as a download at I-Tunes:

http://arbiterrecords.org/catalog/w-a-mozart-the-complete-piano-sonatas-vol-1/

These sets have received some high praise from some here in the past.

Interesting note ( date ?) from Arbiter about its current sets :

"Due to a recent discovery of another complete Mozart cycle ( by Horszowski ) we are evaluating the best performance of each sonata for a new and extended CD edition."

[Terry]

On Thursday, 11 February 2016 07:32:31 UTC+11, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

...that single composer being Mozart? I warmly recommend Paul Badura-Skoda, on Eurodisc.

[Edward A. Cowan]

I have three sets of the Mozart piano sonatas that I find very interesting:

Lili Kraus (Music & Arts CD-1001, five CDs, mono, originally recorded for the Haydn Society on LP)

Alicia de Larrocha (RCA 82876-55705-2, five CDs)

Peter Katin (Altari ALT 1026, five CDs).

My favorite of these is the set with Peter Katin, not only for the superb playing, but also for the very beautiful piano tone that this pianist achieves. --E.A.C.

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:

[Lionel Tacchini]

On 10.02.2016 21:32, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like
> the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

There used to be very good reviews for Christian Zacharias:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-1756-1791-Klaviersonaten-Nr-1-18/hnum/9829352

On the pianoforte, Brautigam is constantly interesting, involved, near
proto-Beethovenian, which is not always a given in this music:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Wolfgang-Amadeus-Mozart-1756-1791-Klaviersonaten-Nr-1-18/hnum/1966439

--
Lionel Tacchini

[MELMOTH]

Ce cher mammifère du nom de rlbfour nous susurrait, le mercredi
10/02/2016, dans nos oreilles grandes ouvertes mais un peu sales tout
de même, et dans le message
<ca9480df-72a8-42b7...@googlegroups.com>, les doux
mélismes suivants :

> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the
> piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

*Glenn Gould*...(Sony)

--
Car avec beaucoup de science, il y a beaucoup de chagrin ; et celui qui
accroît sa science accroît sa douleur.
[Ecclésiaste, 1-18]
MELMOTH - souffrant

[Lionel Tacchini]

On 11.02.2016 09:09, MELMOTH wrote:
> *Glenn Gould*...(Sony)

You perv'

--
Lionel Tacchini

[George P]

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 12:04:19 AM UTC-5, Edward A. Cowan wrote:
> I have three sets of the Mozart piano sonatas that I find very interesting:
>
> Lili Kraus (Music & Arts CD-1001, five CDs, mono, originally recorded for the Haydn Society on LP)

This would be my suggestion. Her Mozart is bold and alive.

George

[cooper...@gmail.com]

Another vote for Kraus (not quite complete) and the 99-cent Klien download. My favorite complete set in good sound is Eschenbach's (http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Piano-Sonatas-Wolfgang-Amadeus/dp/B00002DEH1).

AC

[Gerard]

"wkasimer" wrote in message
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Pires on DG Seconded, or thirded, or whatever.
Her earlier set (Erato / Brilliant Classics) is fine too.

For fortepiano Brautigam, Lubovsky or Van Oort.

[Gerard]

"Bozo" wrote in message
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>On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the
> >piano >forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

I have either not heard them, or only a couple,

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Not heard .... Nice "recommendation".

[Gerard]

"Frank Berger" wrote in message
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In your case you'ld better call it something else.

[wkasimer]

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:38:35 AM UTC-5, Gerard wrote:

> For fortepiano Brautigam, Lubovsky or Van Oort.

Who's Lubovsky? Do you mean Lubimov?

[Gerard]

"wkasimer" wrote in message
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On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:38:35 AM UTC-5, Gerard wrote:

> For fortepiano Brautigam, Lubovsky or Van Oort.

Who's Lubovsky? Do you mean Lubimov?

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You're right.
Thanks for the correction.

[Dan Fowler]

Walter Klien's performances introduced me to Mozart's sonatas, and I will
be forever grateful to him and Classical station KMFA for entrancing me
with this music. For a buck to download the set, I would definitely say go
for it!

These days I tend to listen most often to deLarrocha's set, and to
Perlemuter. Love the phrasing and pace in both sets.

I'm a big admirer of Brautigam's Beethoven sonatas and keep playing his
Mozart set on fortepiano, hoping they will grow on me. I haven't given up
on the set, but truthfully, the performances by Bezuidenhout have made a
more favorable initial impression.

Hope the OP finds a set that brings as much joy as these have given me.
Dan

[Ricardo Jimenez]

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:09:53 +0100, MELMOTH <th...@free.fr> wrote:

>Ce cher mammifère du nom de rlbfour nous susurrait, le mercredi
>10/02/2016, dans nos oreilles grandes ouvertes mais un peu sales tout
>de même, et dans le message
><ca9480df-72a8-42b7...@googlegroups.com>, les doux
>mélismes suivants :
>
>> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the
>> piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano
>
>*Glenn Gould*...(Sony)

How times have changed! Twenty five years ago Uchida's set was hailed
as the greatest Mozart ever and today it doesn't even get mentioned
(up to now) in this thread.

[Gerard]

"Ricardo Jimenez" wrote in message
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In previous threads about this subject she was mentioned equally IIRC.
BTW can you quote some posts that are 25 years old? I remember some reviews
form that era. They were jubilant.
But that changed rather quickly. A short-lasting hype.

[Herman]

Here's the reason why. On the internet, if you mention Uchida, you get shouted down by the usual pianophile blowhards.

[Gerard]

"Herman" wrote in message
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That's only one of the reasons.
(Didn't those pianophiles create the hype at first?)

BTW The opposite is Uchida is Hakkila (on pianoforte).

[hvid...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, rlbfour wrote:

> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

French pianist Michele Boegner's fine set is available, Amazon mp3.

[John Thomas]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 12:32:31 PM UTC-8, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

Not a 100% complete set, but reissued this year with additional sonatas and a few concertos, Friedrich Gulda's "The Mozart Tapes," Mozart by a musician whose art never seems to go out of style. http://tinyurl.com/j8pr79m 10 CD's for $31.21 on Amazon and maybe cheaper elsewhere.

[richard...@gmail.com]

Zacharias on EMI is excellent and cheap. There is also a set from EMI with his recordings of the Mozart concertos and sonatas. Gulda is good too. Both are available from hmv.co.jp, along with many others already mentioned here.

[music lover]

What's the trick for turning HMV Japan Japanese pages into English.

[Frank Berger]

On 2/11/2016 9:45 PM, music lover wrote:
> What's the trick for turning HMV Japan Japanese pages
> into English.
>

Have you tried clicking the button that says "English" at
the top of the screen? I'm not being snide. I see such a
button. It works for me. It seems they recently changed
the fonts. I don't remember what it looked like before but
it looks like Courier or Prestige Elite now.

[Frank Berger]

On 2/11/2016 9:45 PM, music lover wrote:

> What's the trick for turning HMV Japan Japanese pages into English.
>

You'd think they would remove the prominent notice about
system maintenance that took place in August 2015.

[howie...@btinternet.com]

Has anyone heard Siegbert Rampe? Clearly it won't suit the OP but it may suit me.

[Steve Emerson]

In article <fd116880-4a0e-4978...@googlegroups.com>,

I've always liked the Eschenbach set but I like it less than I used to.
It's been supplanted here by Zacharias on EMI, which fortunately was
repackaged awhile back into a slim cardboard box.

Agreed on Kraus, although I'd add that I find some of the sonatas she
did for Vox, in stereo, preferable to the earlier performances. They're
somewhat cumbersomely distributed across two two-fers, IIRC, with
concertos coupled in one case.

SE.

[richard...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:45:53 PM UTC-5, music lover wrote:
> What's the trick for turning HMV Japan Japanese pages into English.

As Frank said, the English button works. It does not change much of the text in descriptions of content or the comments on the recordings though. For that it helps to use google translate though the English that results can sometimes be virtually incomprehensible.
However, to identify a set you might be interested in you don't need all the detail.
hmv.co.jp/en

[howie...@btinternet.com]

Anyone (else) enjoying Siegfried Mauser's set? It's on spotify,

DK - please listen. It has your name written all over it.

[Johannes Roehl]

Am Freitag, 12. Februar 2016 01:50:57 UTC+1 schrieb richard...@gmail.com:

> Zacharias on EMI is excellent and cheap. There is also a set from EMI with his recordings of the Mozart concertos and sonatas. Gulda is good too. Both are available from hmv.co.jp, along with many others already mentioned here.

Gulda's "Mozart Tapes" are unfortunately not in very good sound as these were unofficial recordings. To my knowledge there are only two studio quality discs (one amadeo with 333? and 331, and one DG with 570, 576 and the c minor fantasy).
It's a great pity that there is no studio quality Gulda recording of these pieces (neither of most concertos). He supposedly played several Mozart sonata cycles (or at least a lot of them) in the late 1970s and early 80s in Munich and I find it really odd that no recordings from the Bavarian or Austrian Radio were ever published but the "Mozart tapes" seem to suggest that there is no better source material.

[sfr...@nycap.rr.com]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

I've since added Eschenbach to my collection and find it excellent. I've also just ordered (though not yet received) the recent Fazil Say set. Has anyone here heard that one? Anyone?

MIFrost

[howie...@btinternet.com]

I thought Say was over decorated and pretentious.

I've added Badura Skoda (Astrée) to my collection recently, I think it's the best Mozart piano sonatas recordings I've ever heard.

[Johannes Roehl]

Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 07:25:44 UTC+1 schrieb howie...@btinternet.com:
> I thought Say was over decorated and pretentious.
>
> I've added Badura Skoda (Astrée) to my collection recently, I think it's the best Mozart piano sonatas recordings I've ever heard.

this one is on old keyboards, isn't it?
I had a late 1970s? Eurodisc box with Badura-Skoda on a modern piano and found it not very special so I sold it (admittedly I am not a huge fan of most of the pieces).

[sfr...@nycap.rr.com]

On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 1:25:44 AM UTC-5, howie...@btinternet.com wrote:
> I thought Say was over decorated and pretentious.
>

Jed Distler (Gramophone) implied that. American Record Guide gave it a rave. I thought I'd give a listen.

MIFrost

[Frank Lekens]

sfr...@nycap.rr.com schreef op 23-2-2017 13:40:

It's certainly different. I wouldn't want it to be my only set, but I
like it.

--
Frank Lekens

http://fmlekens.home.xs4all.nl/

[linde...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 3:32:31 PM UTC-5, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

Re. Uchida, I attended her Tully Hall debut years ago, playing all the Mozart sonatas in 2 evenings. She was new, fresh, and interesting. In the ensuing years, her playing has changed completely,in a way that does not please me. Pity.

Mort Linder

[sfr...@nycap.rr.com]

On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:51:38 AM UTC-5, Frank Lekens wrote:
>
> >
> It's certainly different. I wouldn't want it to be my only set, but I
> like it.
>
> --
> Frank Lekens
>
> http://fmlekens.home.xs4all.nl/

Exactly what I am hoping for. :-)

MIFrost

[Adam Dubin]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

Although he is not popular on rmcr, I have always loved Andras Schiff's 1980 Decca recordings, and have the slim-line box set.

I have Walter Klien on Murray Hill LPs (with the variations and miscellaneous pieces) and have liked them for about as long. I think the sonatas were released years ago on Vox boxes.

I recently discovered Wanda Landowska's mid-50s RCA LPs of several of the early-mid-period sonatas (on piano) and adore them. I don't think these are available on CD, but you can audition some of them on youtube.

[meyers...@gmail.com]

The complete Klien Mozart solo piano recordings are available via digital download for about 9 dollars

[Al Eisner]

I find I need something more in this music than what many performers bring.
Say certainly brings something different (almost Beethovenian), and I
rather like the few I've heard. My single favorite recording of Mozart
sonatas is a single CD of the first three by Robert Levin on fortepiano(s),
Deutsche Harmonia Mundi. That release was promisingly labelled "Volume 1",
but so far as I can tell there was never any follow-up. Maybe that older
Badura-Skoda is worth trying on somewhat similar grounds.
--
Al Eisner

[sfr...@nycap.rr.com]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 5:29:11 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
>
> Say certainly brings something different (almost Beethovenian), and I
> rather like the few I've heard. My single favorite recording of Mozart
> sonatas is a single CD of the first three by Robert Levin on fortepiano(s),
> Deutsche Harmonia Mundi. That release was promisingly labelled "Volume 1",
> but so far as I can tell there was never any follow-up. Maybe that older
> Badura-Skoda is worth trying on somewhat similar grounds.
> --
> Al Eisner

Why not try Newman? https://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Fortepiano-Sonatas-Anthony-Newman/dp/B000024O8V

The price is certainly right, he plays on the fortepiano and the recording is full of vibrancy and personality.

MIFrost

[james.g...@gmail.com]

Beat me to it. The six early sonatas come to life!

[sfr...@nycap.rr.com]

Well I've given it a listen and it's excellent, IMO. Nothing wayward here at all. Full of personality and very well played.

MIFrost

[Bozo]

>On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 2:32:31 PM UTC-6, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a >modern piano

I don't have, not sure ever heard, any of Barenboim's recordings of these sonatas. Anyone here heard ?TIA. I had mixed reactions to his DGG lp's of the first 15 LvB sonatas.

[gggg gggg]

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 12:32:31 PM UTC-8, rlbfour wrote:
> Any recommendations for a box set by a single composer. While I like the piano forte I prefer in the end a modern piano

Fujita:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwmusic/article/Sony-Classical-to-Release-Mao-Fujitas-New-Recording-of-Mozarts-Complete-Piano-Sonatas-20220527