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Looking for Mendelssohn's St. Paul (Paulus) sung in English

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Rover

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Aug 11, 2004, 10:35:03 AM8/11/04
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Our group is going to begin rehearsals for this work in English, to be sung
in Fall '05. I am looking for a recording of it in English. Can anybody
recommend one and provide a link to the seller?

We are also doing Haydn's Creation in English in Spring of '04. So, I would
also like to find an english recording of that too.

These works in this language are not easy things to find... Thanks for your
help!

Bob Reith

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Aug 11, 2004, 1:01:35 PM8/11/04
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Rover wrote

>Our group is going to begin rehearsals for this work in English, to be sung
>in Fall '05. I am looking for a recording of it in English. Can anybody
>recommend one and provide a link to the seller?

I've not heard of a Mendelssohn Paulus in English. Would be interested to know
of one as well.

>We are also doing Haydn's Creation in English in Spring of '04. So, I would
>also like to find an english recording of that too.
>
>These works in this language are not easy things to find... Thanks for your
>help!

This is not an endorsement but rather an answer to the question. There is a
Haydn Creation by Robert Shaw/Atlanta in English on Telarc CD-80298.

Bob

Bob Reith

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Aug 11, 2004, 1:32:08 PM8/11/04
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I wrote

>This is not an endorsement but rather an answer to the question. There is a
>Haydn Creation by Robert Shaw/Atlanta in English on Telarc CD-80298.

To clarify, the absence of endorsement is not intended to be a negative mark --
I should have been clearer and stated that I haven't listened to the piece
carefully enough (yet) to form the basis for an opinion.

Bob

Matthew B. Tepper

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Aug 11, 2004, 3:38:09 PM8/11/04
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> Rover wrote
>
>> Our group is going to begin rehearsals for this work in English, to be
>> sung in Fall '05. I am looking for a recording of it in English. Can
>> anybody recommend one and provide a link to the seller?
>
> I've not heard of a Mendelssohn Paulus in English. Would be interested
> to know of one as well.

In what language is Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos' recording sung?

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Bob Reith

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Aug 11, 2004, 4:29:43 PM8/11/04
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>> Rover wrote
>>
>>> Our group is going to begin rehearsals for this work in English, to be
>>> sung in Fall '05. I am looking for a recording of it in English. Can
>>> anybody recommend one and provide a link to the seller?

Bob replied


>> I've not heard of a Mendelssohn Paulus in English. Would be interested
>> to know of one as well.

Matthew added


>In what language is Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos' recording sung?
>

Deutsch, with Dusseldorf (EMI).

Bob

Alan Hayward

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Aug 11, 2004, 4:35:54 PM8/11/04
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On 11 Aug 2004, Bob Reith wrote:

> I've not heard of a Mendelssohn Paulus in English. Would be
> interested to know of one as well.

I can't recall any version in English either. There have been so few
recordings of Paulus over the years that one of us should have noticed!

> This is not an endorsement but rather an answer to the question.
> There is a Haydn Creation by Robert Shaw/Atlanta in English on Telarc
> CD-80298.

Alternatives from Christopher Hogwood (L'Oiseau-Lyre 4303972) and Simon
Rattle (EMI 7541592). The Hogwood version uses a boy's choir as well as
adults, the Rattle version adults. I have only heard excerpts from the
Hogwood version, which uses larger forces than one might expect. What I
heard (Part 1) was very good. I haven't heard anything from the EMI or
Telarc sets.

There is also a version from Newport Classics (NPD85627-2) conducted by, I
believe, Johannes Somary.

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Alan Hayward

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Aug 11, 2004, 4:39:10 PM8/11/04
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On 11 Aug 2004, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:

> In what language is Rafael Frühbeck de Burgos' recording sung?

Not heard it but, given the Düsseldorf forces, I would think it is in
German.

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Alan Hayward

Rajeev Aloysius

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Aug 12, 2004, 5:55:45 AM8/12/04
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Rover <o...@thevillage.net> wrote in message news:<WdqdnYmNLp0...@megapath.net>...

For the Haydn Creation in English, Simon Rattle on EMI (non-HIP),
Hogwood on L'oiseau Lyre/Decca/London.

Rajeev Aloysius

J. Faber

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Aug 12, 2004, 1:59:46 PM8/12/04
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Rover <o...@thevillage.net> wrote in message news:<WdqdnYmNLp0...@megapath.net>...

The only English version of St. Paul that I know of is on Chandos
directed by Hickox. I owned it briefly - I didn't like it much
(especially the tenor soloist, if I recall correctly) and subsequently
dropped it, as I did with his recording of Elijah.

The English version of the Creation I enjoy most is on O-L directed by
Hogwood. I very much like the newish Hengelbrock on DHM, too - but
it's in German.

John

Alan Hayward

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Aug 12, 2004, 4:19:39 PM8/12/04
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On 12 Aug 2004, J. Faber wrote:

> The only English version of St. Paul that I know of is on Chandos
> directed by Hickox. I owned it briefly - I didn't like it much
> (especially the tenor soloist, if I recall correctly) and subsequently
> dropped it, as I did with his recording of Elijah.

Er.. The Hickox version is in German. I just checked the very short excerpt
available on the Chandos web site, the first half of "Jerusalem! Die du
tötest die Propheten . . .", and that was unquestionably sung in German.

J. Faber

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Aug 13, 2004, 10:49:03 AM8/13/04
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Alan Hayward <alan_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9543D8F2CA37Ba...@217.32.252.50>...

My apologies - owned it more briefly than I thought. Would've thought
I'd remember the language, though...

Rajeev Aloysius

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Aug 13, 2004, 11:58:25 PM8/13/04
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recma...@hotmail.com (J. Faber) wrote in message > > Er.. The Hickox version is in German. I just checked the very short excerpt
> > available on the Chandos web site, the first half of "Jerusalem! Die du
> > tötest die Propheten . . .", and that was unquestionably sung in German.
>
> My apologies - owned it more briefly than I thought. Would've thought
> I'd remember the language, though...

It might be some time before we see a recording of St. Paul in
English. It took long enough for the HIP version of Elijah on Decca
(Paul Daniel) to come out.

-Rajeev

Rover

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Aug 14, 2004, 8:56:52 PM8/14/04
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Rajeev Aloysius wrote:

Many thanks, all, for the referrals. I understand the points made by many
re: caliber of performance. My need for the English, though, is as a study
aid over the next several months prior to performance.

Appreciated!
-R.

db4him

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Nov 27, 2005, 2:47:37 PM11/27/05
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There is a brand-new English version of St. Paul now available. Info can be
found at www.stpaulinenglish.com.

Matthew B. Tepper

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> There is a brand-new English version of St. Paul now available. Info can
> be found at www.stpaulinenglish.com.

Is there also an English version of Minneapolis?

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Sam

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Nov 28, 2005, 8:56:15 AM11/28/05
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:53:33 GMT, "Matthew B. Tepper"
<oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:

>"db4him" <dba...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the following letters
>to be typed in
>news:804565bace305e0f...@localhost.talkaboutthemusic.com:
>
>> There is a brand-new English version of St. Paul now available. Info can
>> be found at www.stpaulinenglish.com.
>
>Is there also an English version of Minneapolis?

Of course, this has to be a fake Tepper. The real one would never
have stooped so low.

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