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Luigi Cherubini's Hymne du Panthéon of 1794 & Beethoven's Fifth

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Mark Zimmer

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Aug 12, 2014, 12:15:57 PM8/12/14
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I understand that Arnold Schmitz theorized in 1928, and John Eliot Gardiner in the August Gramophone makes the same assertion, that the famous motif of Beethoven's Fifth was a sub rosa reference to Luigi Cherubini's Hymne du Panthéon of 1794. That seemed like an interesting notion, but I am coming up empty on any recordings of Cherubini's Hymne. Does anyone know of any recordings/broadcasts/etc. of this piece? There are a couple recordings of Cherubini's Hymne à la Victoire, but that's different. Any assistance greatly appreciated.

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Mark

MiNe109

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Aug 12, 2014, 4:18:16 PM8/12/14
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On 8/12/14, 11:15 AM, Mark Zimmer wrote:
> I understand that Arnold Schmitz theorized in 1928, and John Eliot
> Gardiner in the August Gramophone makes the same assertion, that the
> famous motif of Beethoven's Fifth was a sub rosa reference to Luigi
> Cherubini's Hymne du Panth�on of 1794. That seemed like an
> interesting notion, but I am coming up empty on any recordings of
> Cherubini's Hymne. Does anyone know of any
> recordings/broadcasts/etc. of this piece? There are a couple
> recordings of Cherubini's Hymne � la Victoire, but that's different.
> Any assistance greatly appreciated.

It might be in here:

http://www.amazon.com/Les-Grands-Hymnes-Revolutionnaires-Erato/dp/B000009IGC/ref=cm_cr_pr_pdt_img_top?ie=UTF8

Stephen

Lionel Tacchini

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Aug 12, 2014, 4:44:23 PM8/12/14
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On 12.08.2014 18:15, Mark Zimmer wrote:
> I understand that Arnold Schmitz theorized in 1928, and John Eliot
> Gardiner in the August Gramophone makes the same assertion, that the
> famous motif of Beethoven's Fifth was a sub rosa reference to Luigi
> Cherubini's Hymne du Panth�on of 1794. That seemed like an
> interesting notion, but I am coming up empty on any recordings of
> Cherubini's Hymne. Does anyone know of any
> recordings/broadcasts/etc. of this piece? There are a couple
> recordings of Cherubini's Hymne � la Victoire, but that's different.
> Any assistance greatly appreciated.

Spotify has it: http://open.spotify.com/track/2Q1DKZ8EAVdTjjpB583FnL

Ricardo Jimenez

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Aug 20, 2014, 2:33:47 PM8/20/14
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When I try that link I get a bad gateway message. Using the Spotify
client on my computer, I have found the disc containing it: Muique de
la R�volution Francaise, but when I try to play it, Spotify says it is
not available.

Lionel Tacchini

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Aug 20, 2014, 3:28:30 PM8/20/14
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> client on my computer, I have found the disc containing it: Musique de
> la R�volution Francaise, but when I try to play it, Spotify says it is
> not available.
>

I could play it. They sing about the blood of kings which had just been
spilled and glorify those who had died doing the dirty jobs of the
revolution.
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