Beethoven piano sonatas, HIP
MIFrost
Pathetique on fortepiano. It was terrific. I got to thinking about getting
the Beethoven sonatas on fortepiano (pianoforte?). What's available and
what's recommendable?
MIFrost
Bob Lombard
Kipnis also recorded the "Moonlight" on fortepiano, maybe not in print.
Very effective 1st mvt.
Considering the evolution of the piano during the span of the sonatas, a
set using at least three different fortepianos ought to be interesting.
bl
william kasimer
"Bob Lombard" <thorste...@vermontel.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:37:45 GMT, MIFrost wrote:
>
>> The other day my local radio station played Kipnis' version of the
>> Pathetique on fortepiano. It was terrific. I got to thinking about
>> getting
>> the Beethoven sonatas on fortepiano (pianoforte?). What's available
>> and
>> what's recommendable?
> Kipnis also recorded the "Moonlight" on fortepiano, maybe not in
> print.
Both sonatas were on a CD called "The Young Beethoven". I think that
it's OOP - it's not even listed at Amazon.
I enjoy the CD's of Lubin (L'Oiseau Lyre) and Newman (Newport) but
these, like the Kipnis, only contain the "greatest hit" sonatas.
There was a complete set played by a variety of pianists, but I found
it pretty dull and got rid of it.
Bill
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William D. Kasimer
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LaVirtuosa
>There was a complete set played by a variety of pianists, but I found
>it pretty dull and got rid of it.
Beethoven, as you know, wasn't really satisfied with the instruments he had
anyway; his imagination heard more than the keyboard could ever deliver. In
fact, it's possible that *no* piano could ever deliver his concept of sound.
*************Val
Thomas Wood
Malcom Binns recorded the cycle on L'Oiseau Lyre in the early '80s using
several different original fortepianos.
It was never re-released on CD. Some of the pianos sounded dreadful. But
actually Binns' playing was pretty good.
Tom Wood
Simon Roberts
I don't think there's a recommendable complete set; most of the performances in
the Claves set by Bilson and his students are horribly tame (though not quite as
dull as the first HIP integral, Macolm Binns on Oiseau Lyre, LP only).
Badura-Skoda often has the right ideas, but his technique isn't always up to the
challenge. The pianist who has made the largest number of very good recordings
is Paul Komen on Globe, a series that appears to have been abandoned somewhere
along the way (about six discs were released). I understand that Brautigam's
going to tackle them all for BIS; if his Haydn's any indication, provided the
recordings aren't too resonant this may be an impressive set (his old disc of
Op. 2 for Globe or Etc (I forget which) was pretty good).
They're now long out of print, I think, but look out for a used copy of Peter
Serkin's wonderful disc of the last three on Pro Arte (and, on LP, his fantastic
Hammerklavier, which sadly never made it to CD). It's a shame that Demus's
magnificent recoriding of Op. 110 lost some of its bite in the CD transfer; the
LP was better. Anthony Newman's single disc is pretty good. There are also
discs by Lubin and Lubimov for when you're in the mood for Beethoven played
about as harmlessly as possible....
Simon
Riccardo N.
recently I made a research in the Google archives on this topic, I was
particulary interested in comments about Melvin Tan's recordings on Virgin
Veritas, just reissued at a very cheap price.
I found "only" a comment ("boring") from Mr.S.Roberts (who I read always
with great interest) ; any other opinion?
R.
Michael Smith
>
> recently I made a research in the Google archives on this topic, I was
> particulary interested in comments about Melvin Tan's recordings on Virgin
> Veritas, just reissued at a very cheap price.
> I found "only" a comment ("boring") from Mr.S.Roberts (who I read always
> with great interest) ; any other opinion?
I agree with Simon. Tan's not a terribly interesting player; we're not
at all well-served as far as HIP Beethoven piano sonatas are
concerned. Badura Skoda's probably my favourite, despite problems with
his technique. Brautigam's forthcoming recordings should really be
worth looking out for, however.
Michael
Ian Pace
"Michael Smith" <michaels...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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available on CD (or of Haydn and Mozart, for that matter). I heard rumours
that Andreas Staier was going to record a complete Beethoven cycle at some
point - if that happens, it'll be extremely worth waiting for. Of those
recordings that exist, I'm keen on Bilson, Komen, Immerseel and Demus.
Badura-Skoda's recordings are mixed, but some of them are well worth it
(including his Hammerklavier, also the disc of the last three sonatas).
Brautigam should be good; like Simon, I do hope BIS don't employ the sort of
over-resonant acoustic that they used for his Haydn discs, though.
Do look out for Staier's Haydn discs if you see them (on DHM, but all
deleted now, I think). Fabulous stuff, if with a little too much rubato for
my tastes. His new Mozart disc is nothing short of incredible.
Best,
Ian