Impressionism beyond Debussy and Ravel
LanceRocke
But are there any other great atmospheric, impressionist pieces NOT
written by Debussy and Ravel? Perhaps I should look to film scores. No
flames please: I realize Debussy abhorred having his work described as
"impressionist."
Many thanks,
LanceRocke
jh
LanceRocke wrote in message <376939...@earthlink.net>...
Try Roussel's Symphony no 1 "Le poeme de la foret" [ not the other
symphonies] available on Erato.
jh
Bob Lombard
>Try Roussel's Symphony no 1 "Le poeme de la foret" [ not the other
>symphonies] available on Erato.
>
>jh
>
damage.
bl
JHenry1975
Joseph Henry
Andy Evans
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Bob Lombard
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>Well, there's Les Six to start with. That's six.
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2nd and 3rd, but that was enough. Unpleasant to my shell-like ears, but I
recovered.
bl
Peter Dorman
others have said. Charles Koechlin is an obvious choice. Much of
Messiaen seems to me to be in the impressionist vein as well. (Even his
"bird-brained" scores have wonderful impressionist touches.)
Peter
Donald Rice
impressionist. Among the pieces I know are the White Peacock, The
Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan, Poem for flute and strings. Titles are
approximate. The music is irresistible.
Don
Marc Perman
>Well, there's Les Six to start with. That's six.
>Andy Evans, email: arts.ps...@cwcom.net
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Good one, Andy, but the question was about impressionist works, not
composers. So multiply those six by the number of works they
wrote....
Marc Perman
>
Raymond Hall
I've been meaning to get some Messiaen, and have been eyeing a couple of
"Vingt regards sur l'enfant Jesus" CDs, one of which is on Naxos I believe,
by Hakon Austbo. Any thoughts on this piece, and good performances? Also
from memory I believe it was Serge Baudo who recorded "Et exspecto
resurrectionem mortuorum" (I know I had this on LP) which was designed to be
performed outdoors. Messiaen was a visionary wasn't he, or another way of
saying mystically inspired, which is another way of ........
Anyway, he loved bird-song.
Regards,
Ray Hall, Sydney
Marc Perman
The Austbo 20 Regards are superb, though to be fair I haven't heard
any other recordings of this music.
Marc Perman
George Murnu
>
> I love la mer, faune, le tombeau, daphnis et chloe, etc. Who doesn't?
> But are there any other great atmospheric, impressionist pieces NOT
> written by Debussy and Ravel? Perhaps I should look to film scores. No
> flames please: I realize Debussy abhorred having his work described as
> "impressionist."
>
> LanceRocke
Enescu's 3rd Orchestral suite was recently described by the Grammophone
magazine as a "brilliant synthetis of Debussy and Bartok". I couldn't
have said it better.
Regards,
George
Adrian Hunter
>
> Peter Dorman wrote:
>
> > I just picked up on this thread and apologize if I'm repeating what
> > others have said. Charles Koechlin is an obvious choice. Much of
> > Messiaen seems to me to be in the impressionist vein as well. (Even his
> > "bird-brained" scores have wonderful impressionist touches.)
> >
> > Peter
>
> I've been meaning to get some Messiaen, and have been eyeing a couple of
> "Vingt regards sur l'enfant Jesus" CDs, one of which is on Naxos I believe,
> by Hakon Austbo. Any thoughts on this piece, and good performances? Also
> from memory I believe it was Serge Baudo who recorded "Et exspecto
> resurrectionem mortuorum" (I know I had this on LP) which was designed to be
> performed outdoors. Messiaen was a visionary wasn't he, or another way of
> saying mystically inspired, which is another way of ........
> Anyway, he loved bird-song.
>
>
> Ray Hall, Sydney
I would recommend trying Messiaen's organ music, if you're not
averse to the instrument (oddly, some people are!) The early
works like "Apparition de l'Eglise Eternelle" or "Diptyque" are
the most impressionistic (in some ways), at any rate the
influence of Debussy is more obvious. The most significant works
of the earlier period (pre-WWII) are "L'Ascension" (an orchestral
version exists which was written first but has a different third
movement!), and "La Nativite du Seigneur". Be prepared for some
slow-moving music, but also savour the richness of the harmonic
colouring (eg mvt #5 in La Nativite). Having said that, when
Messiaen writes an exuberant movement, you will know about it
(mvt #3 of L'Ascension, or #9 of La Nativite, or the wonderfully
jazzy #6 in the later cycle "Les Corps Glorieux"). Anyway the
effects can be wonderfully hypnotic/transporting/etc.
(Recordings: Messiaen himself on EMI is a worthy addition, but
the sound isn't great, the organ isn't always in tune, and there
are mistakes. Still indispensable though :-) Jennifer Bate on
Unicorn is another good choice.)
These works really show the foundation of Messiaen's style which
will be easy to hear in the later works, although there's no
birdsong yet.
When it comes to the orchestral stuff, you must have the
Turangalila Symphony (Chailly on Decca is very good and improves
every time I hear it).
Adrian
Lehobe
Dukas' "Arianne et Barbe-bleu" suites. I can think of no reason for the
absence of these works from the repertories of our "Big 5" orchestras other
than the sloth of routine and unimaginative program-making which seems to show
little sign of abating, more's the pity. Our best hopes, it seems to me, are
Michael Tilson-Thomas and/or Essa-Pekka Salonen and their respective California
orchestras. I agree with your listed favorites as well as all of the
suggestions make so far in this thread. Here's hoping...
Yours sincerely,
Les Bernstein
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Marc Perman
Second the Roussel Le festin de l'araignee, as well as his Bacchus et
Ariane. There's a wonderful recording of both pieces complete, not
the suites, on Chandos with Yan Pascal Tortelier/BBC Phil.
Marc Perman
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lance...@earthlink.net wrote:
> I love la mer, faune, le tombeau, daphnis et chloe, etc. Who doesn't?
> But are there any other great atmospheric, impressionist pieces NOT
> written by Debussy and Ravel? Perhaps I should look to film scores. No
> flames please: I realize Debussy abhorred having his work described as
> "impressionist."
>
> Many thanks,
> LanceRocke
>
>
There are certainly a large number of relatively unknown but
excellent works composed in this musical style. Some composers have
been mentioned before. I agree with the Koechlin but not the Les Six
(with the exception of maybe Honegger's Sym. #4). Or you could try
Stravinsky's Firebird. I would also suggest any work by Paul Le Flem,
Andre Caplet, Cras, Florent Schmitt and Roland-Ducasse. Or early works
by Ibert and Roussel. Then there are a few works by Pierne. If you
need a detailed list of works e-mail me.
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not an impressionist piece) is Gustav Holst's Neptune--The Mystic from The
Planets.
Michael
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