Jan Lisiecki, pianist
Oscar
1995? I know he has a disc of the E Minor Concerto Op. 21 on the in-
house label of the Chopin Institute in Warsaw (Lisiecki's parents are
Polish). He is playing at Barnum Hall at Santa Monica High School
with the New West Symphony this weekend. I think I'll go, cheap seats
for $25, why not. Thx in advance.
Sunday, March 13, 2011
New West Symphony
Boris Brott, conductor
Jan Lisiecki, piano
Beethoven Overture to Fidelio, Opus 72
Mozart Concerto No. 21 in C Major for Piano & Orchestra, K. 467
Chopin Concerto No. 1 in E Minor, Opus 11
Chopin Grand Polonaise brillante in E-flat Major, Opus 22
pianomaven
GO!
TD
Dufus
> On Mar 10, 11:54 pm, Oscar <oscaredwardwilliam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, go, especially 3 works at the price.
Oscar
>
> > Anyone familiar with this young Canadian pianist, born March 23,
> > 1995? I know he has a disc of the E Minor Concerto Op. 21 on the in-
> > house label of the Chopin Institute in Warsaw (Lisiecki's parents are
> > Polish). He is playing at Barnum Hall at Santa Monica High School
> > with the New West Symphony this weekend. I think I'll go, cheap seats
> > for $25, why not. Thx in advance.
>
> > Jan Lisiecki, piano
>
> > Beethoven Overture to Fidelio, Opus 72
> > Mozart Concerto No. 21 in C Major for Piano & Orchestra, K. 467
> > Chopin Concerto No. 1 in E Minor, Opus 11
> > Chopin Grand Polonaise brillante in E-flat Major, Opus 22
>
The Chopin E Minor Concerto was unbelievable. He has nothing more to
learn in this work. Wow! The Grande Polonaise brilliante and his
second encore, Waltz Op. 64 No. 2 in C-sharp minor, were sublime.
What a player!! The Mozart PC was okay -- to be honest, I dozed off
during the Andante (late Saturday night), but I was not there for
Wolfgang. Judging what I saw and heard today from Center Balcony at
Barnum Hall with perfect angle of keyboard (straight on), I think Jan
Lisiecki is a win/place/show at Chopin Competition 2015. He's gotta
be. Awesome technique, firm grasp of Chopin's poetry and sublime
rubato and dynamic gradation. This was better than the last Chopin E
Minor Concerto I saw: Ingrid Fliter with LA Chamber Orchestra in
2009. And Lisiecki is only 15. Wow again!!
Oscar
From Calgary Sun http://tiny.cc/1bm2y
Record contract for prodigy
By LISA WILTON, CALGARY SUN
Last Updated: March 4, 2011 12:03am
Some kids get a cake when they turn 16, others get a car.
But one Calgary teen received something even better for his Sweet 16 —
an international recording contract.
Jan Lisiecki is already considered one of the world’s top young
pianists having won the 2010 Révélations Radio-Canada Musique and the
2011 Jeune Soliste des Radios Francophones. And in 2009, he became the
youngest winner in the OSM Standard Life Competition’s 75-year
history.
But signing an exclusive recording contract with leading classical
music label, Deutsche Grammophon, has been one of the biggest
highlights of his young life.
“I‘m very happy,” he says.
“This will be very interesting for me and a learning experience for
me.”
Lisiecki, who turns 16 on March 23, is the youngest artist on Deutsche
Grammophon’s extensive and impressive roster. The label has been
around for more than a century and over the years has released albums
by such classical luminaries as Sarah Bernhardt, Yo-Yo Ma, Luciano
Pavarotti, Cecilia Bartoli and Measha Brueggergosman,
“Who doesn’t have that yellow label in their collection?” asks
Lisiecki, who will graduate from Western Canada high school this
spring. Lisiecki will attend music college in Toronto in September,
but will be constantly on the move this summer.
He’s making his debut with the BBC Symphony and appearing with the
Goteborgs Symfoniker in Sweden and the Leipzig Radio Symphony in
Germany.
If that doesn’t keep him busy enough, Lisiecki is also heading to
Japan for recitals, and Europe, where he’ll perform in Berlin,
Brussels, Vienna, Zurich and Lisbon. The classical musician, who began
playing piano at the age of five and made his orchestral debut at age
nine, has already accomplished a lot, but says he still has plenty of
goals.
“I think the beauty of music is that you can never stop learning,” he
says. “You can never find perfect. It’s something that’s much bigger
than me and it’s amazing that I’m able to take part in that.”
Lisiecki is a UNICEF youth ambassador and on Friday he’s hosting the
third annual UNICEF Benefit Concert at The Eckhardt-Gramatte Hall in
the University of Calgary’s Rosza Centre. He’ll be joined by fellow
pianist Scott MacIsaac and violinist Eva Aronian. Tickets are $35 ($25
for seniors/students) and can be purchased by calling 403-270-2857 or
at the door.
Oscar
DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON SIGNS EXCLUSIVE RECORDING-AGREEMENT WITH CANADIAN
PIANIST
Hamburg, February 2011.
Deutsche Grammophon is pleased to announce the signing of an exclusive
recording-agreement with the young Canadian pianist Jan Lisiecki.
Already recognized around the world for his poetic and mature playing,
Lisiecki has received several awards, including the 2010 Révélations
Radio-Canada Musique and the 2011 Jeune Soliste des Radios
Francophones. In 2009 he won the Grand Prize in the OSM Standard Life
Competition, becoming the youngest winner in the competition’s 75-year
history.
Jan Lisiecki will be the soloist of the 2011/2012 season opening
concert of the Orchestre de Paris under Paavo Järvi at Salle Pleyel.
Other upcoming concert highlights include debuts with the BBC Symphony
at the Barbican in London, the Leipzig Radio Symphony at Leipzig
Gewandhaus and the Göteborgs Symfoniker. He will return to Japan with
recitals in Tokyo, Nagoya, and Osaka. European recital debuts include
Berlin, Brussels, Frankfurt, Gstaad, Hamburg, Lisbon, Vienna, and
Zurich. In summer 2011 he will make his festival debuts at the Verbier
and Radio France Festivals. Recent and upcoming engagements in North
America include recital debuts in Chicago and Seattle, as well as
orchestral appearances with the Toronto Symphony under Peter Oundjian
and Montreal’s Orchestre Métropolitain under its music director,
Yannick Nézet-Séguin.
“With Deutsche Grammophon’s history of over 100 years, it is amazing
to look through the catalogue and see the names of all the great
artists that have some of their artistic souls with us,” said Jan
Lisiecki. “To be with DG makes me feel happy, excited, and privileged
– it also reinforces the idea that music is larger than any single
artist – as DG encompasses the entire spectrum of this art.”
Michael Lang, President of Deutsche Grammophon, says: “Jan Lisiecki is
a phenomenal young artist who combines exceptional maturity with a
rare dedication and joy in music-making. Given his passion for hard
work, Jan is certain to reach his ambitious goals. We are pleased to
welcome him to our family of pianists.”
Lisiecki’s debut recording for Deutsche Grammophon will be Mozart’s
Piano Concertos no. 20, K. 466 and no. 21, K. 467.
Born in Calgary in 1995 to Polish parents, he has played at Carnegie
Hall, the Warsaw Philharmonic Concert Hall, Seoul Arts Centre, and
Salle Cortot – and has shared the stage with Emanuel Ax, James Ehnes,
Yo-Yo Ma, and Pinchas Zukerman. He has performed throughout Canada, in
China, England, France, Germany, Guatemala, Italy, Japan, Korea,
Poland, Scotland, and the United States. In 2010, Jan was asked to
substitute for Nelson Freire in four concerts in France. He opened the
Seoul International Music Festival in Korea and performed for HM Queen
Elizabeth and an audience of 100,000 on Parliament Hill in Ottawa.
The Fryderyk Chopin Institute releasedJan Lisiecki’s live performances
of both Chopin concertos with Sinfonia Varsovia and Howard Shelley in
early 2010. The CD was awarded the prestigious Diapason Découverte in
May 2010. Diapason describes Lisiecki as “an unmannered virtuoso
already with virile and, above all, irresistibly natural playing”. The
BBC Music Magazine commended “Lisiecki’s mature musicality”, and his
“sensitively distilled” interpretation of the contrasting concerti,
playing “with sparkling technique as well as idiomatic pathos” noting
that “even in a crowded CD catalogue, this refreshingly unhyped debut
release is one to celebrate”.
Also a dedicated performer of chamber music, he has collaborated with
the New Zealand String Quartet, Quatuor Ébène, and the Penderecki
String Quartet, appearing at festivals including Auvers-sur-Oise,
Menton, Merano, Seoul, Warsaw “Chopin and his Europe”, and many others
in Canada and the USA.
Jan Lisiecki’s performances have been broadcast on CBC Canada, BBC
Radio, Austrian Radio, French Radio, German Radio, Luxembourg Radio,
Polish Radio, as well as on French Television 3 and on TV 1 and 2 in
Poland. He was featured in the CBC Next! series as one of the most
promising young artists in Canada, and in the Joe Schlesinger 2009 CBC
National News documentary The Reluctant Prodigy.
Jan performs frequently for various charity organizations, including
the David Foster Foundation, the Polish Humanitarian Organization, and
the Wish Upon a Star Foundation. In June 2008 he was appointed a
National Youth Representative by UNICEF Canada.
Having just graduated from high school in Calgary, Jan Lisiecki will
be entering the Glenn Gould School of Music in Toronto on a full
scholarship in September 2011.
Jan Lisiecki is represented worldwide by IMG Artists.
Dufus
> And Lisiecki is only 15.> Wow again!!
Thanks for the review. Some 15-year olds feel they have nothing more
to learn, so your mature assessment valuable here. Some may also say
the Chopin E Minor is not the biggest challenge, compared to Mozart K.
467 he also played.
With his name and heritage, he may get an automatic pass into the
Finals at Warsaw. Did the program notes say who are his teachers ?
Nick Sun
I have his Chopin concerti disc. It's fairly good for his young age.
Will he become the next Kissin? Or next Lang Lang or next Yuja Wang?
We don't know yet. But he does understand the importance of
"interpretation". It's also nice for him to be discovered in such a
young age, and as a result of his concert engagement, like a few other
young pianists that been courted in the teen's, he does need to attend
another brutal and yet pointless competition when he is in his
twenties again. That to me is what is more important, away from the
competition scene, and forget to please the judges and just to play
the music. Time will tell how he will evolve, but for now, he has a
very good start to win himself a concertizing career.
Gerard
> Lisiecki signs with DG!!
>
>
> Lisiecki, who turns 16 on March 23, is the youngest artist on Deutsche
> Grammophon’s extensive and impressive roster.
Not exactly.
The brothers Jussen were 13 and 17 years old when they signed a contract with DG
exactly a year ago.
pianomaven
> On Mar 11, 12:54 am, Oscar <oscaredwardwilliam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Anyone familiar with this young Canadian pianist, born March 23,
> > 1995? I know he has a disc of the E Minor Concerto Op. 21 on the in-
> > Polish). He is playing at Barnum Hall at Santa Monica High School
> > with the New West Symphony this weekend. I think I'll go, cheap seats
> > for $25, why not. Thx in advance.
>
> > Sunday, March 13, 2011
>
> > New West Symphony
> > Boris Brott, conductor
>
> > Beethoven Overture to Fidelio, Opus 72
> > Mozart Concerto No. 21 in C Major for Piano & Orchestra, K. 467
> > Chopin Concerto No. 1 in E Minor, Opus 11
> > Chopin Grand Polonaise brillante in E-flat Major, Opus 22
>
> >http://www.janlisiecki.com/
>
> I have his Chopin concerti disc. It's fairly good for his young age.
> Will he become the next Kissin? Or next Lang Lang or next Yuja Wang?
> We don't know yet. But he does understand the importance of
> "interpretation". It's also nice for him to be discovered in such a
> young age, and as a result of his concert engagement, like a few other
> young pianists that been courted in the teen's, he does need to attend
> another brutal and yet pointless competition when he is in his
> twenties again. That to me is what is more important, away from the
> competition scene, and forget to please the judges and just to play
> the music. Time will tell how he will evolve, but for now, he has a
> very good start to win himself a concertizing career.
Fairly good????
Indeed, it kind of sweeps the boards, in my opinion. This young boy
has nothing to learn about this music. He has everything: sweep,
poetry, dazzling finger-work, a mean left hand, delicacy, strength.
One could go on.
Oscar was very fortunate to hear him in Santa Monica. I wonder if many
there understood what they were hearing him.
He will NOT enter the Chopin Competition in Warsaw. I agree. He is due
to enter the Glenn Gould School in Toronto in the Fall. Meanwhile he
is playing recitals, chamber music and concertos all over the place.
Check out his calendar at:
http://www.janlisiecki.com/en/calendar.html
TD
M. A.
> He will NOT enter the Chopin Competition in Warsaw.
How do you know?
M. A.
Nick Sun
I guess it because most competitions these days have turned many
promising young prodigies into nobody. And those professors and small
time agents promoting that idea share the most of the guilt. :-)
http://www.amazon.com/Competitors-Russias-Child-Prodigies-Various/dp/B00442M0RQ
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2011/Mar11/competitors_2057418.htm
http://www.factsandarts.com/articles/behind-the-scenes-at-piano-competitions/
graham
"pianomaven" <1pian...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:42915d1f-1f87-437a...@j13g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
Fairly good????
http://www.janlisiecki.com/en/calendar.html
------------------------------------------------------------
I must admit that when I heard him sometime ago, on a local TV station, I
thought: "Here we go again. Another talented local kid who'll disappear like
Kathy Chi (and other Honens winners)."
However, he's not just talented, but gifted and I'm glad to be proven wrong.
Graham
Dufus
>
> Indeed, it kind of sweeps the boards, in my opinion. This young boy
> has nothing to learn about this music.
As much as I admire what playing of his I've heard, really, any 15-
year old as much to learn about all music, especially Chopin, even in
the weakest of Chopin such as the concerti.
pianomaven
The point is: have you heard these Chopin piano concerti?
TD
Dufus
> The point is: have you heard these Chopin piano concerti?
>
The F Minor : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZMi2vpSppI&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
And Op.22:
pianomaven
In other words: no.
TD
Gerard
The world of recordings is larger than Youtube.
Oscar
>
> > As much as I admire what playing of his I've heard, really, any 15-
> > year old as much to learn about all music, especially Chopin, even in
> > the weakest of Chopin such as the concerti.
>
> The point is: have you heard these Chopin piano concerti?
I was there and heard it for myself. http://tiny.cc/7v3hx
Dufus
> In other words: no.
>
In other words, "yes" as to the F Minor.Very well played, but nothing
that evening to cause me to jettison my Rubinstein or Hoffman
recordings.
As Oscar points out, his recent E Minor was apparently great, but
since he has "nothing to learn" about the music I assume he'll move on
now to other concerti, unless he plans, nonetheless, to repeat the E
Minor for the rest of his career as does Argerich with the Ravel G,
Prokofiev 3rd. Or maybe she's still learning ?
Oscar
>
> As Oscar points out, his recent E Minor was apparently great, but
> since he has "nothing to learn" about the music I assume he'll move on
> now to other concerti, unless he plans, nonetheless, to repeat the E
> Minor for the rest of his career as does Argerich with the Ravel G,
> Prokofiev 3rd. Or maybe she's still learning ?
By the by, LA Phil approached Lisiecki a week ago to take Argerich's
place for this weekend's concerts. Alas, young Lisiecki does not yet
known Beethoven PC 1 in C. The call went to Denk.
Nick Sun
He will be playing at Verbier Festival this summer. Of course he does
not need it to land a recording contract since he already signed with
DGG, which BTW, I was the first one to have mentioned it last year.
But if he wow people there too, trust me, more concert engagement will
follow, and he needs to be very selective so that it won't interrupt
his music study. But it is foreseeable or maybe just our hope, that he
could work his way up to collaborate with top tier orchestras and play
in top tier venues around the world in five or six years, as long as
his teacher would not turn him into another pro competition machine.
In music, as well as in any other creative art, the key is ingenuity
by nature, and I think this kid may have it. So, let's wait and see.
After ten more years, who may come up on the top. Could it be Jan
Lisiecki, Benjamin Grosvenor, George Li (yes, you can mark my words
here), or some other young talents under the radar? Never the less,
whoever he/she maybe, let's hope none of them would have to
participate another one of those stupid piano competitions again. :-)
Oscar
>
> > By the by, LA Phil approached Lisiecki a week ago to take Argerich's
> > place for this weekend's concerts. Alas, young Lisiecki does not yet
> > known Beethoven PC 1 in C. The call went to Denk.
>
> He will be playing at Verbier Festival this summer. Of course he does
> not need it to land a recording contract since he already signed with
> DGG, which BTW, I was the first one to have mentioned it last year.
He only signed with DG a few weeks ago.
JohnGavin
I can see the possibility of competitions becoming somewhat outmoded
in todays world with so many other alternatives of exposure - YouTube
etc. also it seems easier to put out recordings on small or even
homemade labels.
Nick Sun
I posted a few links on Oct 9, 2010 here which have included his
pending signing. He can search this forum under the name "Grosvenor
(continued)". But unfortunately, the link for the news is out of dated
and no longer working. Jan has the backings from big name musicians
such as Pinchas Zukerman, who accidentally is among the first batch of
conductors who helped to turn the fortune of Yuja Wang. Quite frankly,
in the classical music world, people live on the reputation quite a
lot. At the very beginning, young artists need credential names to
recommend them to the major orchestras and music organizations. Agent
sure can help, but agent only, won't necessarily work either. It was
Barenboihm who recommended Yuja Wang to Abbado, the rest, are repeated
engagements, which solely depends on those young artists' real talent
and willingness to staying on the top. Today, with so many piano
competitions around the world each year, the relevance of each becomes
less and less. The organizers from the Miami international piano
festival for instance, clearly put it in words that they don't give a
damn which competitions those youngsters have won, including those
major ones. What they need is a good reputation those young players
gathered through real concerts. But the dilemma, however, is that for
many young competition participants, those competition scene probably
is their only real opportunities to be on the stage! To most of them,
it's a "chicken and egg" thing. Can Youtube help to solve this
problem? Absolutely not.
pianomaven
> On Mar 20, 5:53 am, pianomaven <1pianoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In other words: no.
>
> In other words, "yes" as to the F Minor.Very well played, but nothing
> that evening to cause me to jettison my Rubinstein or Hoffman
> recordings
As I say, NO! You have not heard this recording, but rather some
youtube version, with a string quartet?
> As Oscar points out, his recent E Minor was apparently great, but
> since he has "nothing to learn" about the music I assume he'll move on
> now to other concerti, unless he plans, nonetheless, to repeat the E
> Minor for the rest of his career as does Argerich with the Ravel G,
> Prokofiev 3rd. Or maybe she's still learning ?
His first recording will be of Mozart 20 and 21. He is playing the
Schumann Concerto. And lots of chamber music (in Montreal with James
Ehnes in a few weeks).
TD
pianomaven
And that, more than anything else, sealed the Verbier date, since
Martin Engstrom used to be A&R chief at DG and still has strong ties
to the company.
TD
pianomaven
> I can see the possibility of competitions becoming somewhat outmoded
> in todays world with so many other alternatives of exposure - YouTube
> etc. also it seems easier to put out recordings on small or even
> homemade labels.
Quite right. And this seems to be lost on the organizers of the piano
competitions.
TD
M. A.
>
> I can see the possibility of competitions becoming somewhat
> outmoded in todays world
I suggest that, to the contrary, in today's world of American Idol et al.,
piano or other classical competitions can attract audiences. The Cliburn
and latest Chopin did a good step in letting people around the world share
the experience. Ingolf Wunder also got a contract with DGG, thanks to
huge response he received for his Chopin competition performance.
M. A.
John Wiser
news:4d8678a2$0$6877$9b4e...@newsspool2.arcor-online.net...
and piano competitions muster vastly disparate audiences. Never shall they
meet, let alone overlap. Piano competitions are, I think, toxic nonsense.
JDW
td
> "M. A." <not.for....@server.com> wrote in message
And now, having destroyed the VC, RR is going on to do the same to the
Tchaikovsky.
Good luck.
TD
John Wiser
On Mar 20, 6:24 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "M. A." <not.for....@server.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4d8678a2$0$6877$9b4e...@newsspool2.arcor-online.net...> "JohnGavin"
> wrote...
>
> >> I can see the possibility of competitions becoming somewhat
> >> outmoded in todays world
>
> >> piano or other classical competitions can attract audiences. The
> >> Cliburn
> >> and latest Chopin did a good step in letting people around the world
> >> share
> >> the experience. Ingolf Wunder also got a contract with DGG, thanks to
> >> huge response he received for his Chopin competition performance.
>
>> Manifestly not so. In the current American cultural context, American
>> Idol
>> and piano competitions muster vastly disparate audiences. Never shall
>> they
>> meet, let alone overlap. Piano competitions are, I think, toxic nonsense.
> And now, having destroyed the VC, RR is going on to do the same to the
> Tchaikovsky.
> Good luck.
I can't tell from this whether you agree/disagree, or approve/disapprove.
Do expand on this and edify us please.
I say edify because enlightenment just too much to ask.
JDW
bassppn
just lisenend to the Winter Wind-Chopin. Talented, of course, a
genius, no. Quite a number of false notes, left hand did not seem as
strong as the right. Grosvenor is so much more talented.....
AB
td
>
> > In other words: no.
>
> In other words, "yes" as to the F Minor.Very well played, but nothing
> that evening to cause me to jettison my Rubinstein or Hoffman
> recordings.
No. You heard some other version. NOT the recording in question.
YouTube is not the Polish recording.
Furthermore, nobody is asking you to jettison anything.
TD
td
I am not into enlightenment. Sorry. And clearly you are not either.
TD
td
I am unprepared to make such a judgment at this stage. I simply am
prepared to enjoy what I have heard. You, Arri, hear 2 minutes of
music and have made up your mind.
Of course. Given the mind you are blessed with, that is what you have
to do.
Comparisons are, in any event, invidious.
Grosvernor was a great talent. It is being frittered away, I think. At
this point I am unsure of his future. And disappointed by what I am
hearing.
TD
JohnGavin
You forgot to mention that the b below middle c is 2 cents flat.
What's happening to you Arri??
Rob McAlear
Edmonton in a couple of months, a work I heard him play (most
impressively) in rehearsal with Zukerman and the orchestra at the
Ottawa arts centre a couple of years ago. The Mozart Piano Concerto
No. 20 was his "party piece" when I first learned of him about 5 years
ago (I was loaned a private DVD of an early performance, which was
superbly played).
By the way, folks like Zukerman don't discover young talent. It's shy
and dreary behind-the-scenes administrative types who troll around in
records stores and online who actually do the dicovery and recommend
to people like Mehta, Barenboim, et al. The administrator never
expects credit, and the big-name conductors feel all credit is due
them for simply having listened to the advice of a knowledgeable
businessman.
Rob McAlear
bassppn
>
> - Show quoted text -
stop the silly bullshit John....... why dont you go listen to
Grsovenor play Saent-Saens PC 2. Stop worrying about this Lisiecki
kid. He is talented, but no genius like BG.
AB
bassppn
>
> - Show quoted text -
the problem is that you dont hear........ so forget the
disappointmnet. Get drunk and be happy.
AB
Dufus
> On Mar 20, 10:23 am, JohnGavin <dagd...@comcast.net> wrote:
Good points both, and despite the audio limits of YT, seems almost all
young artists post there, unless someone first does for them.
But so far , YT does not give out Gold medals or First Prizes or
recitals so competitions will still thrive; and then post the
competition videos on YT.
John Wiser
On Mar 20, 7:11 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> TeDious ["td" <tomdedea...@mac.com>] he write:
> On Mar 20, 6:24 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tchaikovsky.
> > Good luck.
>
>> I can't tell from this whether
>> you agree/disagree, or approve/disapprove.
>
>> Do expand on this and edify us please.
>> I say edify because enlightenment just too much to ask.
> I am not into enlightenment. Sorry. And clearly you are not either.
Never apologize! Nor are we astonished. But we are edified to repletion.
JDW
Nick Sun
I never said Zukerman discovered him. I only said Jan has his backing.
As you well know that one time engagement doesn't mean anything, for
any young artist to thrive, repeat or return invitation is a must.
That's what separate those who made it and those who didn't. So, I
guess you are one of those "knowledgeable businessman" who helped to
engage little Jan then? Good job! :-)
http://www.edmontonsymphony.com/contact-edmonton-symphony-orchestra/
http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20060904_132496_132496
td
In point of fact, Arri, we agree on the point I have made. Don't make
me post the email you sent me.
Your problem, Arri, is that you put your bets on too few horses. There
is room for lots of talented youngsters. The best will rise to the
top, of course, like cream in milk. Examples abound.
TD
bassppn
I dont remember what I sent in the email, but whatever I said must be
true;-))
yes, there is room for lots of 'talented youngster's. Most of them
will wind up teaching in universities, conservatories,etc. and some
will go on to careers as soloists. I, for one, am not interested in
JUST 'talented youngsters"...... I am interested in true geniuses, of
which by definition, there are but a few. One is Grosvernor, who has
the POTENTIAL to be a huge pianist, if he is a bit more careful.
This Lisiecki strikes me as talented but not a phenomenon, so i
personally have no interest in his playing. Perhaps I am wrong and in
the future he will morph into a higher plane and I will be the first
to acknowledge this.
Many years ago, Hillary Hahn played twice with my orchestra........
she was about 14-15. She was very good and I remember telling her
fater that "you have a very talented daughter". But I must admit I
underestimtated her talents......... she turned into one of absolute
top players of her generation. Maybe I am wrong about this young
pianist.... but right now I dont see anything really special.
AB
JohnGavin
I have acknowledged many times that BG is very talented. I have no
issue with that.
But your judgements can be so heavy handed - and they are often
designed to show off some ultra-special hearing abilities that you
think you have.
There are times when I think your real reason for critiquing a pianist
is to show off - it's a form of exhibitionism.
Hamelin slightly mis-weights one or two notes in a passage and you
have to do your usual overboard critique based on that alone - it's so
cloyingly annoying.
"Look how well I hear everything". Give it up already.
bassppn
>
> - Show quoted text -
John
I dont write to "show off" my hearing or anything else. The musicians
I know all "hear" what I do. I have had perfect pitch all my life
which allows me to hear a lot more than you do, that is for sure.
What YOU unfortunately exhibit all too frequently is your ignorance.
I dont begrudge you the pleasure of listening...... after all, the
old saying, "ignorance is bliss" is certainly applicable in your
case. Yes, I do have better than average "hearing abilities". I know
that and have been told that. But that is the way it is...... my
comments concerning Lisiecki are not "subjective", they are clearly
objective.
John, try not to be too jealous, it is not becoming of you:-))
Arri
bassppn
TD, I dont bet on horses OR humans. Both are too un-predictable:-)
AB
td
Wrong. Experience tells us, Arri, that you never change your mind. Two
minutes of music and some poor 14 year old is toast.
What a silly man you are.
Perhaps you'll have to wait for the advice of your old violinist in
the NY Phil. He is supposed to be able to hear, but even that is in
doubt.
TD
td
It's his only card. And since he is deaf, it's not much of one, I
would suggest.
TD
bassppn
come now...... you can do better than that. I told you a while ago
that he passed away. I remember you telling me that you are "losing
it".... I did not believe it, but now it is becoming clear.
But I am sure that my "old violinist" friend would have told me to
stay away from tone deaf music lovers like you.
AB
td
What a pity.
Now who is going to tell you what to think?
TD
bassppn
well, I can count on you to help me, (if you can remember what to
say) :-)
AB
Rob McAlear
[edited...] So, I guess you are one of those "knowledgeable
businessmen" who helped to engage little Jan then?
=========
I am. I also engaged Benjamin Grosvenor for his Canadian debut in
Edmonton in March 2012. The Vancouver Symphony has also engaged him a
few days later. He'll play Ravel's G major concerto in both cities.
In Edmonton, he'll play a 40-minute recital program on the second half
of the concert.
We were hesitant about engaging Mr Lisiecki for the past five years.
Child prodigies are certainly a tempting prospect to attract audiences
who crave something fresh and new, and there's something irresistibly
compelling about a young person playing an instrument with the sort of
mastery we only associate with maturity. But they are also so
fragile ...
Robert McAlear
Dufus
As apparently are prima donnas like Zuckerman ? :
http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20060904_132496_132496
And another Deacon in Ottawa ?
Nick Sun
That's good. But as we all know that the key is not just a one time
deal only. As you may know that today, many young talents (not just
child prodigies) are dying to have a stage to play, just that, most of
them, including many of competition Laurette often can only manage a
one time engagement and never got call back again. And that's quite
discouraging. Some may say that's because of the brutal nature of this
music world, only fittest survive, and it should be kept that way.
Sadly however, many mentally fragile ones often end up quit way too
early to chasing the dream of a concertizing career, simply because
it's so demanding, not just from a musical stand point, but rather a
life long commitment. So, I hope we can have more music management
people like you help us finding and more importantly nurturing many
young talents, so that us, the regular paying concert patrons, can
enjoy more. :-)
td
I have never declined to illuminate you, Arri. Indeed, more than once
you have been forced to accept the humiliating fact that you agree
with me. Moments of clarity in a fog of ignorance, I suppose.
It is rewarding to me that you have begun to detect the vacuity of
Volodos' mind. It warms the cockles of my heart.
TD
bassppn
the only 'vacuum' I find around here is the one that inhabits your
brain......... I suggest you move to Florida if you really want to
warm your heart
AB
pianomaven
Yuk.
No way.
To many old New Yorkers.
TD
bassppn
only because they dont allow any old Cannadians.......
AB
ivanmaxim
>
> > > the only 'vacuum' I find around here is the one that inhabits your
> > > brain......... I suggest you move to Florida if you really want to
> > > warm your heart
>
> > Yuk.
>
> > No way.
>
> > To many old New Yorkers.
>
> > TD-
>
> only because they dont allow any old Cannadians.......
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
"To many old New Yorkers"
he meant -
(trans. Too many old Jews.)
Wagner Fan
Kip Williams
>
This is actually incorrect. You'll find more Canadian money in Miami
than in the next half dozen states north of Florida. Some Canadians
consider it "theirs" as much as some Texans believe they own Colorado.
Kip W
td
The place is jammed with them. Guess you don't know that. Ever been
there?
TD
td
Perhaps you'll allow me to make my own stupid statements. I don't need
yours attributed to me.
TD
td
Correct.
Alas, I have no control over the bad taste of my compatriots.
TD
Steve Emerson
"John Wiser" <cee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "M. A." <not.f...@server.com> wrote in message
> news:4d8678a2$0$6877$9b4e...@newsspool2.arcor-online.net...
> > "JohnGavin" wrote...
> >>
> >> I can see the possibility of competitions becoming somewhat
> >> outmoded in todays world
> >
> > I suggest that, to the contrary, in today's world of American Idol et al.,
> > piano or other classical competitions can attract audiences. The Cliburn
> > and latest Chopin did a good step in letting people around the world share
> > the experience. Ingolf Wunder also got a contract with DGG, thanks to
> > huge response he received for his Chopin competition performance.
> >
> Manifestly not so. In the current American cultural context, American Idol
> and piano competitions muster vastly disparate audiences. Never shall they
> meet, let alone overlap. Piano competitions are, I think, toxic nonsense.
That would seem to meet one of the requirements, right there.
SE.
bassppn
>
> - Show quoted text -
not on the West coast......
AB
John Wiser
news:emersn-DB13E7....@nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net...
Nevertheless, two sets of consumers, no connections.
JDW
bassppn
>
> - Show quoted text -
don't worry, we wont take that privledge away from you.
AB
ivanmaxim
ivanmaxim
Correct and I will defer - this is one time I could never "improve" on
the original. Wagner fan
pianomaven
You should never attempt what is, for you, an impossibility. Improving
anything, anytime, anywhere. Indeed, your very presence is a negative.
TD
Rob McAlear
As apparently are prima donnas like Zuckerman ? :http://
www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20060904_132496_132496
And another Deacon in Ottawa ?
======================================
I've worked with two Deacons in my career. Working with Tom was a
pleasure.
Rob McAlear
Matthew B. Tepper
letters to be typed in news:6cca2d02-88e8-41a1-9a3e-0d999e39bee4
@y26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> On Mar 21, 8:40 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As apparently are prima donnas like Zuckerman ? :http://
> www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20060904_132496_132496
>
> And another Deacon in Ottawa ?
>
>=====================================
> I've worked with two Deacons in my career. Working with Tom was a
> pleasure.
>
> Rob McAlear
Are you the same Robert McAlear who compiled the discography for Glenn
Plaskin's Horowitz biography? If so, I believe we corresponded years ago.
--
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pianomaven
> Rob McAlear <robmcal...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed in news:6cca2d02-88e8-41a1-9a3e-0d999e39bee4
> @y26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Mar 21, 8:40 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As apparently are prima donnas like Zuckerman ? :http://
> >www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20060904_132496_132496
>
> > And another Deacon in Ottawa ?
>
> >=====================================
> > I've worked with two Deacons in my career. Working with Tom was a
> > pleasure.
>
> > Rob McAlear
>
> Are you the same Robert McAlear who compiled the discography for Glenn
> Plaskin's Horowitz biography? If so, I believe we corresponded years ago.
Very likely. But somehow I doubt that Rob sollicited your
communication.
TD
pianomaven
We always managed to have fun, Rob, as I recall anyway. The other
Deacon is no relation, by the way.
TD
Randy
> On Mar 23, 9:07 pm, Rob McAlear <robmcal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 21, 8:40 pm, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As apparently are prima donnas like Zuckerman ? :http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20060904_132496_132496
>
> > And another Deacon in Ottawa ?
>
Randy
What kind of fun
pianomaven
> What kind of fun
You're too randy for your own good.
TD
Randy
You,re funny
pianomaven
You're sick.
TD
Rob McAlear
Are you the same Robert McAlear who compiled the discography for Glenn
Plaskin's Horowitz biography? If so, I believe we corresponded years
ago.
===================
I am and we did. The world was young then...
Rob McAlear
td
And so was Mr. Plaskin, alas.
TD
gggg gggg
> Anyone familiar with this young Canadian pianist, born March 23,
> 1995? I know he has a disc of the E Minor Concerto Op. 21 on the in-
> house label of the Chopin Institute in Warsaw (Lisiecki's parents are
> Polish). He is playing at Barnum Hall at Santa Monica High School
> with the New West Symphony this weekend. I think I'll go, cheap seats
> for $25, why not. Thx in advance.
> Sunday, March 13, 2011
> New West Symphony
> Boris Brott, conductor
> Jan Lisiecki, piano
> Beethoven Overture to Fidelio, Opus 72
> Mozart Concerto No. 21 in C Major for Piano & Orchestra, K. 467
> Chopin Concerto No. 1 in E Minor, Opus 11
> Chopin Grand Polonaise brillante in E-flat Major, Opus 22
> http://www.janlisiecki.com/
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