Beecham's Best Recordings?
Jarl Sigurd
British Conductor, Thomas Beecham? What were his specialties?
What are your own personal favorites of his works?
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> Just curious. What are considered to be the best recordings by
> British Conductor, Thomas Beecham? What were his specialties?
> What are your own personal favorites of his works?
I have only two Beecham recordings. His Beethoven 7 on Ermitage is good but
not great, and his Rimsky-Korsakov Scheherazade on EMI is wonderful--one of my
favorites.
Matty
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: What are your own personal favorites of his works?
His "Carmen" with de los Angeles and Gedda is IMHO a classic.
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Josh Passell
> What were his specialties?
> What are your own personal favorites of his works?
Sibelius seconded, and let me put a word in for Delius.
But right now I'm listening to his Mozart Prague with London Phil on EMI
from 1940. I ran to my shelves to wash out the sound of the fatally genteel
Neville Marriner in this same piece over the radio. Beecham was anything
but genteel, and I think the late Mozart symphonies benefit from rough
handling.
Josh
David Wake
> Just curious. What are considered to be the best recordings by
> British Conductor, Thomas Beecham? What were his specialties?
> What are your own personal favorites of his works?
>
Sibelius 4 and Tapiola (both EMI studio recordings).
Lots of French stuff.
David
Rtsina
>Just curious. What are considered to be the best recordings by
>British Conductor, Thomas Beecham? What were his specialties?
>What are your own personal favorites of his works?
>
Any of his Handel, including the over-the-top 1959 "Messiah" (with cymbals,
gongs, bass drum and great style). I am particularly fond of Beecham's
"Amiryllis Suite" that's on an EMI CD, now OP. His 1960 Seattle Symphony live
performance is exquisite.
I like his Beethoven 2nd and 4th as well. Generally he seems best in even
Beethoven, though I haven't heard the 6th in ages and can't remember an 8th.
DT
Matthew B. Tepper
apart, of the Symphonie fantastique (the earlier, mono one is better). A
terrific "Harold en italie" with Primrose. Various overtures, wonderfully
done (and it looks as though some of them are finally getting transferred
to CD by Sony, at least in the UK). A live Grande Messe des morts, on BBC
Legends, truly legendary. And an excellent Te Deum, forgotten by Sony.
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> Just curious. What are considered to be the best recordings by
> British Conductor, Thomas Beecham?
Beecham was a conductor with a pretty broad range. My favorites
are his Mozart, (particularly his Magic Flute) Sibelius and
Delius. In the hifi era, I like his Carmen.
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currently in the GROC sereis are uniformly fine.
Brendan
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2. La Boheme
3. Zauberflote
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Marcus Maroney
And his Messiah...
Marcus Maroney (in a bombastic Messiah mood....)
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Raymond Hall
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| British Conductor, Thomas Beecham? What were his specialties?
| What are your own personal favorites of his works?
All his Delius, and some Mozart. A Mozart overture (forget which one) which
crackled, and was phrased, like nobody else could.
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Josh Passell <JDPa...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> In article <rQeB7.71752$TW.3...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Jarl Sigurd"
> <jarls...@geocities.com> wrote:
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>
> > What were his specialties?
> > What are your own personal favorites of his works?
>
> Sibelius seconded, and let me put a word in for Delius.
And I'll second your Delius.
Beecham was anything but genteel, and I think the late Mozart symphonies
benefit from rough
> handling.
>
I have both his (Beecham's) and the Callas/Pretre Carmen and would describe
Beecham's as, if not quite genteel then a bit softer, attitude-wise. It's
certainly anything but coarse. Ditto his La Boheme.
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Dennis Hardwick
Sibelius No. 1 with the RPO (1951 & 52)
I think, as did Harris Goldsmith in a Sibelius Symphony article more
than 30 years, this is the definitive version. Interestingly, the sound
on side one is tonally natural while the second side is shrill and less
well defined. It does have one moment of amusement--what sounds like a
cat getting its tail stepped on during the second movement. Here the
performance surpasses the work itself. It does show up on used record
lists and at second hand stores rather frequently. The next move belongs
to Sony.
Dennis Hardwick
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If there is a move, it ain't gonna happen in the US. Try UK or France.
> Dennis Hardwick
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> Just curious. What are considered to be the best recordings by
> British Conductor, Thomas Beecham? What were his specialties?
> What are your own personal favorites of his works?
>
> Jarl Sigurd
I like the Nutcracker Suite; Sibelius' 4th Symphony and the Oceanides; La
Boheme and Carmen.
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Brendan R. Wehrung
Each is different and has its points, but in practical terms only the
joyous 1959 recording is available unless you happen across the Pearl
(the Biddulph going down with the company).
Brendan
Brendan R. Wehrung
Or perhaps Universal, since the Sibelius 1st was recorded by Philips for
American Columbia and issued in the UK on Philips or Fontana.
Not that it makes a great deal of difference since both companies (Sony
and Universal) seem somewhat uninterested in their vaults at the present
time. I doubt they'd spend the money to have lawyers sort out who owns
what rights. At that, we'd probably end up with another "not available in
the U.S." Philips.
Brendan
Sol L. Siegel
>1. Ein Heldenleben (1960s version)
>2. La Boheme
>3. Zauberflote
>
Have never managed to hear the Zauberflote, but can
enthusiastically endorse the first two. Also almost anything by
Sibelius, Delius, or Berlioz (especially the Requiem on BBC
Legends.) His famous Schubert 3 & 5 are lovely, but the slow
tempo of the finale of 6 drives me up a wall. Berkshire offers an odd
UK Sony disc that includes Delius' Paris and Lord Berner's
wonderfully batty Triumph of Neptune suite. And of course there's
Scheherazade.
Actually, both his Heldenlebens are among a long list of Beecham
recordings that are OOP, including his Beethoven 2 & 7 and a
fantastic coupling of the Tchaikovsky 5th and Francesca. Also
be on the lookout for compilations of overtures and programs
entitled "Lollipops", for which he was famous.
-Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
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Roland van Gaalen
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> There are three recordings of Messiah - which do you prefer?
>
My favorite Messiah by a wide margin is the early Beecham Messiah which was
recorded in 1927. It's a delightful live performance with fine singers such
as the contralto Muriel Brunskill, with an atmosphere of warmth and
spontaneity. In comparison with the recording from the late 1950s, which I
dislike, it is elegant and grand rather than bombastic. The sound is rather
pleasant, by the way.
Ref: Pearl GEMM CDS 9456 (2 cds)
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Sudhir Kadkade
Of the stuff I've kept I especially like.
1. The Delius double disk on EMI.
2. The Carmen with Victoria de Los Angeles.
3. The big-band Messiah.
4. Bizet Symphony in C, etc.
5. La Boheme
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Sudhir
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Marcus Maroney
By 'bombastic' I meant Goosens. Are all three of that version?
Marcus Maroney
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Brian Cantin
> By 'bombastic' I meant Goosens. Are all three of that version?
No, the "Goosens" arrangement was created specifically for the
later recording.
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>: What are your own personal favorites of his works?
>
>His "Carmen" with de los Angeles and Gedda is IMHO a classic.
His La Mer - nobody comes close.