Your Favorite Recording of Shostakovich's 5th Symphony
gperkins151
one recording of the 5th by him.
Which one do you prefer?
George
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> >I don't have one yet by this conductor, but I would prefer to only get
> > one recording of the 5th by him.
>
> > Which one do you prefer?
>
> > George
Sorry, I intended to ask about Mravinsky performances only.
George
M forever
I have several and can't really say which one is my "favorite", but
the one contained in this album is particularly interesting because it
was made only a few months after the premiere (and the sound is fairly
good, given the age of the recording):
http://preview.tinyurl.com/mrkxe3
I wonder what this new download from "Denon Essentials" is, which
recordings it contains:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lp8qas
gperkins151
Thanks!
I understand that there are something like 8 recordings of this work
by the conductor. I am only aware of five:
1. Doremi 1937
2. Melodiya 1954
3. Praga or Chant du Mode labeled (incorrectly?) 1967
4. EMI one recorded in Vienna with the Leningrad 1978
5. Erato with Leningrad 1984
George
td
Yeah, but he's probably trying to flog something else.
Soooooooo boring.
TD
td
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> > > >I don't have one yet by this conductor, but I would prefer to only get
> > > > one recording of the 5th by him.
>
> > > > Which one do you prefer?
>
> > > > George
>
> > Sorry, I intended to ask about Mravinsky performances only.
>
> > George
>
> I have several and can't really say which one is my "favorite", but
> the one contained in this album is particularly interesting because it
> was made only a few months after the premiere (and the sound is fairly
> good, given the age of the recording):http://preview.tinyurl.com
/mrkxe3
EEEGAD!
That's on DOREMI!!!
A junk pirate label.
Most recordings are terribly processed.
To be avoided at all costs.
TD
td
The Melodiya recording is the one I know. I have in on an early LP. It
has also been transferred to CD by Melodiya.
TD
M forever
Have you heard this actual album? Probably not.
If there is a better sourcefor this recording, I want to have it. Do
you know a better source for this recording? Probably not.
Kalman Rubinson
<gperk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>1. Doremi 1937
>2. Melodiya 1954
>3. Praga or Chant du Mode labeled (incorrectly?) 1967
>4. EMI one recorded in Vienna with the Leningrad 1978
>5. Erato with Leningrad 1984
I have one on JVC but I believe it is the 1978 one you list.
Kal
Jeff
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Your third item here - Praga/Chant du Mond PR 7250 085 - is dated as a
live stereo Leningrad Phil. account recorded 26 May 1967 at the Dvorak
Hall in the Rudofinum, Prague. The coupling is a very droll Ninth from
Kosler/Czech Phil. (same site) dated 13 March 1981. Both are in
excellent sound.
Jeff Lipscomb
jrsnfld
I think the 1984 Erato is slightly better recorded and slightly better
in terms of the playing than the JVC performance from Vienna in 1978.
I don't remember anything about the earlier ones that I've heard. The
Erato is simply fantastic (all of the ones I've heard are great)--
controlled fury, brilliantly calculated, polished interpretation,
overwhelming impact--absolute mastery in action.
--Jeff
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> I understand that there are something like 8 recordings of this work
> by the conductor. I am only aware of five:
>
> 1. Doremi 1937
> 2. Melodiya 1954
> 3. Praga or Chant du Mode labeled (incorrectly?) 1967
> 4. EMI one recorded in Vienna with the Leningrad 1978
> 5. Erato with Leningrad 1984
The fact that one of these is on Doremi means there are four choices (from
the ones listed above, anyway).
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M forever
There is also a live recording from Tokyo 1973 on Altus which I don't
have. I wonder how the sound quality is. One might assume that
Japanese live recordings in that period may have been better than
Soviet ones, but one might also be wrong about that!
boombox
gperkins151 wrote:
>
> I understand that there are something like 8 recordings of this work
> by the conductor. I am only aware of five:
>
> 1. Doremi 1937
> 2. Melodiya 1954
> 3. Praga or Chant du Mode labeled (incorrectly?) 1967
> 4. EMI one recorded in Vienna with the Leningrad 1978
> 5. Erato with Leningrad 1984
>
> George
The Praga certainly is labeled incorrectly, since it is the Vienna
performance of 1978! There are Leningrad performances from 1965 and
1966, which are among the best of the Mravinsky 5th., both issued on
Russian Disk and both oop. The ’65 performance seems to be available
on the Japanese Dreamlife label. There was also a 1973 performance on
Russian Disk, which for me is not as good as the 65 or 66. The one
I’ve never heard is the Tokyo recording.
jrsnfld
There are also two different Mravinsky Shosty 5 DVDs (perhaps from the
people who di the Parnassus catalog?) now at Berkshire--perhaps one or
both of those performances are from Japan?
--Jeff
gperkins151
Anyone know the specifics on the Shostakovich 5th in the fairly recent
Brilliant Box dedicated to Mravinsky?
George
M forever
I have the box. It says 18-11-1982. Hmm. That date is not mentioned at
all in the Mravinsky discography here: http://www32.ocn.ne.jp/~yemravinsky/introd.htm
gperkins151
Thanks.
Maybe because the Brilliant was the first release? I think Brilliant
has made that claim about it's Russian Box set releases.
George
Sol L. Siegel
wrote:
>> 1. Doremi 1937
>> 2. Melodiya 1954
>> 3. Praga or Chant du Mode labeled (incorrectly?) 1967
>> 4. EMI one recorded in Vienna with the Leningrad 1978
>> 5. Erato with Leningrad 1984
>
>The Melodiya recording is the one I know. I have in on an early LP. It
>has also been transferred to CD by Melodiya.
There was a Vanguard CD, coupled with early-50s recording of the 1st
with Kondrashin. This was Mravinsky's last studio version of the 5th,
and it's a darned exciting performance despite the aging sound. I
have the 1978 Vienna on a JVC disc that was available all too briefly.
(I've never before heard of it being on EMI.) This is more smoothly
recorded and executed that other YM versions - disconcertingly so at
first. But it offers one of the richest experiences in hearing this
work.
I have one other version, from 1966, on Audiophile Classics, but I've
kept that solely for its substantial makeweight, an thrilling
Kondrashin rendition of the Miaskovsky 15th. (I just ripped it on
discovering that the disc has bronzed badly.) The Shostakovich
performance here seems crude in comparison with other Mravinskys I've
heard.
I haven't heard the Praga, supposedly a rip-off of Vienna. Erato/1984,
from the end of YM's career, is relatively easy and cheap to obtain.
It isn't bad and will give you the idea, but it's glassy in sound and
more shallow in interpretation than 1978 or 1954. And the audience
coughs up a storm.
- Sol L. Siegel, Philadelphia, PA USA
Sol L. Siegel
wrote:
>I have the 1978 Vienna on a JVC disc that was available all too briefly.
>(I've never before heard of it being on EMI.) This is more smoothly
>recorded and executed that other YM versions - disconcertingly so at
>first. But it offers one of the richest experiences in hearing this
>work.
An addendum: I'm listening to it now - and the sound seems to go in
and out a bit, like a car radio going under an underpass, at the
first-movement climax. Is this recording or is this disc
deteriorating as well? Anyone have this experience, on JVC or Praga?
ev
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Yes, the Altus recording is absolutely the best sounding version. It
is not a broadcast as other Mravinsky´s Japan recordings. It is the
master tape of a never released recording.
Erkki
td
I know a better source for anything.
Doremi does crap.
TD
A N Other1
I
> have the 1978 Vienna on a JVC disc that was available all too briefly.
> (I've never before heard of it being on EMI.) This is more smoothly
> recorded and executed that other YM versions - disconcertingly so at
> first. But it offers one of the richest experiences in hearing this
> work.
>
>
> - Sol L. Siegel, Philadelphia, PA USA
There was an EMI box set of 4 LPs of Mravinsky in Vienna.
3Bs
> There is also a live recording from Tokyo 1973 on Altus which I don't
> have. I wonder how the sound quality is. One might assume that
> Japanese live recordings in that period may have been better than
> Soviet ones, but one might also be wrong about that!
I had one Altus Mra disk- too reverberant, especially considering the
orchestra.
Gerard
>
> I had one Altus Mra disk- too reverberant, especially considering the
> orchestra.
What else was on that disk (what was too reverberant) ?
weary flake
> I have several and can't really say which one is my "favorite", but
> the one contained in this album is particularly interesting because it
> was made only a few months after the premiere (and the sound is fairly
> good, given the age of the recording):
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/mrkxe3
The Shosty 5 from 1938 is also available on an Artone 4 CD set:
http://www.amazon.com/Evgeni-Mravinsky-Box-Germany/dp/B0009F2FDG/
one_o_six
> I don't have one yet by this conductor, but I would prefer to only get
> one recording of the 5th by him.
>
> Which one do you prefer?
>
> George
1, Mravinsky
2. Kondrashin
3. Rhozdestvensky
4. (all other Russians)
5. Jansons
6. Nobody else
I am lucky for owning several LPs...
M forever
> M forever <ms1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have several and can't really say which one is my "favorite", but
> > the one contained in this album is particularly interesting because it
> > was made only a few months after the premiere (and the sound is fairly
> > good, given the age of the recording):
> >http://preview.tinyurl.com/mrkxe3
>
> The Shosty 5 from 1938 is also available on an Artone 4 CD set:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Evgeni-Mravinsky-Box-Germany/dp/B0009F2FDG/
Thanks! Have you compared this to the Doremi release?
M forever
In other words, no, you don't know this particular recording, and no,
you don't know a better source either. You just wanted to make one of
your irrelevant interjections and pretend to have an opinion, as
usual.
> Doremi does crap.
Hmmm...maybe you could find a job there, after you were fired
everywhere else. But no, on second thought, no matter how bad they
are, they can't be clueless enough for you to fool them. Nobody is.
> TD
M forever
What do you mean by that? It's not a live recording from a concert?
jrsnfld
I'm not sure which Jansons recording you mean, but why do dislike it
so much?
--Jeff
3Bs
Going on memory, perhaps nothing. Ah, I'm correct:
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/875239
one_o_six
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I don't dislike it at all, far from it, I even prefer it over all
others, except the Russians.
(I even attended a live performed of the 5th conducted by Jansons)
Regards,
Jorge
