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mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk

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Oct 2, 2008, 9:44:18 AM10/2/08
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From SWR2 "Stockhausen Day" 22/08/08

Karlheinz Stockhausen: LICHT
"7 Tage in dreieinhalb Stunden : Eine Collage von Reinhard Ermen"

Three files:

http://rapidshare.com/files/141262194/Licht_CD1.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/141265695/Licht_CD2.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/141269555/Licht_CD3.zip

The excerpts (interspersed with interviews) are as below.

(1) Dienstag, Jahreslauf (bells)
(2) Sonntag, Licht-Bilder
(3) Samstag, Licht-Formel
(4) Montag, Montags-Gruss
(5) Montag, Befreuchtung mit Klavierstück
(6) Dienstag, Dienstags-Gruss
(7) Dienstag, Jahreslauf
(8) Dienstag, Jahreslauf
(9) Dienstag, Pietà
(10) Mittwoch, Mittwochs-Gruss
(11) Mittwoch, Helikopter-Quartett
(12) Donnerstag, Donnerstags-Gruss
(13) Donnerstag, Donnerstags-Gruss
(14) Donnerstag, Michaels Jugend
(15) Freitag
(16) Freitag, Kinder-Chor
(17) Freitag, Kinder-Tutti
(18) Freitag, Kinder-Krieg
(19) Samstag, Luzifers Traum
(20) Samstag, Luzifers Traum
(21) Samstag, Luzifers Tanz
(22) Sonntag, Hoch-Zeiten
(23) Sonntag, Sonntags-Abschied

Mark Stratford

mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk

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Oct 2, 2008, 10:07:06 AM10/2/08
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BTW: take no notice of the mp3 names. For example, the track on the
first download
"04 Extract 2 - Montag.mp3" is of course Lichter-Wasser from Sonntag

Brendan R. Wehrung

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Oct 2, 2008, 11:50:17 AM10/2/08
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(mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk) writes:
> From SWR2 "Stockhausen Day" 22/08/08
>
> Karlheinz Stockhausen: LICHT
> "7 Tage in dreieinhalb Stunden : Eine Collage von Reinhard Ermen"
>
> Three files:
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/141262194/Licht_CD1.zip
> http://rapidshare.com/files/141265695/Licht_CD2.zip
> http://rapidshare.com/files/141269555/Licht_CD3.zip
>
> The excerpts (interspersed with interviews) are as below.
>
> (1) Dienstag, Jahreslauf (bells)
> (2) Sonntag, Licht-Bilder
> (3) Samstag, Licht-Formel
> (4) Montag, Montags-Gruss
> (5) Montag, Befreuchtung mit Klavierst=FCck

> (6) Dienstag, Dienstags-Gruss
> (7) Dienstag, Jahreslauf
> (8) Dienstag, Jahreslauf
> (9) Dienstag, Piet=E0

> (10) Mittwoch, Mittwochs-Gruss
> (11) Mittwoch, Helikopter-Quartett
> (12) Donnerstag, Donnerstags-Gruss
> (13) Donnerstag, Donnerstags-Gruss
> (14) Donnerstag, Michaels Jugend
> (15) Freitag
> (16) Freitag, Kinder-Chor
> (17) Freitag, Kinder-Tutti
> (18) Freitag, Kinder-Krieg
> (19) Samstag, Luzifers Traum
> (20) Samstag, Luzifers Traum
> (21) Samstag, Luzifers Tanz
> (22) Sonntag, Hoch-Zeiten
> (23) Sonntag, Sonntags-Abschied
>
> Mark Stratford


Should this be labeled "All the Stockhausen You'll Ever Need"?

Brendan

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Oct 2, 2008, 12:17:42 PM10/2/08
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Brendan R. Wehrung wrote:
> (mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk) writes:
>> From SWR2 "Stockhausen Day" 22/08/08
>>
>> Karlheinz Stockhausen: LICHT
>> "7 Tage in dreieinhalb Stunden : Eine Collage von Reinhard Ermen"
>>
>> Three files:
>>
>> http://rapidshare.com/files/141262194/Licht_CD1.zip
>> http://rapidshare.com/files/141265695/Licht_CD2.zip
>> http://rapidshare.com/files/141269555/Licht_CD3.zip
>>
>> The excerpts (interspersed with interviews) are as below.
>>
>> (1) Dienstag, Jahreslauf (bells)
>> (2) Sonntag, Licht-Bilder
>> (3) Samstag, Licht-Formel

snip

>> (22) Sonntag, Hoch-Zeiten
>> (23) Sonntag, Sonntags-Abschied
>>
>> Mark Stratford
>
>
> Should this be labeled "All the Stockhausen You'll Ever Need"?
>
> Brendan

I am thinking the same thing as it S L O W L Y downloads.

But of course its not true, you actually do need "Gruppen".

Doug McDonald

Alexandros Rigas

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Oct 2, 2008, 1:29:20 PM10/2/08
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On 2 Oct, 19:17, u...@domain.invalid wrote:
> Brendan R. Wehrung wrote:
> Doug McDonald- =

and Hymnen
and Punkte

alex

BernardP

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Oct 2, 2008, 2:09:23 PM10/2/08
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On 2/10/08 14:44, in article
8a5c240d-d73d-405a...@w32g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
"mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk" <mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From SWR2 "Stockhausen Day" 22/08/08
>
> Karlheinz Stockhausen: LICHT
> "7 Tage in dreieinhalb Stunden : Eine Collage von Reinhard Ermen"
>
> Three files:
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/141262194/Licht_CD1.zip
> http://rapidshare.com/files/141265695/Licht_CD2.zip
> http://rapidshare.com/files/141269555/Licht_CD3.zip

Thanks so much for this..
Bernard

BernardP

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Oct 2, 2008, 3:42:41 PM10/2/08
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"mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk" <mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


Hmmm we'll clear up the titles later, I'm still downloading!

david...@aol.com

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Oct 2, 2008, 6:34:10 PM10/2/08
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On Oct 2, 11:50 am, ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung)
wrote:

> Should this be labeled "All the Stockhausen You'll Ever Need"?

Trouble is it excludes the only Stockhausen I really need: Gruppen,
Carré, and Punkte. But maybe I should take this opportunity to hear
Licht whole.

-david gable

Doug McDonald

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Oct 2, 2008, 9:16:37 PM10/2/08
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What are the correct titles, in order?

Doug McDonald

Eric Grunin

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Oct 3, 2008, 1:04:09 AM10/3/08
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I guess I should download this. I have one of the 'days' complete
(Donnerstag?), and there were longish stretches of what I assumed was
Augenmusik (i.e., stage business with not much to listen to).

So what exactly is this? Highlights? Something like 10% of the full
'Licht'?

Regards,
Eric Grunin
www.grunin.com/eroica

BernardP

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Oct 3, 2008, 1:56:01 AM10/3/08
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On 3/10/08 02:16, in article gc3rph$b5$1...@news.acm.uiuc.edu, "Doug McDonald"
<mcdo...@NoSpAmscs.uiuc.edu> wrote:

Here are the musical example names from the first zipfile. Bassetsu Trio is
derived from Michaelion the final scene of Mittwoch.

(1) Dienstag, Jahreslauf (bells)
(2) Sonntag, Lichter Wasser
(3) (Mittwoch), Bassetsu Trio
(4) Montag, Montags-Gruss
(5) Montag, Befreuchtung mit Klavierst�ck


(6) Dienstag, Dienstags-Gruss
(7) Dienstag, Jahreslauf
(8) Dienstag, Jahreslauf

(9) Dienstag, Piet�
(10) Mittwoch, Mittwochs-Gruss

Simon Smith

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Oct 3, 2008, 2:30:51 AM10/3/08
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Eric Grunin wrote:
> On Oct 2, 6:34 pm, "david7ga...@aol.com" <david7ga...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 2, 11:50 am, ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Should this be labeled "All the Stockhausen You'll Ever Need"?
>> Trouble is it excludes the only Stockhausen I really need: Gruppen,
>> Carr�, and Punkte. But maybe I should take this opportunity to hear

>> Licht whole.
>>
>> -david gable
>
> I guess I should download this. I have one of the 'days' complete
> (Donnerstag?), and there were longish stretches of what I assumed was
> Augenmusik (i.e., stage business with not much to listen to).
>
> So what exactly is this? Highlights? Something like 10% of the full
> 'Licht'?

Well, not so much 'highlights' (in the sense that you might have
Highlights of The Ring, for instance) as an intelligent selection meant
to be representative - insofar as that's possible with Stockhausen - of
the whole thing.

The whole of LICHT is 29 hours
(http://www.stockhausen.org/LICHT_timing.html), so I suppose this is
actually just over 12% :) I'd say it's certainly worth dipping into,
even for the wary, though bearing in mind that almost every
opera/scene/section of LICHT is very different from every other...

Simon

mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk

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Oct 3, 2008, 5:18:21 AM10/3/08
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>On 3 Oct, 07:30, Simon Smith <simon.n...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:


Hi Simon - are you still there?

I presume these two concerts, listed on Stonebraker, are you..?

Sunday, February 8th Aberdeen, Aberdeen University
Wedn., Febr. 11th, 8:15 p.m. Edinburgh, Queens Hall

KLAVIERSTÜCKE (PIANO PIECES) I–IV, V, VII, IX, XIII

mark


Simon Smith

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Oct 3, 2008, 6:41:05 AM10/3/08
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mark_str...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> On 3 Oct, 07:30, Simon Smith <simon.n...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Simon - are you still there?
>
> I presume these two concerts, listed on Stonebraker, are you..?
>
> Sunday, February 8th Aberdeen, Aberdeen University
> Wedn., Febr. 11th, 8:15 p.m. Edinburgh, Queens Hall
>
> KLAVIERST�CKE (PIANO PIECES) I�IV, V, VII, IX, XIII


That's me. A nice easy-going programme; can't wait :)

Simon

BernardP

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Oct 3, 2008, 3:36:11 PM10/3/08
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>> What are the correct titles, in order?
>>
>> Doug McDonald
> Here are the musical example names from the first zipfile. Bassetsu Trio is
> derived from Michaelion the final scene of Mittwoch.
>
> (1) Dienstag, Jahreslauf (bells)
> (2) Sonntag, Lichter Wasser
> (3) (Mittwoch), Bassetsu Trio
> (4) Montag, Montags-Gruss
> (5) Montag Act 2: Befreuchtung mit Klavierst�ck

> (6) Dienstag, Dienstags-Gruss
> (7) Dienstag, Jahreslauf
> (8) Dienstag, Jahreslauf
> (9) Dienstag, Act 2: Piet�
> (10) Mittwoch Mittwochs-Gruss
>
Second zipfile

11) Mittwoch: Helikopter Streichquartett
12) Donnerstags Gruss
13) Donnerstags Gruss
14) Donnerstag: Act 1 Michaels Jungend: Scene 2: Mondeva
15) Freitag: Kinder-Orchester
16) Freitag: Kinder-Chor
17) Freitag: Kinder-Tutti

Third Zipfile:
18) Freitag: Kinder-Krieg
19) Samstag: Luzifers Traum
20) Samstag: Luzifers Traum
21) Samstag: Luzifers Tanz - Orchesterstreik
22) Sonntag: Hoch Zeiten f�r Chor
23) Sonntag: Sonntags Abshied

--
I think this broadcast turns out to be a compelling collection of interviews
(in German), illustrated by music from all 7 operas.

But as a potted survey of the music it is inconsistent, dwelling on and
returning to particular sections, while avoiding other Acts and Scenes
altogether.

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