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Rachmaninov PC3 by Sokolov

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rubio

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Feb 14, 2008, 3:26:14 AM2/14/08
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Is Sokolovs performance of this piece available comercially? If so,
what are the details? If not, where can a download be found?

ne...@thump.org

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Feb 15, 2008, 2:27:24 AM2/15/08
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No commercial recordings alas of Sokolov in Rach 3. There are at least
5 pirate recordings in circulation. The best is probably from the
Proms in 1995, considered by many who either heard it or where there
as one of the greatest of that work ever recorded. The 'recording' was
by the made and broadcast BBC in this case. There's a very fine
account with Gergiev from around 1990.

Cecile

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:12:22 AM2/15/08
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ne...@thump.org sprak ons toe:

Here's the 1995 BBC recording:
http://rapidshare.com/files/91996614/Rach3SokolovProms95.zip.html
Indeed, maybe the best recording of the concerto ever.
Listen to the last page, he plays the ossia (four 16th notes instead of
triplets). Very rare.
Enjoy!
--
Cecile
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een optimist maakt ze open.


Peter Lemken

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:37:49 AM2/15/08
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Cecile <weste...@nospam.demon.nl> wrote:

> Here's the 1995 BBC recording:
> http://rapidshare.com/files/91996614/Rach3SokolovProms95.zip.html
> Indeed, maybe the best recording of the concerto ever.
> Listen to the last page, he plays the ossia (four 16th notes instead of
> triplets). Very rare.
> Enjoy!

I can't find any source for the "Ossia". It is not in the score I have.

Peter Lemken
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Simon Smith

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Feb 15, 2008, 7:56:51 AM2/15/08
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Peter Lemken wrote:
> Cecile <weste...@nospam.demon.nl> wrote:
>
>> Here's the 1995 BBC recording:
>> http://rapidshare.com/files/91996614/Rach3SokolovProms95.zip.html
>> Indeed, maybe the best recording of the concerto ever.
>> Listen to the last page, he plays the ossia (four 16th notes instead of
>> triplets). Very rare.
>> Enjoy!
>
> I can't find any source for the "Ossia". It is not in the score I have.

It's in the two-piano reduction published by Boosey & Hawkes (1910),
which also includes a few other ossia passages here and there, though
the B&H full score doesn't include them, for some reason. The only
recording I have where it is player is André Watts' (Sony Essential
Classics). (It is quavers (8th notes) rather than semiquavers, of course.)

Simon

deac...@yahoo.com

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Feb 15, 2008, 10:50:59 AM2/15/08
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On Feb 15, 7:37 am, spam.for....@buerotiger.de (Peter Lemken) wrote:

> Cecile <westerto...@nospam.demon.nl> wrote:
> > Here's the 1995 BBC recording:
> >http://rapidshare.com/files/91996614/Rach3SokolovProms95.zip.html
> > Indeed, maybe the best recording of the concerto ever.
> > Listen to the last page, he plays the ossia (four 16th notes instead of
> > triplets). Very rare.
> > Enjoy!
>
> I can't find any source for the "Ossia". It is not in the score I have.

My Breitkopf and Hertel/Gutheil/Boosey and Hawkes edition from 1947
has the Ossia which replaces the octave triplets in both hands by
quadruplets on the last page of the two-piano score.

The only recording I recall which uses this Ossis is Watts/Bernstein.

TD

rubio

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Feb 15, 2008, 12:30:30 PM2/15/08
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On 15 Feb, 11:12, "Cecile" <westerto...@NOSPAM.demon.nl> wrote:

> Here's the 1995 BBC recording:http://rapidshare.com/files/91996614/Rach3SokolovProms95.zip.html
> Indeed, maybe the best recording of the concerto ever.
> Listen to the last page, he plays the ossia (four 16th notes instead of
> triplets). Very rare.
> Enjoy!
> --
> Cecile

Thanks a lot!

Tony Overington

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Feb 15, 2008, 1:11:19 PM2/15/08
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On 14 Feb, 08:26, rubio <espen.kibsga...@bredbandsservice.no> wrote:
> Is Sokolovs performance of this piece available comercially? If so,
> what are the details? If not, where can a download be found?

Best one is the one from Stockholm, 1998 I think it was. Orchestra and
soloist are fully togehter on that one and you don't have the awful
piano sound from the Proms.

rubio

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Feb 15, 2008, 4:06:22 PM2/15/08
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So where can that one be found?

AG

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Feb 15, 2008, 4:34:58 PM2/15/08
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when i try and download this file it says it cannot be located (?)

ne...@thump.org

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Feb 15, 2008, 4:42:38 PM2/15/08
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:11:19 -0800 (PST), Tony Overington
<sid...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Best one is the one from Stockholm, 1998 I think it was. Orchestra and
>soloist are fully togehter on that one and you don't have the awful
>piano sound from the Proms.

Who is the conductor in Stockholm ? I might have a copy of that.

The Proms performance was well recorded but the piano got badly out of
tune by the end. Stupid Albert Hall gets like a sauna in the summer.
Sokolov won't play there any more.

Peter Lemken

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:53:18 PM2/15/08
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Simon Smith <simon...@eastwell.plus.com> wrote:
> Peter Lemken wrote:
>> Cecile <weste...@nospam.demon.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the 1995 BBC recording:
>>> http://rapidshare.com/files/91996614/Rach3SokolovProms95.zip.html
>>> Indeed, maybe the best recording of the concerto ever.
>>> Listen to the last page, he plays the ossia (four 16th notes instead of
>>> triplets). Very rare.
>>> Enjoy!
>>
>> I can't find any source for the "Ossia". It is not in the score I have.
>
> It's in the two-piano reduction published by Boosey & Hawkes (1910),
> which also includes a few other ossia passages here and there, though
> the B&H full score doesn't include them, for some reason.

Thanks for that piece of information. I only have the orchestra score, which
is why I have wondered about this particular Ossia.

Cecile

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:35:35 AM2/16/08
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AG sprak ons toe:

>>
>> Here's the 1995 BBC
>> recording:http://rapidshare.com/files/91996614/Rach3SokolovProms95.zip.html
>> Indeed, maybe the best recording of the concerto ever.
>> Listen to the last page, he plays the ossia (four 16th notes instead
>> of
>> triplets). Very rare.
>> Enjoy!

> when i try and download this file it says it cannot be located (?)

I hear no downloading problems from anybody else. Maybe you try later?

rk

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Feb 17, 2008, 1:53:22 PM2/17/08
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I have Sokolov playing Rach 3 with Gergiev/Marinsky Theatre Orch.
(7/89). First rate and piano stays in tune...

rk

abacusa...@gmail.com

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Apr 17, 2008, 8:47:29 AM4/17/08
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Hey, did you know Tony Overington is also an internet thief? Just do a
google for his name, or "sidozey", to read all about the massive scams
he's been pulling - robbed hundreds of people of tens of thousands of
pounds. Very clever!

Anybody know where he is? :-)

Cheers!
Rory

HvT

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Apr 17, 2008, 11:05:51 AM4/17/08
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<abacusa...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:c1f58905-4912-4388...@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

Even if that's the case, he certainly knows his pianists and their
repertoire ...

Henk


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