Furtwangler Parsifal?
Terrymelin
transferred to disc?
Terry Ellsworth
richard loeb
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samir ghiocel golescu
> Has a copy of the Furtwangler La Scala Parsifal ever shown up and been
> transferred to disc?
>
> Terry Ellsworth
Not to my knowledge (to be honest, I wasn't even sure a WF-Parsifal exists
or not) but I'd be very interested to listen to such a thing. Reportedly,
if memory serves, Furtwangler conducted Parsifal faster than Muck,
Toscanini and R. Strauss -- who knows, perhaps under Furty it seemed too
short? (-:
regards,
SG
Matthew B. Tepper
>
> Reportedly, if memory serves, Furtwangler conducted Parsifal faster than
> Muck, Toscanini and R. Strauss -- who knows, perhaps under Furty it
> seemed too short? (-:
Was there *anyone* who conducted it more slowly than Toscanini?
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John Harkness
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>samir ghiocel golescu wrote:
>>
>> Reportedly, if memory serves, Furtwangler conducted Parsifal faster than
>> Muck, Toscanini and R. Strauss -- who knows, perhaps under Furty it
>> seemed too short? (-:
>
>Was there *anyone* who conducted it more slowly than Toscanini?
>
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richard loeb
am always hoping before I go to Valhalla mysslf the complete Rings from
Furtwangler from Covent garden in the late 30's will surface - someone has
them.
samir ghiocel golescu
> Well there are quite a few rumors that both the complete Rings of Beecham
> and Furtwangler are around but there are tons of legal hurdles to surmount.
> Both complete Rings were recorded, I believe by HMV -
If they were, it should be better known--such a huge enterprise as
recording the whole Ring live in 1937 couldn't have been hidden. The funny
thing is I remember some article dealing in detail with Furtwangler's
recordings of the period (the 1937 Ninth was recorded in London as well,
adjacent to those coronation ceremonies) but a black hole is all I can
"remember" now.
> the rumors run gamut from them sitting in a warehouse in Brooklyn
then I can see why "the inner city culture is so rancid it is rotten"(:
> to they being in private hands who won't give them up.
Rob them, kill the "owners", feed the vultures with them, then give the
discs to some "transfer gods", to be published!
regards,
S[olicitor] G[eneral] in "Rcmr's Green Barrets"
Terrymelin
>I believe there is also a lost Meistersinger from la Scala as well - and I
>am always hoping before I go to Valhalla mysslf the complete Rings from
>Furtwangler from Covent garden in the late 30's will surface - someone has
>them.
I only hope you are right but suspect they would have surfaced already. My wife
and I were listening to several discs of excerpts from these this morning and
they are very good. Flagstad sounds so much better than the 50s stuff although
I think she is more involved in the character later on. But one can't deny the
shear beauty of sound that she produces in the 1930s.
Terry Ellsworth
richard loeb
and Furtwangler are around but there are tons of legal hurdles to surmount.
from them sitting in a warehouse in Brooklyn to they being in private hands
who won't give them up.
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Marc Perman
>Well there are quite a few rumors that both the complete Rings of Beecham
>and Furtwangler are around but there are tons of legal hurdles to surmount.
>Both complete Rings were recorded, I believe by HMV - the rumors run gamut
>from them sitting in a warehouse in Brooklyn to they being in private hands
>who won't give them up.
If they're in a Brooklyn warehouse, I volunteer to drive fellow
Manhattan RMCRers across the bridge to find them.
Marc Perman
DavidTassilo
>if memory serves, Furtwangler conducted Parsifal faster than Muck,
>Toscanini and R. Strauss
The comparison with Toscanini doesn't mean much. His Parsifal's are among the
slowest by far in the history of Bayreuth.
-david gable
scoundrel
>Well there are quite a few rumors that both the complete Rings
of Beecham
>and Furtwangler are around but there are tons of legal hurdles
to surmount.
>Both complete Rings were recorded, I believe by HMV - the
rumors run gamut
>from them sitting in a warehouse in Brooklyn to they being in
private hands
>who won't give them up.
>
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samir ghiocel golescu
His Parsifal's what, pray?
MEAN,
SG (:
<<It is only if we bestow upon artists our soul that they can continue to
live: it is only our blood that constrains them to speak to us. A truly
"historical" rendition would be ghostly speech before ghosts>>
Friederich Nietzsche
scoundrel
private collection of Walter Legge,....
As the recent masters for the Toscanini/Philharmonia Brahms
Set are from the Private copies of Walter Legge,..this is a
possibility,....
Irecently enquired as to the remastering of the Furtwangler RAI
Ring of '53,...and was told,..."not cost effective at this
time,..."
Go Figure,.....
Scoundrel
Craig Wallace
broadcast was made -according to the French Society newsletter some 10 years
ago! ("une serpente de mer veritable" I think were the words quoted!!).
Craig
in Sydney
HenryFogel
>From: terry...@aol.com (Terrymelin)
>Date: 07/03/00 12:41 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000703134129...@ng-co1.aol.com>
>
>Has a copy of the Furtwangler La Scala Parsifal ever shown up and been
>transferred to disc?
>
>Terry Ellsworth
>
>
Sadly, no.
Henry Fogel