Boulez and Prokofiev
Scott Kurtz
First Violin Concerto. Has Boulez ever conducted any other Prokofiev works?
David7Gable
Sure. A concerto with Ashkenazy in New York. And a couple of other pieces,
too, although I can't think which ones at the moment. I just tried to lay my
hands on an interview where he briefly discusses Prokofiev, but I can't find
it.
-david gable
Clovis Lark
> The only work by Prokofiev that I can recall Boulez having performed is the
> First Violin Concerto. Has Boulez ever conducted any other Prokofiev works?
Scythian Suite, Cleveland 1970 & 2000
Piano Cto. 5 1974
Matthew燘. Tepper
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Isn't it Shostakovich that Boulez refuses to touch?
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Dennis Davis
The Scythian Suite again a couple of seasons back here in London with
the LSO, and I seem to remember he was scheduled to conduct the Love
of Three Oranges Suite with the NYPO in the 1970's. Of course he
conducted the Classical Symphony in (I think) his very first concert
with a symphony orchestra - wasn't it in Venezuela (?) back in the
50's!
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Nigel Curtis
> Isn't it Shostakovich that Boulez refuses to touch?
Yes - he once said that in terms of olive oil Shos. was a "second
pressing of Mahler". He once said of Britten that "he holds no
interest for me".
He's often had a 'volte face' about composers. Wouldn't be surprised
for him to do 14th symphony.
Matthew燘. Tepper
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I'd love for him to do so -- say, with the Philadelphia Orchestra's string
section.
deac...@yahoo.com
wrote:
>>
>> Isn't it Shostakovich that Boulez refuses to touch?
>
>Yes - he once said that in terms of olive oil Shos. was a "second
>pressing of Mahler".
Which makes Boulez a third pressing of Messiaen. A little thin.
He once said of Britten that "he holds no interest for me".
I believe that Britten, if pressed on the issue (Britten was a
gentleman, after all) would have said the same of Boulez.
>He's often had a 'volte face' about composers. Wouldn't be surprised
>for him to do 14th symphony.
Who could possibly care one way or the other?
Maybe we can one day dream of dessicated Rachmaninoff, or limp, lean
Brahms, or better still, now this would be truly interesting, Boulez
conducts WEST SIDE STORY! Complete! On DG.
I predict big sales.
TD
Clovis Lark
I would...
Raymond Hall
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Boulez opened his trap too much as an "angry young lion", but he resorts to
conducting Bruckner now. Won't be too long before he touches Ketelby and
records him. Next project will be a crossover album with Kylie Minogue.
<g>
As for his comment on Britten, then in all probability that derives from
pure jealousy, and to be expected from the French. Basically it is a pity
that he opened his gallic gob to spit at everyone as a young'un because it
now leaves him with a lot of egg on his face.
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Scott Kurtz
affinity to the musical style but not necessarily because he hates the
music. Such composers would probably include Vaughan Williams, Holst,
Honegger, Milhaud, Ibert, Ginastera, Hartmann, Sibelius, Holmboe and others.
On the other hand, there are those composers he actively hates (Francaix,
Marcel Landowski, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Henze, Strauss). I can't
imagine him conducting Shostakovich except possibly the First, Second, or
Ninth symphonies since they are the least Mahleresque.
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Mazzolata
> There is some music Boulez doesn't play because he doesn't feel much of an
> affinity to the musical style but not necessarily because he hates the
> music. Such composers would probably include Vaughan Williams, Holst,
> Honegger, Milhaud, Ibert, Ginastera, Hartmann, Sibelius, Holmboe and others.
> On the other hand, there are those composers he actively hates (Francaix,
> Marcel Landowski, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Henze, Strauss). I can't
> imagine him conducting Shostakovich except possibly the First, Second, or
> Ninth symphonies since they are the least Mahleresque.
The First and Ninth are probably my least favourite Shostakovich
symphonies, followed by the 3rd and 15th.
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| Scott Kurtz wrote:
| > There is some music Boulez doesn't play because he doesn't feel much of
an
| > affinity to the musical style but not necessarily because he hates the
| > music. Such composers would probably include Vaughan Williams, Holst,
| > Honegger, Milhaud, Ibert, Ginastera, Hartmann, Sibelius, Holmboe and
others.
| > On the other hand, there are those composers he actively hates
(Francaix,
| > Marcel Landowski, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Henze, Strauss). I can't
| > imagine him conducting Shostakovich except possibly the First, Second,
or
| > Ninth symphonies since they are the least Mahleresque.
|
| The First and Ninth are probably my least favourite Shostakovich
| symphonies, followed by the 3rd and 15th.
The Shosty 1st is one of the most audaciously brilliant first symphonies
ever written. Perhaps Boulez is acknowledging that fact.
Van Eyes
> The First and Ninth are probably my least favourite Shostakovich
> symphonies, followed by the 3rd and 15th.
I don't care for the first three and last three.
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> "Mazzolata" <mazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>The First and Ninth are probably my least favourite Shostakovich
>>symphonies, followed by the 3rd and 15th.
>
>
> I don't care for the first three and last three.
I do like the 14th.
Mazzolata
> The Shosty 1st is one of the most audaciously brilliant first symphonies
> ever written.
It may well be, but I don't like it !
Sol L. Siegel
>>> Isn't it Shostakovich that Boulez refuses to touch?
>> He's often had a 'volte face' about composers. Wouldn't be
>> surprised for him to do 14th symphony.
>I'd love for him to do so -- say, with the Philadelphia Orchestra's
>string section.
Sawallisch did it in the Academy in '99 and it didn't really
project. Apparently there are restrictions on the rented sheet
music so that there can only be parts for 20 string players
(plus the keyboardist, two percussionists, and two singers).
FWIW, Ignat Solzhenitsyn (30ish son of the author, raised
bilingually in the US) is leading two performances here in
February in the small hall at the Kimmel Center with the
Philadelphia Chamber Orchestra, of which he's now principal
conductor. I'm certainly looking forward to it, especially after
hearing a brilliant Eroica from him, with a 34-player orchestra.
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Rodger Whitlock
> Boulez opened his trap too much as an "angry young lion", but he resorts to
> conducting Bruckner now. Won't be too long before he touches Ketelby and
> records him. Next project will be a crossover album with Kylie Minogue.
> <g>
Followed, no doubt, by the complete works of Leroy Anderson...
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Eric Grunin
wrote:
>>"Matthew B. Tepper" oyţ@earthlink.net writes:
>
>>>> Isn't it Shostakovich that Boulez refuses to touch?
>
>>> He's often had a 'volte face' about composers. Wouldn't be
>>> surprised for him to do 14th symphony.
>
>>I'd love for him to do so -- say, with the Philadelphia Orchestra's
>>string section.
>
>Sawallisch did it in the Academy in '99 and it didn't really
>project. Apparently there are restrictions on the rented sheet
>music so that there can only be parts for 20 string players
>(plus the keyboardist, two percussionists, and two singers).
It's not a matter of 'restrictions on the rented sheet music':
Shostakovich specified 10 violins, 4 violas, 3 cellos, and 2 basses,
and there are places where he writes a separate part for each.
Regards,
Eric Grunin
Matthew燘. Tepper
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> On 15 Nov 2003 04:30:20 GMT, vod...@aol.comexitspam (Sol L. Siegel)
> wrote:
>
>>>"Matthew燘. Tepper" oy兀earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>>>> Isn't it Shostakovich that Boulez refuses to touch?
>>
>>>> He's often had a 'volte face' about composers. Wouldn't be
>>>> surprised for him to do 14th symphony.
>>
>>>I'd love for him to do so -- say, with the Philadelphia Orchestra's
>>>string section.
>>
>>Sawallisch did it in the Academy in '99 and it didn't really
>>project. Apparently there are restrictions on the rented sheet
>>music so that there can only be parts for 20 string players
>>(plus the keyboardist, two percussionists, and two singers).
>
> It's not a matter of 'restrictions on the rented sheet music':
> Shostakovich specified 10 violins, 4 violas, 3 cellos, and 2 basses,
> and there are places where he writes a separate part for each.
Most notably, I think, in "Reply of the Zaporozhye Cossacks to the Sultan
of Constantinople" (which the trolls should read and apply to themselves).
David7Gable
>Marcel Landowski, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Henze, Strauss).
He may "actively hate" Landowski, but that's because of a personal feud. I
doubt he "actively hates" Tchaikovsky or even Rachmaninoff, which is not to say
that he's terribly interested in them. And he certainly doesn't hate Richard
Strauss, whose music he's been conducting for three decades. He did make some
rather nasty remarks about Henze at one point.
-david gable