CD insert foam woes, please help
djs259
printings) on Ebay and upon opening them discovered some foam inserts
wedged inside the double jewel cases that appeared somewhat degraded
yet intact, with no brittleness, flaking, or hardening in evidence.
And although a casual inspection didn't reveal any prominent damage, I
did notice that these foam inserts left an almost imperceptible "haze"
on the lacquer surface of the label sides of the discs. I am really
reluctant to spend the time wiping all eight discs with a cloth as it
presents quite a tedious chore and I am paranoid about leaving
scratches on these brand new discs. Can anyone knowledgeable in the
group make a suggestion as to whether or not it is worth the hassle to
attempt "cleaning up" these discs? Is it possible that this slight
residue left in the form of a dull haze cause no problems? I don't
think the label sides come into contact with anything inside my CD
player so the possiblity of some sort of cross-contamination seems
unlikely. Am I correct in this assumption?
Any help in this matter would be heartily appreciated.
Thanks.
Vaneyes
The topic has been put to bed. Please search rmcr archives for help.
Regards
djs259
I did search the archives, but all I found was lots of warnings to
remove them ASAP, which I've already done, as well as questions about
discs with damaged, pitted labels, but no information whatsoever
relating to my specific question. Most of the posts were about sets
that had already been unsealed and exposed to air for years, while the
ones I'm referring to were factory sealed and only recently opened.
Vaneyes
You're not likely to get any additional information, than what's on
this thread (link below) from about ten weeks ago...
Regards
Peter
inserts by washing the affected CDs in lukewarm water with just a bit of
detergent added, and use your fingers to make certain that all residue is
indeed taken off. After rinsing the CDs thoroughly in order to remove all
traces of the detergent, "blot" them dry with a "lintless" towel or piece of
cloth.
Prior to commencing with the above, "test" an edge portion of one of the CDs
to make certain that the lacquer protection on the label side is not "water
soluble" which was indeed the case with some early CDs.
Terry Simmons
"djs259" <djs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Have you played the discs? Does it matter?
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Cheers!
Terry
Kimba W. Lion
>Prior to commencing with the above, "test" an edge portion of one of the CDs
>to make certain that the lacquer protection on the label side is not "water
>soluble" which was indeed the case with some early CDs.
They'll say "NIMBUS" in the blank area near the center hole.
I used to think such discs were all made prior to 1991, but I recently found
one that said (P)1993.
Don Petter
Not just Nimbus. I've wiped away half a label on a DG CD using a damp
cloth (water only).
Don.
Kimba W. Lion
Petter) wrote:
>Not just Nimbus. I've wiped away half a label on a DG CD using a damp
>cloth (water only).
Nimbus made CDs for a LOT of other companies, both classical and
pop--Paula Abdul's debut album was on the Virgin label, but the discs were
manufactured by Nimbus, and had the water sensitive labels. That's why I
said you have to look in the metal around the center hole.
If you had such a disc that wasn't manufactured by Nimbus, it will be news
to me. No one has collected data on such discs (that I know of).
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Don Petter
<Kimba...@noemail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:57:02 GMT, don.petter*remove*@suk.sas.com (Don
>Petter) wrote:
>
>>Not just Nimbus. I've wiped away half a label on a DG CD using a damp
>>cloth (water only).
>
>Nimbus made CDs for a LOT of other companies, both classical and
>pop--Paula Abdul's debut album was on the Virgin label, but the discs were
>manufactured by Nimbus, and had the water sensitive labels. That's why I
>said you have to look in the metal around the center hole.
>
>If you had such a disc that wasn't manufactured by Nimbus, it will be news
>to me. No one has collected data on such discs (that I know of).
>
>
You may well be right, and I can't remember which CD it was to check,
but the extra warning is worthwhile, as others might not bother to
look for a Nimbus reference on a seemingly unrelated label.
Don.
Michael Lehrman
news:1148344967.2...@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
foam. It does help in some other cases, but not here. Neither will alcohol.
I would leave it like it is, since such haze does not affect the recording
itself.
ML
djs259
into their multi-disk sets anyhow? I'd like to avoid buying any more
of these in the future if possible. Are there any telltale signs to
look for when coming across sets suspected of having been exposed to
this foamy pestilence?
Steven de Mena
> When did manufacturers like London and DGG stop inserting this foam
> into their multi-disk sets anyhow? I'd like to avoid buying any more
> of these in the future if possible. Are there any telltale signs to
> look for when coming across sets suspected of having been exposed to
> this foamy pestilence?
I have bought several new 5 and 6 disc releases from Philips and Decca that
have started to use these foam inserts again. To the naked eye they appear
the same as the old ones, but perhaps there is something about the new ones
that will last longer.
Steve
Michael Lehrman
> into their multi-disk sets anyhow? I'd like to avoid buying any more
> of these in the future if possible. Are there any telltale signs to
> look for when coming across sets suspected of having been exposed to
> this foamy pestilence?
>
djs259
here strongly believes, based on their best judgement, that this thin
hazy residue will eventually kill these "new" discs by somehow eating
through the labels. I still have two more sets that I have not yet
unsealed, namely, a four disc London Tristan Und Isolde and a three
disc London Strauss Die Frau Ohne Schatten, both marked 1992. I did
get them for less than 50 bucks combined, so it's not as if I made a
full outlay for these titles, yet I'm just not sure what to do.
Someone please decide for me so I can at least cast the blame on some
anonymous internet figure when and if they all end up becoming coasters
in the near or relatively distant future.
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> like to avoid buying any more<BR>> of these in the future if possible.
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Allen
djs259 wrote:
> I guess what this question all boils down to is whether or not anyone
> here strongly believes, based on their best judgement, that this thin
> hazy residue will eventually kill these "new" discs by somehow eating
> through the labels. I still have two more sets that I have not yet
> unsealed, namely, a four disc London Tristan Und Isolde and a three
> disc London Strauss Die Frau Ohne Schatten, both marked 1992. I did
> get them for less than 50 bucks combined, so it's not as if I made a
> full outlay for these titles, yet I'm just not sure what to do.
> Someone please decide for me so I can at least cast the blame on some
> anonymous internet figure when and if they all end up becoming coasters
> in the near or relatively distant future.
>
>
I don't know if anyone has suggested this, but if you have any doubt
whatsoever about their longevity, you should burn copies of them and
store them in a safe place--i.e., away from excessive heat and light.
Cheap, easy insurance.
Allen