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Johan van Veen

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Mar 18, 2010, 6:35:37 PM3/18/10
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EM schreef:
> There is a substantial amount of baroque music from Latin American
> countries such as Bolivia, Brazil, Mexico and Peru, or better their
> colonial predecessors. Quite a number of, or most, composers were not
> born there, but came from e.g. Spain, Portugal or Italy. Most of the
> music is of a religious nature afaik and some of it is quite good, or
> at least pleasant to listen to imho.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPfwfxspyRA
>
> Is there any interesting baroque music from what are now Canada and
> the USA? Not all settlers were calvinists, I assume. Any
> recommendations? Just wondering and being curious.
>
> EM


There is a disc on Channel Classics from 1993, entitled "Christmas in
Early America: Carols and Anthems 1700-1800". It was recorded by the
Columbus Consort (never heard of them since, BTW).

Boston Baroque has recorded "Lost Music of Early America - Music of the
Moravians" (see:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2008/Apr08/lost_music_cd80482.htm).

Recently a recording was reissued by Warner Classics of an original
Erato release under the title "The Enlightenment in the New World:
18th-Century American Harpsichord Music", played by Olivier Baumont.


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Mar 18, 2010, 8:06:28 PM3/18/10
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In article <hnu9si$ffh$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Johan van Veen
<"jvveen[nospam]"@ziggo.nl> wrote:

> EM schreef:
> > There is a substantial amount of baroque music from Latin American
> > countries such as Bolivia, Brazil, Mexico and Peru, or better their
> > colonial predecessors. Quite a number of, or most, composers were not
> > born there, but came from e.g. Spain, Portugal or Italy. Most of the
> > music is of a religious nature afaik and some of it is quite good, or
> > at least pleasant to listen to imho.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPfwfxspyRA
> >
> > Is there any interesting baroque music from what are now Canada and
> > the USA? Not all settlers were calvinists, I assume. Any
> > recommendations? Just wondering and being curious.
> >
> > EM
>
>
> There is a disc on Channel Classics from 1993, entitled "Christmas in
> Early America: Carols and Anthems 1700-1800". It was recorded by the
> Columbus Consort (never heard of them since, BTW).
>
> Boston Baroque has recorded "Lost Music of Early America - Music of the
> Moravians" (see:
>
> http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2008/Apr08/lost_music_cd80482.h
> tm).
>
> Recently a recording was reissued by Warner Classics of an original
> Erato release under the title "The Enlightenment in the New World:
> 18th-Century American Harpsichord Music", played by Olivier Baumont.

You might also want to check the discography of the Boston Camarata,
who have done some work in this area. Check out:

<http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/performers/cohen.html>

-Owen

Allen

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Mar 19, 2010, 12:14:04 PM3/19/10
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Johan van Veen wrote:
> EM schreef:
>> There is a substantial amount of baroque music from Latin American
>> countries such as Bolivia, Brazil, Mexico and Peru, or better their
>> colonial predecessors. Quite a number of, or most, composers were not
>> born there, but came from e.g. Spain, Portugal or Italy. Most of the
>> music is of a religious nature afaik and some of it is quite good, or
>> at least pleasant to listen to imho.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPfwfxspyRA
>>
>> Is there any interesting baroque music from what are now Canada and
>> the USA? Not all settlers were calvinists, I assume. Any
>> recommendations? Just wondering and being curious.
>>
>> EM
>
>
> There is a disc on Channel Classics from 1993, entitled "Christmas in
> Early America: Carols and Anthems 1700-1800". It was recorded by the
> Columbus Consort (never heard of them since, BTW).
>
> Boston Baroque has recorded "Lost Music of Early America - Music of the
> Moravians" (see:
> http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2008/Apr08/lost_music_cd80482.htm).
>
>
> Recently a recording was reissued by Warner Classics of an original
> Erato release under the title "The Enlightenment in the New World:
> 18th-Century American Harpsichord Music", played by Olivier Baumont.
>
>
I was going to mention the Boston Baroque CD, but you beat me to it. It
is music from the Moravian (more properly, United Brethren) colonies in
the now-US. The Moravians were truly dedicated to music, to the extent
that some works by Haydn, Mozart and others received their North
American premieres in their communitiesth of my grandmothers were from
Moravian stock, which perhaps helps to explain my lifelong interest in
music.
Allen

Alan Cooper

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Mar 19, 2010, 11:15:45 AM3/19/10
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EM <emmemmme...@gnail.com> wrote in
news:4ba2a355$0$28148$5fc...@news.tiscali.nl:

> There is a substantial amount of baroque music from Latin
> American countries such as Bolivia, Brazil, Mexico and Peru, or
> better their colonial predecessors. Quite a number of, or most,
> composers were not born there, but came from e.g. Spain,
> Portugal or Italy. Most of the music is of a religious nature
> afaik and some of it is quite good, or at least pleasant to
> listen to imho.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPfwfxspyRA
>
> Is there any interesting baroque music from what are now Canada
> and the USA? Not all settlers were calvinists, I assume. Any
> recommendations? Just wondering and being curious.

An interesting counterpoint to the fascinating church music from Latin America and
the Moravian hymns is a Naxos CD in the Milken Archive series entitled "Jewish
Voices of the New World," mainly music of the Sephardic community of New
Amsterdam.

A chunk of J. Bunker Clark's Anthology of Early American Keyboard Music, 1787-1830
is viewable on Google Books; you'll see a list of the composers who are included
and musical scores as well. The work was published by A-R Editions, which has a
series that includes much early American music. See
https://www.areditions.com/rr/rra.html . To single out one non-vocal item, I
enjoy the so-called "Philadelphia" Sonatas of Alexander Reinagle, similar in style
to the keyboard works of C.P.E. Bach, which I suppose one would not consider
"baroque." Reinagle was English by birth and only arrived in the US when he was
about 30 years old, but he became an important and influential figure in American
musical life. I have Jack Winerock's pioneering recording of Reinagle's sonatas
on MHS LP, but I believe that there is at least one later recording available on
CD.

AC

Allen

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Mar 19, 2010, 6:00:19 PM3/19/10
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Alan Cooper wrote:
> EM <emmemmme...@gnail.com> wrote in
> news:4ba2a355$0$28148$5fc...@news.tiscali.nl:
>
>> There is a substantial amount of baroque music from Latin
>> American countries such as Bolivia, Brazil, Mexico and Peru, or
>> better their colonial predecessors. Quite a number of, or most,
>> composers were not born there, but came from e.g. Spain,
>> Portugal or Italy. Most of the music is of a religious nature
>> afaik and some of it is quite good, or at least pleasant to
>> listen to imho.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPfwfxspyRA
>>
>> Is there any interesting baroque music from what are now Canada
>> and the USA? Not all settlers were calvinists, I assume. Any
>> recommendations? Just wondering and being curious.
>
> An interesting counterpoint to the fascinating church music from Latin America and
> the Moravian hymns is a Naxos CD in the Milken Archive series entitled "Jewish
> Voices of the New World," mainly music of the Sephardic community of New
> Amsterdam.

Thanks, Alan. I somehow missed that one when it appeared. I'll have to
pick it up at the first opportunity. That Milken set has some great
things in it, e.g. Milhaud's Sacred Service and the Genesis Suite, done
by various composers but put together by Nathaniel Schilkret, as I
recall. Also an interesting Klezmer disc.
Allen

Alan Cooper

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Mar 19, 2010, 5:17:01 PM3/19/10
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Allen <all...@austin.rr.com> wrote in
news:CfidnbXw79VKSj7W...@giganews.com:

Well, let's say that the "Jewish Voices" collection is rather specialized and
mainly of historical and ethnographic interest. I had dinner last week with Neil
Levin, who reported that Milken has enough material for another hundred CDs "in
the can" (or maybe it's another 50 for a total of 100). Some amazing stuff,
including private recordings of major artists and a previously unknown work for
viola by Bloch. I was delighted and amused to learn that there is a complete
Jewish New Year service with Richard Tucker as cantor, clandestinely recorded
during the holiday in violation of traditional Jewish law and practice.

AC

woytek

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Mar 20, 2010, 3:06:02 AM3/20/10
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On 18 Mar, 23:04, EM <emmemmmemnmme...@gnail.com> wrote:
> There is a substantial amount of baroque music from Latin American
> countries such as Bolivia, Brazil, Mexico and Peru, or better their
> colonial predecessors. Quite a number of, or most, composers were not
> born there, but came from e.g. Spain, Portugal or Italy.  Most of the
> music is of a religious nature afaik and some of it is quite good, or
> at least pleasant to listen to imho.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPfwfxspyRA
>
> Is there any interesting baroque music from what are now Canada and
> the USA? Not all settlers were calvinists, I assume. Any
> recommendations? Just wondering and being curious.
>
> EM

Two titles with baroque music from North America are available from
K617 - label which introduced baroque music from Latin America in the
nineties with great interpretations of Gabriel Garrido Ensemble Elyma.
Full "American" catalogue:
http://www.cd-baroque.com/index.php/cdbaroque/accueil/disques_k617/catalogue/baroque_latino_americain/(type)/collection
Music from Quebec:
http://www.cd-baroque.com/index.php/cdbaroque/accueil/disques_k617/catalogue/baroque_latino_americain/montreal_et_indiens_abenakis
and Louisiana:
http://www.cd-baroque.com/index.php/cdbaroque/accueil/disques_k617/catalogue/baroque_latino_americain/manuscrit_des_ursulines_de_la_nouvelle_orleans

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