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superb Mahler 4 by Ivan Fischer

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Gerard

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May 2, 2010, 9:56:12 AM5/2/10
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I'm listening right now (FM radio) to a recording made on April 23 of a
performance of symphonie 4 by Mahler. The Concertgebouw Orchestra is conducted
by Ivan Fischer.
This is fantastic!
Recently he has recorded this symphony on Channel Classics with his Budapest
Festival Orchestra.
Is that recording as good as this ;-?


Bob Harper

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May 2, 2010, 11:50:59 AM5/2/10
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David Hurwitz seems to think so, with the caveat that the tam-tam is
insufficiently loud :)
http://classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=12151

Bob Harper

Gerard

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May 2, 2010, 11:56:47 AM5/2/10
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In this case I'm not "afraid" of believing him.
I've seen a lot of enthousiastic recommendations (reviews) on different Amazon
sites, and on a page of Channel Classics. For some this is the "best recording
ever" of this symphony.
Probably no one has heard both that recording and the Concertgebouw performance.
But still I'm curious to know if the recording is better .. or not.


jrsnfld

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May 2, 2010, 12:59:41 PM5/2/10
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I haven't heard the Concertgebouw performance yet, nor the CD, but I
remember liking two other performances of Mahler 4 with Fischer
conducting (Budapest Ph and one other orchestra, which I can't recall
at the moment) about as much as any I've heard in recent years. I
think you can buy the CD with confidence, unless it's not at least
based on a live performance. Even if it isn't, it's still probably
quite good.

--Jeff

Thornhill

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May 2, 2010, 2:06:22 PM5/2/10
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On May 2, 8:56 am, "Gerard" <ghen_nospam_driksenþ@hotmail.com> wrote:

I haven't heard the Concertgebouw radio recording, but I have the
Channel Classics version with the BFO and I like it quite a bit --
much more than their Mahler 6. I'd say that the ecstatic reviews it
has received are on point, though I'm not quite ready to declare it
the best recording ever.

operafan

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May 2, 2010, 3:08:27 PM5/2/10
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I haven't heard the Concertgebouw performance, but I thought the
string playing on the Channel Classics was not so hot, and the
recorded sound lacked atmosphere (in multichannel SACD).

Thornhill

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May 2, 2010, 4:42:34 PM5/2/10
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I think it sounds pretty outstanding in multichannel SACD.

Bob Lombard

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May 2, 2010, 5:16:29 PM5/2/10
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On 5/2/2010 4:42 PM, Thornhill wrote:
> On May 2, 2:08 pm, operafan<peter.bar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 2, 9:56 am, "Gerard"<ghen_nospam_driksen�@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm listening right now (FM radio) to a recording made on April 23 of a
>>> performance of symphonie 4 by Mahler. The Concertgebouw Orchestra is conducted
>>> by Ivan Fischer.
>>> This is fantastic!
>>> Recently he has recorded this symphony on Channel Classics with his Budapest
>>> Festival Orchestra.
>>> Is that recording as good as this ;-?
>>
>> I haven't heard the Concertgebouw performance, but I thought the
>> string playing on the Channel Classics was not so hot, and the
>> recorded sound lacked atmosphere (in multichannel SACD).
>
> I think it sounds pretty outstanding in multichannel SACD.

'operafan' probably has a sound system not approved by _either_
William or Bill.

bl

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J.Martin

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May 3, 2010, 2:51:53 PM5/3/10
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>
> I think it sounds pretty outstanding in multichannel SACD.

I think it sounds quite good in stereo SACD.

As a peformance, it's a bit hard to describe, and not easily likened
to any particular school. For example, the opening eschews the whole
"trainwreck" effect of contrasting tempos, with everything skating
along at the same brisk pace, yet the quiet episode closing the first
movement is more slowed and drawn out than usual. Generally speaking,
the faster sections are played with restraint throughout but Fischer
seems to enjoy milking the slow passages, including the adagio as a
whole, which is nicely done here. I can't think of any reason why the
OP or anyone else who has enjoyed Fischer's Mahler wouldn't enjoy this.

operafan

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May 3, 2010, 7:30:07 PM5/3/10
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On May 2, 5:16 pm, Bob Lombard <thorsteinnos...@vermontel.net> wrote:
> On 5/2/2010 4:42 PM, Thornhill wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 2:08 pm, operafan<peter.bar...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On May 2, 9:56 am, "Gerard"<ghen_nospam_driksenþ@hotmail.com>  wrote:

>
> >>> I'm listening right now (FM radio) to a recording made on April 23 of a
> >>> performance of symphonie 4 by Mahler. The Concertgebouw Orchestra is conducted
> >>> by Ivan Fischer.
> >>> This is fantastic!
> >>> Recently he has recorded this symphony on Channel Classics with his Budapest
> >>> Festival Orchestra.
> >>> Is that recording as good as this ;-?
>
> >> I haven't heard the Concertgebouw performance, but I thought the
> >> string playing on the Channel Classics was not so hot, and the
> >> recorded sound lacked atmosphere (in multichannel SACD).
>
> > I think it sounds pretty outstanding in multichannel SACD.
>
> 'operafan' probably has a sound system not approved by _either_
> William or Bill.

Mahler came to me while I was in a trance and he said that my audio
system really kicked ass.

stateworkers

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May 3, 2010, 8:37:13 PM5/3/10
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On May 2, 9:56 am, "Gerard" <ghen_nospam_driksenþ@hotmail.com> wrote:

I heard a Mahler 4 recording from Bartok Radio FM once, that was all
this and more, with
Adrienn Miks - voice
Hungarian Radio Symphony Orchestra
Stephen D'Agostino - conductor
1 October, 2009, Budapest, Franz Liszt Academy of Music

if the Channel recording is anything like it, I'd consider that a
definite Desert Island Mahler Fourth.
Same Orchestra, different conductor, I know. Let's say it's something
about a hungarian violin section swinging, swashbuckling, knee deep in
rustic feel, sounding like they own the heart of the detuned
netherworld violin section on the second movement, among other
wonders.


Guillermo

http://statework.blogspot.com


stateworkers

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May 3, 2010, 8:50:35 PM5/3/10
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Sorry. Lame to mention something like this and not make it available
if it is a broadcast and rare as such:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=50ae659d938e90f3ab1eab3e9fa335ca4d4f6b8031f9d2ca
I understand you can ask for a copy here, too:
E-mail: concerts...@rte.ie

Mahler 4
+ other

> Adrienn Miks - voice
> Hungarian Radio Symphony Orchestra
> Stephen D'Agostino - conductor
> 1 October, 2009, Budapest, Franz Liszt Academy of Music

OK

>  Guillermo
>
> http://statework.blogspot.com

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