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A Sutherland Mistake (Unnoticed}
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meyers...@gmail.com
Mar 24, 2018, 3:49:25 PM3/24/18
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Joan Sutherland to my knowledge rarely made mistakes in performance but she made a whopper in her very first Norma in Vancouver in 1963. I was listening to the Immortal Performance mastering of the performance which is excellent. She sings the first stanza of the Casta Diva but halfway through that stanza she loses her way and sings the second half of the second stanza instead of the first. She then goes on to sing the cabaletta so we get half of the Casta Diva. The odd thing is that this is not only not annotated in the booklet and the Immortal booklets usually pull no punches but is not mentioned in any of the reviews I have read of the recording, Makes you wonder how closely some reviewers are listening and this was not a minor error
gggg...@gmail.com
Mar 24, 2018, 3:56:44 PM3/24/18
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On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 9:49:25 AM UTC-10, meyers...@gmail.com wrote:
> Joan Sutherland to my knowledge rarely made mistakes in performance but she made a whopper in her very first Norma in Vancouver in 1963. I was listening to the Immortal Performance mastering of the performance which is excellent. She sings the first stanza of the Casta Diva but halfway through that stanza she loses her way and sings the second half of the second stanza instead of the first. She then goes on to sing the cabaletta so we get half of the Casta Diva. The odd thing is that this is not only not annotated in the booklet and the Immortal booklets usually pull no punches but is not mentioned in any of the reviews I have read of the recording, Makes you wonder how closely some reviewers are listening and this was not a minor error
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> Joan Sutherland to my knowledge rarely made mistakes in performance but she made a whopper in her very first Norma in Vancouver in 1963. I was listening to the Immortal Performance mastering of the performance which is excellent. She sings the first stanza of the Casta Diva but halfway through that stanza she loses her way and sings the second half of the second stanza instead of the first. She then goes on to sing the cabaletta so we get half of the Casta Diva. The odd thing is that this is not only not annotated in the booklet and the Immortal booklets usually pull no punches but is not mentioned in any of the reviews I have read of the recording, Makes you wonder how closely some reviewers are listening and this was not a minor error
meyers...@gmail.com
Mar 24, 2018, 5:01:16 PM3/24/18
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gggg...@gmail.com
Mar 24, 2018, 6:31:24 PM3/24/18
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vhorowitz
Mar 25, 2018, 3:13:25 PM3/25/18
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Really? Knowing how little reviewers are paid do you really think this is possible? Half of next to nothing is all they’re going to get. Period. Some kind of royalty? For this kind of label?? If you’ve got something to back that claim up, I’d be most curious!
As to critics missing things, aside from a comment on this youtube page (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PmpwrvvjhHQ), I have yet to read a review that seems aware that Magda Tagliaferro stops playing for half a minute (at around 3:40) in this Prokofiev 3rd concerto video, issued by Doremi (with no disclaimer). It’s nice that stuff like this survives, but it does no one any favors to ignore or gloss over such things.
As to critics missing things, aside from a comment on this youtube page (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PmpwrvvjhHQ), I have yet to read a review that seems aware that Magda Tagliaferro stops playing for half a minute (at around 3:40) in this Prokofiev 3rd concerto video, issued by Doremi (with no disclaimer). It’s nice that stuff like this survives, but it does no one any favors to ignore or gloss over such things.
gggg gggg
Sep 26, 2022, 10:34:02 AM9/26/22
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On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 12:49:25 PM UTC-7, meyers...@gmail.com wrote:
> Joan Sutherland to my knowledge rarely made mistakes in performance but she made a whopper in her very first Norma in Vancouver in 1963. I was listening to the Immortal Performance mastering of the performance which is excellent. She sings the first stanza of the Casta Diva but halfway through that stanza she loses her way and sings the second half of the second stanza instead of the first. She then goes on to sing the cabaletta so we get half of the Casta Diva. The odd thing is that this is not only not annotated in the booklet and the Immortal booklets usually pull no punches but is not mentioned in any of the reviews I have read of the recording, Makes you wonder how closely some reviewers are listening and this was not a minor error
On her recording of Mozart's "Vorrei spiegarvi O Dio", she simply doesn't sing the highest note.
> Joan Sutherland to my knowledge rarely made mistakes in performance but she made a whopper in her very first Norma in Vancouver in 1963. I was listening to the Immortal Performance mastering of the performance which is excellent. She sings the first stanza of the Casta Diva but halfway through that stanza she loses her way and sings the second half of the second stanza instead of the first. She then goes on to sing the cabaletta so we get half of the Casta Diva. The odd thing is that this is not only not annotated in the booklet and the Immortal booklets usually pull no punches but is not mentioned in any of the reviews I have read of the recording, Makes you wonder how closely some reviewers are listening and this was not a minor error
Neither did Maria Stader.
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