Mozart 38 - Maag/LSO (Decca)
Matthew Silverstein
have with me. What a wonderful symphony this is--easily my favorite by
Mozart. All four recordings (Klemperer/Testament, Bruggen, Pinnock,
Maag/LSO) are excellent in their own ways, but the Maag/LSO recording (long
OOP--a friend made a copy for me) is really something special: propulsive,
exuberant, dynamic (and gorgeously played). The winds may not be quite as
prominent as they are on Klemperer's recording, but it all other respects I
prefer Maag. It may be my single favorite Mozart recording! Why on earth
hasn't this be reissued in the Decca Legends series? (Is it available
anywhere?)
Matty
Jaime J. Weinman
It was released (along with Maag's recordings of Mozart symphony 32,
and the Clarinet Concerto with De Peyer) on a Japanese "Classic Sound"
CD. I got my copy from amazon.co.jp, but it appears to be OOP now. The
catalogue number is POCL-9787. It is an extraordinary recording, I
agree -- probably the first recording I'd play for people who think
Mozart's music is tame and cutesy. No one could think that after
hearing this recording.
Paul Goldstein
Japan, of course.
You may want to try Britten's as well, which remains my favorite alone with the
Decca Maag.
Paul Goldstein
Jeff Melancon
"Posthorn" Serenade (all with the Orchestre de la Suisse Romande) have been
reissued on Testament SBT 1318. No word yet on the 38th Symphony you
mention.
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Tlhman
>agree -- probably the first recording I'd play for people who think
>Mozart's music is tame and cutesy. No one could think that after
>hearing this recording.
>
Tanglewood series of concerts devoted to Mozart that is a firebrand of a 38th
as well.
It is the final piece in his July 13, 1962 concert, preceded by the Mozart 25
piano concerto and a four movement version of the Gran Partita.
The orchestra, I believe, is chamber orchestra size but the performance is very
muscular.
Best,
Tom Heilman
Ansermetniac
hasn't this be reissued in the Decca Legends series?>>
It is probably because no one at Decca today knows who Maag is. Before the
demise of London Records in the U.S. they did not put Ansermet on their
website. No one has ever accused Decca management of having any brains. Not
yesterday not today. Just read John Cullshaw's book .
Try Casals 38 if you can find it on lp. As much fun as it is to listen to
the Prague, it is even more fun to play it. Even with valveless horn parts.
When you get to that famous cadance in the first movement, before the
beautiful theme, you get amazed at what one could do with I IV and V if you
know how
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Testament release. The uncredited Posthornist is Paolo Longinotti
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There is also Maag's more recent 38th with an Italian orchestra on
the Arts label which, though quite enjoyable, is probably not in
the same league as the Decca, which I haven't heard.
Marc Perman
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> There is also Maag's more recent 38th with an Italian orchestra on
> the Arts label which, though quite enjoyable, is probably not in
> the same league as the Decca, which I haven't heard.
No need to go without a fine 38. HvK's scintillating version (c1978) is
readily available.
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Bob Harper
Marc Perman wrote:
>
>
> There is also Maag's more recent 38th with an Italian orchestra on
> the Arts label which, though quite enjoyable, is probably not in
> the same league as the Decca, which I haven't heard.
>
> Marc Perman
>
>
I was going to bring up Maag's late recordings of Symphonies 31-41. What
do folks out there think of them? I like them myself, but would love to
have the opportunity to hear the earlier 38.
Bob Harper
Marc Perman
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> I was going to bring up Maag's late recordings of Symphonies
31-41. What
> do folks out there think of them? I like them myself, but would
love to
> have the opportunity to hear the earlier 38.
I like them too, though they wouldn't be first choices given the
second tier orchestras. I have them in the Arts Maag tribute box,
a terrific bargain.
Marc Perman
Edward A. Cowan
On London (a.k.a. Decca) I have the following:
London Stereo Treasury STS 15087: MOZART: Syms. 32 and 38 (LSO)
London Jubilee JL 41015: MOZART: Four Horn Concerti (w. Barry
Tuckwell) (LSO)
London CS 6178: MOZART: Clarinet Concerto (w. Gervase de Peyer) and
Horn Con. nos. 1 and 3 (w. Tuckwell, as above) (LSO)
London Stereo Treasury STS 15088: MOZART: Notturno for four
Orchestras, K.286; Serenata Notturna, K.239; Overture to _Lucio
Silla_, K.135; Interludes from King Thamos, K.345 (LSO)
London LL 1357: MOZART: Pf. con. no.12, K.415 and no.20, K.466 (Julius
Katchen) (New SO of London) (mono)
There are also several Mozart recordings by Peter Maag on Vox:
Vox Turnabout TV 34194: MOZART: Pf. con. no.26, K.537, "Coronation"
(Vienna Volksoper Orch.), and the Sonata in D, K.576, and the Fantasy
in D-minor, K.397. (Walter Klien, pf.)
Vox Turnabout TV 34178: MOZART: Pf. con. no.24 in C-min., K.491
(Vienna Volksoper Orch.), and Sonata in C-min., K.491, and Fantasy in
C-min., K.475 (Walter Klien, pf.)
Vox Turnabout TV 34213-14 (two LP's): MOZART: Complete Masonic Music
(Vienna Volksoper Orch.)
Vox SVBX 5122 (three LP's): MOZART: Syms. 35-36, 38-41 (Philharmonica
Hungarica)
I was fortunate enough to attend Met tour performances in Dallas of
Mozart's _Don Giovanni_ and _Die Zauberflöte_ conducted by Peter Maag
as well as a very fine one of Verdi's _La traviata_ with a
particularly strong cast of principals: Adriana Maliponte as Violetta,
the young José Carreras as Alfredo, and Matteo Manuguerra in his one
and only Met appearance in the role of Giorgio Germont.
--E.A.C. (not forgetting Peter Maag's splendid recordings of
Mendelssohn's MSND incidental music!)
Matthew Silverstein
> There is also Maag's more recent 38th with an Italian orchestra on
> the Arts label which, though quite enjoyable, is probably not in
> the same league as the Decca, which I haven't heard.
BH replied:
> I was going to bring up Maag's late recordings of Symphonies 31-41. What
> do folks out there think of them? I like them myself, but would love to
> have the opportunity to hear the earlier 38.
I have only the disc with 38 and 39, and I think it's pretty good--just not
as good as the Decca recording.
Matty
Simon Roberts
says...
>
> <<Why on earth
>hasn't this be reissued in the Decca Legends series?>>
>
>
>It is probably because no one at Decca today knows who Maag is.
That's not likely - they issued a CD in their Legendary Recordings series a
couple of years ago containing other Maag Mozart recordings he made around the
same time with the LSO, including his yet-to-be-surpassed sym 32.
Simon
Simon Roberts
>
>
>I was going to bring up Maag's late recordings of Symphonies 31-41. What
>do folks out there think of them? I like them myself, but would love to
>have the opportunity to hear the earlier 38.
I like them too, but they're quite different from his earlier Mozart, which is
more lean-toned and a bit more vigorous. The Arts 38 has much warmer, fuller
string sound, much more prominent/noisier horns (the winds and timpani are
somewhat louder/more prominent too), and, in some of the phrasing in the first
movement (and perhaps elsewhere; I can't remember) suggests Harnoncourt's
influence (I refer to Harnoncourt's distinctive in-your-face legato where
everyone else separates the notes; if I had a score handy I could be more
specific, but once heard it's not readily forgotten).
Simon
Paul Goldstein
I like Maag's Padova e Veneto Mozart recordings very much, but that old LSO 38
is really something special.
Paul Goldstein
Ramon Khalona
Perhaps it will be. As others have pointed out, there was a Japanese
release with the 32nd symphony and the Clarinet Concerto with De
Peyer, which contains
my favorite recordings of all three works. This is one of those discs
to take to the proverbial desert island. Japanese Decca has also
released an additional disc with Maag's recordings of Mozart's 29th
symphony, German Dances, and Posthorn Serenade (these, excepting the
German dances, but including the 34th symphony will be included in the
upcoming Maag set on Testament), all with the Suisse Romande, which
was the first orchestra he recorded with as Ansermet's assistant. The
sound on these recordings is much inferior to that of the LSO stereo
recordings, but the performances are very interesting, especially the
34th symphony which was a Maag specialty from the beginning. That
34th was originally released with the 28th symphony (also with OSR) on
a very old Decca LP which I received thanks to a very kind contributor
here.
What would make sense, given the upcoming Testament release, is either
another Testament or Decca Legends CD pairing the LSO Prague recording
with the OSR 28th to fill the gap (perhaps the German Dances could be
squeezed in since they haven't been released on CD outside Japan).
Maag's recording of the Prague Symphony for Vox, with the Philharmonia
Hungarica, is also very fine, but neither this orchestra nor the
Padova Orchestra (for his recordings on the ARTS label) is as good as
the LSO was.
I am very fond of Maag's late Mozart recordings in Italy. I doubt, as
Simon points out, that he was influenced by Harnoncourt in any way, as
he was a pretty independent fellow, but of course nothing is
impossible. It's sad that he passed before he could have another go
at the Schubert symphonies with Padova, as he was very fond of these
symphonies and had recorded them all with the Philharmonia Hungarica
for Vox. Those who haven't heard his Beethoven recordings might enjoy
the 9th he did with Padova, which is much better recorded than the
rest (the Eroica suffers from obtrusive reverberation, which detracts
significantly from a very fine performance).
Finally, he did get to record the first five Mendelssohn symphonies
with the Madrid Symphony for ARTS. I don't think his recording of the
Scottish is as good as the legendary LSO recording, or that the
recording of the Italian is as good as his wonderful recording with
the Berne Symphony (on IMP), but the rest fill an important gap in his
discography, as he was as good a Mendelssohn interpreter as he was of
Mozart.
Ramon Khalona
notrump15-17
first two movements a bit under-accented and slightly on the slow side; the
finale, though, really takes off like a bat! Another recommendation: Colin
Davis-BBC on Philips early 60s. This has a more propulsive and
sharply-etched I & II (alas, no expo repeat in II). Davis' III is only
presto as compared to Maag's near prestissimo. "Matthew Silverstein"
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