Brahms' Haydn Variations
Lothian
Lothian
Chicago, IL
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"Lothian" <lot...@nospam.compinnovations.com> wrote:
> Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
I've accumulated more recordings of this piece than any other - not out
of design, but because it is used so often to fill Brahms symphony
discs. The one I like most is Bruno Walter/Columbia SO on Sony, which
is best at finding something interesting and different about each
variation, and building the piece to a genuine climax.
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Simon Roberts
: Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
Hard to narrow it down, but off the top of my head if I were to
choose one it would be Casals/Sony or Monteux/Decca.
Simon
Ehrlich606
>In article <8o3nai$a...@dispatch.concentric.net>,
> "Lothian" <lot...@nospam.compinnovations.com> wrote:
>> Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
>
>of design, but because it is used so often to fill Brahms symphony
>discs. The one I like most is Bruno Walter/Columbia SO on Sony, which
>is best at finding something interesting and different about each
>variation, and building the piece to a genuine climax.
>
My favorite too. The detail of the sound has something to do with it. Note
that in this recording you can hear the childlike percussion on the false
entrance of the theme, I always thought that this represented Brahms
referencing Papa Haydn and the Toy Symphony, based on a theme by Haydn. The
irony of course is that neither of these are in fact by Haydn.
The piece is an allegory of death, life, death, rebirth, funeral dirge become
children's song. Walter understood this.
barry7665
Of the many performances he led that are available on CD,
the two best are probably the wartime BPO and 1951 NDR
Symphony.
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Matthew B. Tepper
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> Lothian (lot...@nospam.compinnovations.com) wrote:
> : Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
>
> choose one it would be Casals/Sony or Monteux/Decca.
Um, Simon's that's two, not one. ;--) But I heartily endorse Monteux,
and for historicals am divided between Toscanini/New York P-SO
(preferably on Pearl) and Furtwängler 1951(?) (preferably on Tahra).
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Jeremy Dimmick
beautifully shaped, elegant and eloquent - in a Double Decca with the 1st
and 2nd symphonies (also VPO) and Serenade no. 2 (LSO).
"Lothian" <lot...@nospam.compinnovations.com> wrote in message
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> Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
>
> Lothian
> Chicago, IL
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samir ghiocel golescu
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> Um, Simon's that's two, not one. ;--) But I heartily endorse Monteux,
> and for historicals am divided between Toscanini/New York P-SO
> (preferably on Pearl)
one of Toscanini's best recordings--I owned it in my meager "78"
collection
> and Furtwängler 1951(?) (preferably on Tahra).
if it is with NDR orchestra and on Tahra is probably 1951, yes.
regards,
SG
Hat NYC 62
Other than the less than perfect sonics, I have to say Szell is as ideal as it
gets. The Swallisch in the Philly set is also superb.
I bet Bohm would be very good in this piece. And probably Kertesz too.
David Hattner, NYC
Ehrlich606
>I bet Bohm would be very good in this piece. And probably Kertesz too.
>
Bohm is good in this piece, takes it slow (20 mins) and the speeds are great
for the horn variation. My second favorite to Walter.
BTW, Bohm is 14 minutes in the Tragic.
Hat NYC 62
Isn't that in the Szell ballpark as well? Not surprising.
samir ghiocel golescu
<< BTW, Bohm is 14 minutes in the Tragic. >>
Um, English syntax! We would say "BTW, Bohm is tragic in the 14 minutes"!
George Murnu
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> Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
>
> Chicago, IL
Furtwangler / NDR.
Regards,
George
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John Rethorst
> > Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
> >
Szell.
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Ward Hardman
: Simon Roberts wrote:
:>
:> : Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
:> Hard to narrow it down, but off the top of my head if I were to
:> choose one it would be Casals/Sony or Monteux/Decca.
: Um, Simon's that's two, not one. ;--) [snip}
Not if he uses the "exclusive OR," then he just takes one of the two.
--Ward Hardman
Thomas Müthing
> In article <8o3nai$a...@dispatch.concentric.net>,
> "Lothian" <lot...@nospam.compinnovations.com> wrote:
> > Any recommendations for Variations on a Theme by Haydn?
Of the 7 recordings of that piece I've got, give me Toscanini/NBC Symphony
any day!
Thomas
Takeshi Hasegawa
A recording by Edward van Beinum with Concertgebouw orchestra, Amsterdam,
which was issued by Decca. This is really beautiful and accomplished!!
Takeshi Hasegawa
Stevevasta
>beautifully shaped, elegant and eloquent
Yes. There's also a certain elegiac quality to it, partly psychological -
Kertesz died before he recorded the Finale. The VPO recorded the Finale without
conductor to complete the recording.
Steve
Matthew B. Tepper
Quite true. I'm almost certain that somebody else also mentioned this.
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