Mozart wind concerti
MIFrost
bassoon) with Bohm conducting. I recently heard a disc of the Clarinet
Concerto with Michael Collins (?) on clarinet and Pletnev conducting.
It puts Bohm to shame. Bohm sounds stodgy by comparison. Pletnev is
lively and alert. Full of bounce and vigor. Now I'd like to hear the
other two concerti played this way. Any suggestions? Modern or HIP are
both welcome.
MIFrost
Steve Molino
believe they are still kicking around in a new incarnation. They are very
lively and well-played. My favorite for the Clarinet Concerto, which is the
only one I listen to with any frequency, is still the old De Peyer/Maag
recording on Decca.
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Simon Roberts
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For HIP, try the discs conducted by Hogwood; I'm not sure how or whether they're
available, but they were last seen packaged as a box of two or three discs. The
recording (with Anthony Pay) of the clarinet concerto is superb - you won't mind
the duplication. Harnoncourt's recording of the bassoon concerto is good too.
You probably don't need yet another suggestion for the clarinet concerto, but if
you want it in its pre-basset-clarinet guise, I don't think you'll find a better
recording than De Peyer/Maag on Decca.
Simon
Andrej Kluge
> and bassoon) with Bohm conducting. I recently heard a disc of the
> Clarinet Concerto with Michael Collins (?) on clarinet and Pletnev
> conducting. It puts Bohm to shame. Bohm sounds stodgy by
> comparison. Pletnev is lively and alert. Full of bounce and vigor.
Can anyone compare it with Sabine Meyer/Staatskapelle Dresden/Vonk (my
favorite non-HIP version)?
Btw, the clarinettist with Böhm is Alfred Prinz, isn't he?
> Now I'd like to hear the other two concerti played this way. Any
> suggestions? Modern or HIP are both welcome.
As for HIP, I like the Hoeprich/Brüggen version.
Ciao
A.
Alan Hayward
You could try Jack Brymer with Beecham conducting (EMI) or, even better,
Gervase de Peyer with Peter Maag (Decca).
Paul Goldstein
>
>Hallo MIFrost,
>
>> and bassoon) with Bohm conducting. I recently heard a disc of the
>> Clarinet Concerto with Michael Collins (?) on clarinet and Pletnev
>> conducting. It puts Bohm to shame. Bohm sounds stodgy by
>> comparison. Pletnev is lively and alert. Full of bounce and vigor.
>
>Can anyone compare it with Sabine Meyer/Staatskapelle Dresden/Vonk (my
>favorite non-HIP version)?
>
>Btw, the clarinettist with Böhm is Alfred Prinz, isn't he?
Yes. But Prinz recorded a better version of the concerto - indeed, my single
favorite, run very close by the De Peyer/Maag - with Munchinger and the VPO for
Decca.
Paul Goldstein
Victor
EMI. As for the Mozart bassoon, I think the Decca McGill/Dohnanyi/Cleveland
recording is excellent. It can be found on a CD that also includes Cohen
(clarinet cto.) and Mack (oboe cto.). Mack's rendition of the oboe cto. is
probably the weakest of the three. Despite what others say, I find Mack's
tone to be quite thin in this recording. A much better way to get the
McGill recording would be the Decca Double that also replaces the
abovementioned Cohen/Dohnanyi with the much lauded de Peyer/Maag recording.
Also included here are the 4 horn concerti performed by Tuckwell/Maag.
Alas, this compilation still uses Mack's recording, but, at the same price
as the Decca single mentioned above, it's definitely a better buy.
Victor
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Heck51
"Any suggestions? Modern or HIP are both welcome."
There are several excellent renditions of the bassoon concerto
available:
McGill/Dohnanyi/CO is superb
so is
Elliot/Abbado/CSO on DG
Garfield/Ormandy/PO is fine also.
all of these bassoonists are great artists.
my old favorite is Maurice Allard/Markevitch/Lamoureux on an old DG LP
from the 50s, I believe. I've not seen it on CD. The French bassoon
sound takes some getting used to, but the style and artistry are
outstanding.
a perfect example of the wonderful "souple" style of French playing -
so "vocal" and lyrical. he plays it like a big vocal aria for bassoon.
of course, the technique is impeccable, not even an issue. Allard
simply sails forth far above such mundane considerations!! LOL!!
I read somewhere that his wonderful Vivaldi concerto LP may have been
released on CD. Great!!
Ryan M. Hare
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> As for the Mozart bassoon, I think the Decca McGill/Dohnanyi/Cleveland
> recording is excellent. It can be found on a CD that also includes Cohen
> (clarinet cto.) and Mack (oboe cto.).
This is by far my favorite recording of the bassoon concerto from the point
of view of the soloist. The accompaniment could have more energy and
character, but it doesn't get in the way of McGill's truly superb playing.
In particular, he gets this amazingly "vocal" expressive quality in the
beautiful second movement. David McGill is arguably the finest bassoonist in
the U.S. these days.
Also a great is a disc for the bassoon concerto is with Milan Turkovic as
soloist, on Orfeo, with the Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra. Another really,
really beautifully done slow movement. This disc includes concerti by
Michael Haydn, Villa-Lobos, Francaix, and some Gershwin arrangements.
For HIP, my favorite is Danny Bond as soloist, with Hogwood and the AAM.
Danny Bond is a fabulous bassoonist by any standard, and certainly at the
top for period bassoon.
The Orpheus CO disc with Morelli is quite good as well, but I think the
others above are more disctinctive. Garfield and Phildelphia with Ormandy is
a classic, and I'm glad I own the Elliot/Abbado recording from the "Chicago
Principal" disc, but with both of these I think the ones above are more
interesting.
The intrepretation I like the best, however, is my own. ;)
No recording is available though! Too bad, because my cadenza for the first
movement kicks ass.
Ryan Hare
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Years ago, a friend raved to me of a performance he had just heard, which
happened to be the farewell of the Los Angeles Philharmonic's long-time
bassoonist, Frederick "Fritz" Moritz. Zubin Mehta conducted, and I imagine
it wasn't particularly Mozartean, but the soloist played well. A few years
ago I found a privately-pressed LP that Moritz made of his interpretation
of the work, with piano accompaniment, and it did increase my curiosity
about his performances of the work with orchestra.
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Darko Nemec
completely out-of-style (Stravinskian) cadenza in the first movement apart,
I love his cheek-in-tongue interpretation of the last movement which is in
my opinion better than any other I've heard. Besides, many bassoon players
use a lot of ornamentation, particularly in the slow movement (e.g. Benda on
Supraphon). How much of it is appropriate?
Regards,
once-used-to-be-ana-amateur-bassoonist
Darko
Bill Hunt
> A much better way to get the
> McGill recording would be the Decca Double that also replaces the
> abovementioned Cohen/Dohnanyi with the much lauded de Peyer/Maag recording.
> Also included here are the 4 horn concerti performed by Tuckwell/Maag.
> Alas, this compilation still uses Mack's recording, but, at the same price
> as the Decca single mentioned above, it's definitely a better buy.
>
> Victor
Both Amazon and ArkivMusic list the Double Decca.
arri bachrach
McGill/Dohnanyi/Cleveland
> > recording is excellent.
>
> of view of the soloist. The accompaniment could have more energy and
> character, but it doesn't get in the way of McGill's truly superb playing.
I have a live peformance of the Mozart that has even more energy
from McGill ; and the orchestra as well.... less cautious.
In particular, he gets this amazingly "vocal" expressive quality in
the
> beautiful second movement. David McGill is arguably the finest bassoonist in
> the U.S. these days.
>
no "argument".... without a doubt he is the most musical bassoonist
anywhere
>
> The intrepretation I like the best, however, is my own. ;)
don't we all feel the same :-)))
>
> No recording is available though! Too bad, because my cadenza for the first
> movement kicks ass.
>
> no doubt...
AB
Heck51
"David McGill is arguably the finest bassoonist in
the U.S. these days."
Agreed - he sounds really great.
"For HIP, my favorite is Danny Bond as soloist, with Hogwood and the
AAM.
Danny Bond is a fabulous bassoonist by any standard, and certainly at
the
top for period bassoon."
Danny was one of the first to realy get into the HIP performance on
basson, TMK - I knew him @ Eastman, he was there for a year or so,
then left for Holland[??] - to pursue the original instrument approach
"The Orpheus CO disc with Morelli is quite good as well"
I aim to get this one at some point. morelli is a fine player. I've
not heard his K191
Heck51
....I don't think you'll find a better recording than De Peyer/Maag on
Decca."
funny - nobody's mentioned yet the standard "bench-mark" Mozart
Clarinet concerto - the great Marcellus/Szell/Cleveland version. which
has many, many adherents. deservedly so, great playing.
One of my favorite things about the Szell/cleveland ensemble was the
wonderful combination of Marcellus/Goslee on clarinet/bassoon. What a
great sound!!
gggg gggg
"Mozart: Complete Wind Concertos"