Is Myung-Whun Chung a good conductor?
Cantor
Alex
"Cantor" <jl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is Myung-Whun Chung a good conductor?
Only judging him from recordings, but I like his Scheherazade very much, his
Dvorak is pretty good also.
Jan Hoving
"Cantor" <jl...@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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> Is Myung-Whun Chung a good conductor?
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Of course he's a good conductor, he's a damn good conductor. Listen e.g. to
his Symphonie Fantastique (Berlioz). No one has ever given a better
performance of this wonderful work than MWC.
Matthew B. Tepper
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His other Berlioz recordings, "Harold en italie" and "Roméo et Juliette,"
are pretty fine too.
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Guus
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Thanks. I've been looking for the best recording for many, many years. Finally
I know which one is the best.
Jan Hoving
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Please tell us which one is the best.
Sol L. Siegel
-Sol Siegel, Philadelphia, PA
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Guus
Recently somebody wrote about a conductor "No one has ever given a better
performance of this wonderful work". I can't remember his name. I will have a
look in the archives if you're interested.
GMS
Cantor wrote:
> Is Myung-Whun Chung a good conductor?
I've worked with him----in Cleveland in the early '80's. I know of the
contempt with which orchestral players are held by many in this group,
but I have to chime in and say that I found him phenominally boring.
If recordings with him sound good, it's because the musicians are
rising to the occasion in spite of him----a concept that is foreign to
many in this newsgroup.
Happy Holidays, Mr. Ellsworth (and others).
Lawrence Chalmers
the early BIS cycle with the Gotenburg...
Jan Hoving
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No dear Guus, we're only interested in the best recording. Please let us
know which one you consider as the best.
Paul Goldstein
- both are extremely good. (I was surprised because I didn't like his DGG
Dvorak 7 at all.)
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Paul Goldstein
normanstrong
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Is this the same fellow who conducted the Gotheburg SO in Nielsen's
3rd symphony on the Sony label? If so, he's wonderful.
Norm Strong
David7Gable
>contempt with which orchestral players are held by many in this group
I can't believe that anybody who posts here holds orchestral players in
contempt. I certainly don't. How would I have been able to spend the hours of
my life I've spent listening to orchestras playing music live and on records
without you? I even have a couple of close friends who are orchestral players,
and many years ago I was a bad amateur orchestral player myself.
-david gable
David7Gable
A favorite of Messiaen's and a champion of his music, Chung is very good in the
modern French repertory. (I'm less enthusiastic about his widely admired
Berlioz.)
I have a good live recording of Boulez's Notations 1-4 & 7 with Chung and the
Orchestre de Paris that includes the most sensational performance of Notation 7
I've heard: it's much more distinctively shaped than the virtuosically secure
performances with Barenboim and the CSO and David Robertson and Lyon forces
available in studio recordings. I wouldn't neccesarily have expected
sensational phrasing from Chung on the basis of some of the performances of
earlier music I've heard, but he certainly delivers here. Bravo to him and to
the Orchestre de Paris's principal trumpet, too.
-david gable, whose favorite Notation is 1 or 7
David7Gable
>performance of this wonderful work than MWC.
No one? His is the very best out of the (probably) more than a hundred
recordings of the Fantastique ever made? In any case, I wasn't wild about it.
-david gable
Allen
Sol L. Siegel wrote:
You beat me to it.
Allen
Jan Hoving
"David7Gable" <david...@aol.com> schreef in bericht
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> recordings of the Fantastique ever made? In any case, I wasn't wild about
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I still am David!
SALDAN27
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with Cecila Bartoli on a French song recital disc on London/Decca).
In terms of actual sound, that CD contains one of the most beautiful recordings
of a piano that I've ever heard. I wish all piano recordings sounded like
that. And his playing (like Bartoli's singing) is absolutely gorgeous.
Malcolm
Guus
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You're not.
JRsnfld
I think the problem crops up where professional musicians show disrespect for
audience opinions, or vice versa. That's certainly not the case with you.
As for your opinion of Mr. Chung, I am not surprised. How anyone can lead and
inspire colleagues as experienced as you is a mystery, actually. This is most
likely a rare experience.
How many of us reach the pinnacle of our professions and still think our bosses
are way cool? I've been lucky enough to work for inspiring, intelligent people;
but then, I haven't reached the pinnacle of my profession...
We orchestral musicians (I am not a professional) rarely agree on anything
except what a bad job the conductor is doing. Musicians are rightly appalled by
unclear beats, unsteady or unworkable tempi, idiotic rambling commentary during
rehearsal, stupid programming choices, over-rehearsing, under-rehearsing, etc.
etc. Goes with the territory. And when I actually am inspired I am often
disappointed to find out that others were not.
--Jeff
Jan Hoving
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What makes you say that? I don't understand.
Janneman
MELMOTH
<1102666794.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, les troubles
phonèmes suivants :
> Is Myung-Whun Chung a good conductor?
No.
Jan Hoving
Guus
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you who knows what the best recording is.
El Klauso
Sol L. Siegel
>I know of the contempt with which orchestral players are held by
>many in this group....
They are? By whom? Not me!
GMS
NOT written endlessly and tirelessly about "overpaid, overfed, lazy and
spoiled musicians" like Terry Ellsworth and a number of others here.
My apologies to all you of good will and understanding.
Gary Stucka
Spam Scone
Apology accepted. And I will seal the acceptance by listening to some
CSO CDs. Thanks to you and your fellow CSO members for bring so much
joy to my life through recordings.
Neil Brennen
Larry Rinkel
"Sol L. Siegel" <vod...@aol.comexitspam> wrote in message
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> I suppose it's up to me to mention his excellent Messiaen discs.
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I think he's got a real feel for Messiaen, and his live Turangalila at
Carnegie Hall last season was thrilling. Unfortunately, he prefaced it
before intermission (!) with a La Mer that was as plodding as could be, a
real sea of sludge.
Still, on the night before or after, he showed up in Weill Hall with a
violinst, cellist, and clarinettist to play an excellent Quatuor pour le fin
du temps. And talk about good, imaginative programming - the first half
consisted of the Debussy Clarinet Rhapsody, Violin Sonata, and Cello Sonata.
Nicolai P. Zwar
I wouldn't say "no one", as there are several outstanding performances
on record of this popular work, but Chung's account of the Fantastique
reigns among the finest in my book, too.
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Nicolai Zwar
http://www.nicolaizwar.com
"Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants,
cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." (Yahweh, apparently throwing one
of his tantrums.)
Nicolai P. Zwar
Yes.
Matthew B. Tepper
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> David7Gable wrote:
>>>No one has ever given a better
>>>performance of this wonderful work than MWC.
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>> No one? His is the very best out of the (probably) more than a hundred
>> recordings of the Fantastique ever made? In any case, I wasn't wild
>> about it.
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> I wouldn't say "no one", as there are several outstanding performances
> on record of this popular work, but Chung's account of the Fantastique
> reigns among the finest in my book, too.
I agree. I also enjoy his "Harold" and "Damnation." Incidentally, DGG at
first declined to carry his S.F. in the USA, and then when "Damnation" came
out the Universal release book gave the popularity of his S.F. as a selling
point for it....
Poor Chung. What a blighted career. First all of that BS in Paris, and
then more recently his label sullied his reputation by associating him with
Bo-Bo. (At least Zubie had the excuse of a huge legal settlement he had to
pay off.)
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Matthew B. Tepper: WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!
My personal home page -- http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/index.html
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To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
Take THAT, Daniel Lin, Mark Sadek, James Lin & Christopher Chung!
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> Is Myung-Whun Chung a good conductor?
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Lawrence Chalmers
Néstor Castiglione
Returning to the OP, Chung is OK, but not great. I have many of his recordings and have heard him live on several occasions. He has a Beethoven cycle from Tokyo that is solid. His later Seoul PO recordings made a minor stir about a decade ago, but I never could figure out why. They're proficient, but nothing memorable or revelatory. I suppose that sums up Chung's artistry on the podium.
Still, I'd rate him above nearly anybody helming any of the major American orchestras today.
Richard Kaplan
Herman
Néstor Castiglione
> Another factor may have been the current plethora of DSCH cycles. Who needs it?
Frank Berger
It seems to me his best recordings are some of those with the Bastille Opera Orchestra. His Berlioz and Dvorak are pretty good, IMO. Most of the rest is forgettable. In fact, I've forgotten it. I enjoyed his disc of Nielsen Sym 2 and the Aladdin Suite. That might have been a Dave's Fave recommendation.