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Haitink's new Mahler 3 w/ BRSO on BR Klassik
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Oscar
Jan 9, 2017, 4:52:21 AM1/9/17
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One of the BEST Mahler 3's I've ever heard. Just had a fitful bout with insomnia (coffee too late in the day) and decided to fire up AppleMusic to find some musical relief. I saw Haitink's new 2CD release on BR Klassik of what can be a long, occasionally plodding affair. Perfect, I thought. Haitink is never less than a competent conductor, and in Mahler usually much more accomplished than that. Well, bust my buttons, this was a riveting performance from first note till last. His sense of the architecture, the balances and tempi just so, an overarching vision that bound all the various components together. Just wonderful. Do check this out. Haitink is still with us. And glory be!
Gerard
Jan 9, 2017, 6:26:05 AM1/9/17
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Op maandag 9 januari 2017 10:52:21 UTC+1 schreef Oscar:
But ... I have already 4(!) recordings by Haitink of this symphony.
Did you hear his previous one, with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra?
> One of the BEST Mahler 3's I've ever heard. Just had a fitful bout with insomnia (coffee too late in the day) and decided to fire up AppleMusic to find some musical relief. I saw Haitink's new 2CD release on BR Klassik of what can be a long, occasionally plodding affair. Perfect, I thought. Haitink is never less than a competent conductor, and in Mahler usually much more accomplished than that. Well, bust my buttons, this was a riveting performance from first note till last. His sense of the architecture, the balances and tempi just so, an overarching vision that bound all the various components together. Just wonderful. Do check this out. Haitink is still with us. And glory be!
I heard snippets at some website. Sounds very good.
But ... I have already 4(!) recordings by Haitink of this symphony.
Did you hear his previous one, with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra?
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barr...@yahoo.com
Jan 9, 2017, 5:03:04 PM1/9/17
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On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:54:43 PM UTC-8, barr...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> A few things really bug me about the Chicago recording, the worst being that near the end of the coda to the first movement, some clarinetist blows so hard on his/her sustained high note, that the note goes flat in pitch. It really sticks out if you listen carefully. I also don't like the balances.
>
> Because Chicago's Orchestra Hall is wide and shallow, the trumpets sound as though they're sitting up front with the strings. I would like to hear someone try putting the horns across the back and placing the trumpets more to the side - splitting from the trumpets from the equally loud trombones. I'm also just not crazy about James Mallinson engineered recordings, for some reason.
>
> I think the best compromise with Haitink is the Amsterdam Kerstmatinee (Christmas Matinee) performance of Mahler 3 that's been issued on dvd. You can watch it on Youtube. But this Munich one is clearly the best sounding of the lot.
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> By the way, Haitink's recent Mahler 9 on the same label is now one of the best single disc versions out there.
>
> Barry Guerrero
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:52:21 AM UTC-8, Oscar wrote:
> > One of the BEST Mahler 3's I've ever heard. Just had a fitful bout with insomnia (coffee too late in the day) and decided to fire up AppleMusic to find some musical relief. I saw Haitink's new 2CD release on BR Klassik of what can be a long, occasionally plodding affair. Perfect, I thought. Haitink is never less than a competent conductor, and in Mahler usually much more accomplished than that. Well, bust my buttons, this was a riveting performance from first note till last. His sense of the architecture, the balances and tempi just so, an overarching vision that bound all the various components together. Just wonderful. Do check this out. Haitink is still with us. And glory be!
>
> I've been listening to this on Spotify, and I have a copy coming from England (where it costs half as much, for some reason). Even though Haitink is a bit under-tempo in spots (first movement goes past 35 minutes), I prefer this one to his previous Chicago one. For one thing, it's much better recorded. The offstage 'posthorn' solo (3rd movement) and the huge brass chorale towards the end of the finale sound absolutely gorgeous. And even though there's no denying that the brass section is quite powerful in Chicago, I think the strings, woodwinds and percussion are better here. The Munich brass players hold up their end of things too (that brass chorale!). If you need a louder trombone solo (first movement), then stick with Chicago. I prefer the almost 'funkier' sound of the Munich trombonist.
> > One of the BEST Mahler 3's I've ever heard. Just had a fitful bout with insomnia (coffee too late in the day) and decided to fire up AppleMusic to find some musical relief. I saw Haitink's new 2CD release on BR Klassik of what can be a long, occasionally plodding affair. Perfect, I thought. Haitink is never less than a competent conductor, and in Mahler usually much more accomplished than that. Well, bust my buttons, this was a riveting performance from first note till last. His sense of the architecture, the balances and tempi just so, an overarching vision that bound all the various components together. Just wonderful. Do check this out. Haitink is still with us. And glory be!
>
>
> A few things really bug me about the Chicago recording, the worst being that near the end of the coda to the first movement, some clarinetist blows so hard on his/her sustained high note, that the note goes flat in pitch. It really sticks out if you listen carefully. I also don't like the balances.
>
> Because Chicago's Orchestra Hall is wide and shallow, the trumpets sound as though they're sitting up front with the strings. I would like to hear someone try putting the horns across the back and placing the trumpets more to the side - splitting from the trumpets from the equally loud trombones. I'm also just not crazy about James Mallinson engineered recordings, for some reason.
>
> I think the best compromise with Haitink is the Amsterdam Kerstmatinee (Christmas Matinee) performance of Mahler 3 that's been issued on dvd. You can watch it on Youtube. But this Munich one is clearly the best sounding of the lot.
>
> By the way, Haitink's recent Mahler 9 on the same label is now one of the best single disc versions out there.
>
> Barry Guerrero
Oscar
Jan 9, 2017, 7:31:41 PM1/9/17
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On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 3:26:05 AM, Gerard wrote:
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> I heard snippets at some website. Sounds very good.
> But ... I have already 4(!) recordings by Haitink of this symphony.
> Did you hear his previous one, with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra?
Way better than the boring Chicago recording, and the BRSO sounds positively luxurious. Sell two of the others and buy this one. It's your patriotic duty!!
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> I heard snippets at some website. Sounds very good.
> But ... I have already 4(!) recordings by Haitink of this symphony.
> Did you hear his previous one, with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra?
Oscar
Apr 5, 2018, 6:36:15 PM4/5/18
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Just won BBC Music Magazibe’s Orchestral Recordibg of the Year 2017. TOLDJA!
Frank Berger
Apr 5, 2018, 6:50:55 PM4/5/18
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On 4/5/2018 6:36 PM, Oscar wrote:
> Just won BBC Music Magazibe’s Orchestral Recordibg of the Year 2017. TOLDJA!
>
It's in my MDT shopping cart.
> Just won BBC Music Magazibe’s Orchestral Recordibg of the Year 2017. TOLDJA!
>
Oscar
Apr 5, 2018, 7:50:43 PM4/5/18
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For how many months now?
Frank Berger
May 7, 2018, 10:58:33 AM5/7/18
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On 4/5/2018 7:50 PM, Oscar wrote:
> For how many months now?
>
I haven't received my copy yet (and who knows how long it will take me
> For how many months now?
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to listen to it), but I wonder how you would respond to several
reviewers who (while still admiring the performance) think it was a
little plodding and lacking in mysticism in places? A little to far
from "the edge" perhaps.
graham
May 7, 2018, 12:37:31 PM5/7/18
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Oscar
May 7, 2018, 2:03:27 PM5/7/18
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Clearly, Frankly, those reviewers are on the wrong side of history.
O
May 7, 2018, 2:14:34 PM5/7/18
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In article <pcpvc8$ors$2...@dont-email.me>, graham <g.st...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
Yes!! Several of them!
-Owen
wrote:
-Owen
gggg...@gmail.com
May 7, 2018, 3:56:30 PM5/7/18
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- Ruby’s début CD, Nocturnal Variations with Middleton showcases her affinity for Mahler’s writing and it has been met with universal acclaim.
http://leedslieder.org.uk/whats-on/mahler-song-series-i/
Frank Berger
May 7, 2018, 4:39:06 PM5/7/18
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On 5/7/2018 2:03 PM, Oscar wrote:
> Clearly, Frankly, those reviewers are on the wrong side of history.
>
Having been not such a good student and daydreaming much of the time,
> Clearly, Frankly, those reviewers are on the wrong side of history.
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whenever a teacher would say, "Frankly....." I would practically jump
out of my seat.
Frank Berger
May 7, 2018, 4:40:26 PM5/7/18
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comment on those criticisms?
graham
May 7, 2018, 5:08:39 PM5/7/18
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symphony in their minds and always find some part that isn't quite what
they envisioned.
Frank Berger
May 7, 2018, 7:21:09 PM5/7/18
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mswd...@gmail.com
May 8, 2018, 5:27:25 PM5/8/18
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On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:08:37 AM UTC-5, Haydn House CD wrote:
> The recent BRSO / Haitinlk is a wonderful performance and recording but the Czech Phil / Vaclav Neumann recording sitll reigns supreme here.
Supraphon, not Exton, I take it?
> The recent BRSO / Haitinlk is a wonderful performance and recording but the Czech Phil / Vaclav Neumann recording sitll reigns supreme here.
Supraphon, not Exton, I take it?
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