The Liszt Legacy on DG
td
A close look at the cover of this set reveals the names Benno
Moiseiwitsch, Egon Petri, and Raymond Lewenthal in addition to the
more logical Alicia de Larrocha and Claudio Arrau.
What this MAY mean is that someone at DG has discovered the three
Moiseiwitsch LPs I managed to have digitized a decade ago, as well as
the Petri and Lewenthal Westminster tapes.
Good news, actually.
TD
AG
see that they would consider trying to sell a product like that
without having to use/include Horowitz's name, for instance (not there
is anything wrong with VH's liszt, of course). Can you remember some
of the Moiseiwitsch items that you mention?
AG
td
> That sounds like a very interesting release and rather refreshing to
> see that they would consider trying to sell a product like that
> without having to use/include Horowitz's name, for instance (not there
> is anything wrong with VH's liszt, of course). Can you remember some
> of the Moiseiwitsch items that you mention?
There are THREE Moiseiwitsch LPs recorded in Stereo just before his
death for Israel Horowitz's American Decca label. Bryan Crimp has said
that they are the only recordings of BM to faithfully represent his
very special tone. Not sure about that, but they are good recordings
overall.
The repertoire is Schumann, Beethoven. I have the LPs and can look
them out for you, but they are mixed. I recall NO Liszt, actually.
What DG does own is Guiomar Novaes' single LP for Decca which includes
a fabulous Liszt HR No. 10. Perhaps that is also in this box.
TD
AG
presumably, those 5 pianists....how much liszt to ADL record? either
which way i look forward to seeing the contents as and when.
AG
td
> ....also i have just noticed that it says 10CD's....between,
> presumably, those 5 pianists....how much liszt to ADL record? either
> which way i look forward to seeing the contents as and when.
The point is that there is not enough to fill 10 CDs. There MUST be
more pianists involved.
TD
AG
the non-pianophiles out there...plus if you look at the image they
could have put more names on there....my gut feeling is that it will
be a 5CD collection of just those names.....either which way i look
forward to some Lewenthal material in my collection because currently
there is nothing! (i think).
AG
Oscar
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> A close look at the cover of this set reveals the names Benno
> Moiseiwitsch, Egon Petri, and Raymond Lewenthal in addition to the
> more logical Alicia de Larrocha and Claudio Arrau.
>
> What this MAY mean is that someone at DG has discovered the three
> Moiseiwitsch LPs I managed to have digitized a decade ago, as well as
> the Petri and Lewenthal Westminster tapes.
Some of the Petri has already been released on Wild and Crazy, which I
auditioned last week at a local store. http://tiny.cc/wgdu9
From Dominy Clements's Music Web International review:
There’s just time to mention some brand new recordings which you won’t
find anywhere else on CD: Jean-Rodolphe Kars’s 1968 Decca recordings
are a little lacking in gloss, but his Nuages gris and La lugubre
gondola No.1 are both moodily fascinating, and the Fantasy on Themes
from Mozart’s “Marriage of Figaro” is again rather dryly recorded but
well played by Egon Petri...
td
> On Jul 13, 4:12 am, td wrote:
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> > A close look at the cover of this set reveals the names Benno
> > Moiseiwitsch, Egon Petri, and Raymond Lewenthal in addition to the
> > more logical Alicia de Larrocha and Claudio Arrau.
>
> > What this MAY mean is that someone at DG has discovered the three
> > Moiseiwitsch LPs I managed to have digitized a decade ago, as well as
> > the Petri and Lewenthal Westminster tapes.
>
> Some of the Petri has already been released on Wild and Crazy, which I
>
> From Dominy Clements's Music Web International review:
>
> There’s just time to mention some brand new recordings which you won’t
> find anywhere else on CD: Jean-Rodolphe Kars’s 1968 Decca recordings
> are a little lacking in gloss, but his Nuages gris and La lugubre
> gondola No.1 are both moodily fascinating, and the Fantasy on Themes
> from Mozart’s “Marriage of Figaro” is again rather dryly recorded but
> well played by Egon Petri...
I do believe that it is a 10 CD set, George. Furthermore, I think that
other pianists will be involved. Good that they have found the Kars.
He beame a monk and runs a piano festival in the west of France. Was a
fine pianist. Petri made quite a few Liszt recordings for Westminster.
The end of his life, so not as good as the EMI recordings, but
sturdily good.
TD
makropulos
Yes - Good to see the Kars recording making a reappearance as well as
the other rarer things in here. I've met Kars a few times in the last
ten years or so, and he's clearly someone who is deeply happy with the
decision he made to become a priest (much to Messiaen's delight too).
He lives in a community at Paray-le-Monial in Burgundy. An interesting
and thoughtful man who also kept in very close contact with Yvonne
Loriod during her declining years.
AG
this set looks awesome.....
THE LISZT LEGACY
Claudio Arrau – First release
CD 1 Beethoven: Piano Sonatas op. 106 “Hammerklavier” | op.
13 “Pathétique”
CD 2 Beethoven: Piano Sonatas op. 27 no. 2 “Moonlight” | op.
57 “Appassionata” | op. 81a “Les Adieux”
Chopin: Fantaisie op. 49
Alicia de Larrocha – First release on CD
CD 3 Turina: Danzas fantásticas | Preludios op. 80 |
Recuerdos de la antigua España | Partita op. 57
Granados: Escenas románticas
CD 4 Granados: Goyescas | El pelele Mompou: Impresiones
íntimas
Raymond Lewenthal – First release on CD
CD 5 Scriabin: 24 Préludes op. 11 | 5 Préludes op. 74 |
Fantasia op. 28 | Vers la flamme
Encores by Saint-Saëns/Godowsky | Mendelssohn/Liszt | Rachmaninov/
Lewenthal
CD 6 Toccatas by Schumann | Alkan | Czerny | Della Ciaia | J.
S. Bach | Prokofiev | Debussy | Ravel
Zhelobinsky | Lewenthal | Menotti Encores by Rubinstein | Massenet
| Schubert/Liszt | Debussy | Liszt
Benno Moiseiwitsch – First release on CD
CD 7 Schumann: Carnaval | Kreisleriana | Kinderszenen |
Arabeske
CD 8 Mussorgsky/Moiseiwitsch: Pictures at an Exhibition
Beethoven: Piano Sonatas op. 27 no. 2 “Moonlight” | op. 81a “Les
Adieux” | Andante favori
Schumann: Vogel als Prophet | Romance op. 28 no. 2
Egon Petri – First release on CD
CD 9 Liszt: Paraphrases and Transcriptions from Mendelssohn |
Gounod | Beethoven
Liszt/Busoni: Mephisto Waltz no. 1 | “Figaro” Fantasy Busoni:
Fantasia contrappuntistica
CD 10 Busoni | Petri: Transcriptions from Bach & Buxtehude
The pièce de résistance of Deutsche Grammophon’s Liszt 200th
anniversary celebration is a 10-CD box that brings together five great
piano virtuosos of the past in a staggeringly display of virtuosity
and “old-style” pianism – quite unlike anything else on offer in Liszt
Year.
The artists – Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Raymond Lewenthal,
Benno Moiseiwitch and Egon Petri - can be regarded as Liszt’s heirs
for their astounding virtuosic command, for having created a
repertoire of their own, or for having studied with Liszt’s own pupils
or grand-pupils. The excellent booklet essay by Jed Distler sets out
the very convincing rationale behind the choices.
The box draws exclusively on recordings from the American Decca and
Westminster labels, most of which have never been released on CD, and,
in the case of Claudio Arrau, are now being released for the very
first time.
Painstakingly restored, the recordings, from the 1950s and early
1960s, both mono and stereo, have come up wonderfully well. Arrau
plays previously unreleased Beethoven (five favourite sonatas) and
Chopin; De Larrocha offers pristine accounts of her core repertoire of
Granados, Turina and Mompou; Lewenthal has scintillating Scriabin, an
incandescent programme of Toccatas and Encores; Moiseiwitch, in his
last recorded sessions (New York, 1961), ranges from Beethoven and
Schumann to Mussorgsky; and Petri unfolds an unforgettable programme
of Liszt and Busoni. Each artist has two CDs to display his or her
powers. A summary of content is below.
PACKAGING
The capbox cover is based on one of the original Westminster LP
covers, and the 32-page colour booklet replicates several of the
original LP covers
Deutsche Grammophon 10cds 4779527
On Jul 13, 12:12 pm, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
pianomaven
I have to wonder where the Arrau material comes from. I researched
Arrau recordings on Philips. There were NO unreleased recordings
sitting on the shelves in Baarn. I think these are simply a selection
of the normal Philips recordings. Analogue or digital? Well, the
Hammerklavier will be analogue, of course. The rest? TBA.
Finally, the Moiseiwitsch tapes I prepared have been issued. Bryan
Crimp claims they are the only recordings to represent BM's real tone.
Nice to have the Lewenthal and Petri, too. If the AdL recordings are
the American Decca recordings, those too will be welcome and indeed
first releases on CD. (Except the Goyescas, part of which Martin
Fleischmann released when he was still working for Universal in LA.
Yes, the son of Ernest. Let's hope DG found the entire Goyescas, as
Martin only found part of it.)
TD
AG
hammerklavier.....and i dont think they could/would seriously say the
following if it were not vaguely true:
"most of which have never been released on CD, and, in the case of
Claudio Arrau, are now being released for the very first time."
It also says Jed Distler wrote the notes so i guess he would have a
good idea if you could contact him (?).
All of that withstanding, it looks a great set.
AG
> I have to wonder where the Arrau material comes from. I researched
> Arrau recordings on Philips. There were NO unreleased recordings
> sitting on the shelves in Baarn. I think these are simply a selection
> of the normal Philips recordings. Analogue or digital? Well, the
> Hammerklavier will be analogue, of course. The rest? TBA.
>
> Finally, the Moiseiwitsch tapes I prepared have been issued. Bryan
> Crimp claims they are the only recordings to represent BM's real tone.
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> Nice to have the Lewenthal and Petri, too. If the AdL recordings are
> the American Decca recordings, those too will be welcome and indeed
> first releases on CD. (Except the Goyescas, part of which Martin
> Fleischmann released when he was still working for Universal in LA.
> Yes, the son of Ernest. Let's hope DG found the entire Goyescas, as
> Martin only found part of it.)
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George
GREAT news! Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to this release.
George
jagareco
tubeuf in the appassionata book, so its different respect philips
recording, and is the "second" performance that we know arrau made at
any time for that sonata
J
Matthew B. Tepper
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> 5 previously unreleased Arrau beethoven sonatas? why, yes please! :o)
> this set looks awesome.....
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> THE LISZT LEGACY
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Thanks for finding and posting this! I don't really see why this set has
been named after Liszt, apart from the fact that it contains some of his
works and arrangements. I suppose the Mousse-haired Marketing Morons at
the yellow label demanded a title that tied in with the anniversary, and
"First CD releases of interesting recordings by top-notch pianists" just
didn't cut it.
I will certainly buy it, not least for the Petri items, but I must admit
that if these had been issued as five 2-CD sets, my priorities would be
that one, Moiseiwitsch, and possibly Lewenthal. I certainly won't mind
having de Larrocha, and perhaps the Arrau performances included here will
win me over. (I really ought to get his Verdi-Liszt transcriptions....)
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> AG<andrewg...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following letters
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> news:50dfde9a-9b69-4cb9...@q1g2000vbj.googlegroups.com:
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>> 5 previously unreleased Arrau beethoven sonatas? why, yes please! :o)
>> this set looks awesome.....
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>> THE LISZT LEGACY
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> Thanks for finding and posting this! I don't really see why this set has
> been named after Liszt, apart from the fact that it contains some of his
> works and arrangements. I suppose the Mousse-haired Marketing Morons at
> the yellow label demanded a title that tied in with the anniversary, and
> "First CD releases of interesting recordings by top-notch pianists" just
> didn't cut it.
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> I will certainly buy it, not least for the Petri items, but I must admit
> that if these had been issued as five 2-CD sets, my priorities would be
> that one, Moiseiwitsch, and possibly Lewenthal. I certainly won't mind
> having de Larrocha, and perhaps the Arrau performances included here will
> win me over. (I really ought to get his Verdi-Liszt transcriptions....)
They can't win with you. Either you complain that they release the
same things over and over again, or in this case, 10 CDs of material
mostly on CD for the FIRST time (some for the first time anywhere) and
you complain about the title (????) and that only a few CDs are of
interest to you.
Much as you have tried, "Mousse-haired Marketing Morons" never caught
on and no one finds it funny.
Steve
pianomaven
> On 8/11/11 1:05 PM, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
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Ho hum.
It has always been thus, Steve. You have the patience of Job with this
dude. Most just ignore his little rants against the people who would
never give him the time of day let alone a job. And can you blame
them? Really?
The ONLY part of this set which has been issued before are the parts
of Goyescas which Martin Fleischmann issued back in the late 1980s
before he was fired from Universal Music. We can hope that this time
the set is complete as it was recorded on American Decca and not
truncated (MF said he couldn't find the remaining master tape. LOL.
Maybe he had to look harder?)
The Liszt Legacy title is a trifle specious, I must say. I brought it
up with Distler, who has written the notes for this album, and he
agreed. That said, Arrau did study with a Liszt pupil, Martin Krause.
Petri studied with Busoni. AdL with Frank Marshall. Moiseiwitsch with
Leschetitzky, who was a Rubinstein pupil. Lewenthal studied with
Cherkassky's mother, Olga Samaroff(nee Hickenlooper) and Cortot. No
Liszt connection there either.
The important thing here is the issue of these valuable documents, not
the title given to the album. Tepper knows that. He just conceals that
knowledge behind his petty resentment against an industry which didn't
give him the smell of an oil-rag.
TD
Matthew B. Tepper
letters to be typed in news:nL6dnR18Z5LuSdnT...@giganews.com:
Hey, since I'm planning to buy the thing, that's a "win" for them all
right. If it were just another re-re-re-re-re-reissue, I wouldn't bother.
> Much as you have tried, "Mousse-haired Marketing Morons" never caught
> on and no one finds it funny.
>
> Steve
Give it time, son, give it time. It doesn't have to be confined to the
music biz.
patterbear
The 5 Beethoven sonatas being released for the first time were
recorded by American Decca circa 1954, around the same time as his
mono Diabelli Vars. and the started but abandoned Chopin cycle. This
will be only the second "Hammerklavier" by Arrau I've come across-the
other being the 60's Philips recording from the complete cycle.
Treasure for Arrau fans! Todd