Pronounciation of Ricci
Carra
is it like Ricky? or Richie?
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Matthew B. Tepper
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> How does one pronouce the last name of the famous violinist.... Ricci...
>
> is it like Ricky? or Richie?
ree'-chee
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HankM219
>>
>> is it like Ricky? or Richie?
>
>ree'-chee
>
I agree; that's how I've always heard his name pronounced.
On the other hand, I met someone a couple years ago with the last name of
Ricci, who corrected me when I pronounced his name and insisted that it be
pronounced like Ricky. What was I to say? You don't know how to pronounce
your own name?
Henry Maurer, Cherry Hill, NJ, USA
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Eddie Oliver
>
> On the other hand, I met someone a couple years ago with the last name of
> Ricci, who corrected me when I pronounced his name and insisted that it be
> pronounced like Ricky. What was I to say? You don't know how to pronounce
> your own name?
Ricci was Italian (I believe) and was scarcely likely to want a
non-Italian pronunication of his name?
However there are some artists and composers who seem to make such a
change - perhaps the collective wisdom of this newsgroup could enumerate
them? In particular, there are people who have come to live in a
particular society and want to associate with it rather than preserve
some ancestral link.
I'd suggest Jorge Bolet and Norman Dello Joio as two possible examples
to start the list. George Solti is an interesting case in that he wanted
the anglicised "George" but the Hungarian "sholtee" ?????
Stephen McElroy
<eol...@efs.mq.edu.au> wrote:
> I'd suggest Jorge Bolet and Norman Dello Joio as two possible examples
> to start the list. George Solti is an interesting case in that he wanted
> the anglicised "George" but the Hungarian "sholtee" ?????
Kurt Weill and Alberto Ginastera come to mind.
I thought "Gyorgy" *is* pronounced the same as the anglicised "George".
Stephen
Bob Lombard
Stephen McElroy <smc...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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I guessed that he anglicized the spelling to cut down on the 'Georgie'
greetings.
bl
Eddie Oliver
>
> I thought "Gyorgy" *is* pronounced the same as the anglicised "George".
Isn't the vowel quite substantially different? I realise there's always
a lot of difficulty in comparing vowels across languages - some people
argue that they're almost never the same in two different languages,
whereas others can't tell the differences. I suppose often it's a case
of getting the nearest approximation?
John Harkness
American actress Christina and Canadian novelist Nino both use
ree'-chee.
John Harkness
Stephen McElroy
<eol...@efs.mq.edu.au> wrote:
Could be. I was thinking of soft vs hard 'g's (and the silent 'y' to which
Bob Lombard refers). The same for Ginastera: he preferred the Italianate
soft 'g' over the back 'g' reportedly more common in Argentina.
Stephen
Tony Movshon
They aren't quite the same, but I think the reason Solti anglicised it is
that the English more closely approach the Hungarian "Gyorgy" when they
say "George" than when they say "Gyorgy". The Hungarian pronunciation is
closer to the Russian version, "Yuri".
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il professore
> Ricci, who corrected me when I pronounced his name and insisted that it be
> pronounced like Ricky. What was I to say? You don't know how to
pronounce
> your own name?
>
> Henry Maurer, Cherry Hill, NJ, USA
Italian-Americans often Americanize the pronunciation of their names to make
it easier for Americans to say them. But Ricci is Reeee-chi as in "reach" +
"e" as in "eat."
>Il Professore <
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David7Gable
REE chee
-dg
Jeffrey Smith
Which brings us right back to Charmondeley-Featherstonehaw, doesn't
it?
Jeffrey Smith.
Matthew B. Tepper
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> Could be. I was thinking of soft vs hard 'g's (and the silent 'y' to
> which Bob Lombard refers). The same for Ginastera: he preferred the
> Italianate soft 'g' over the back 'g' reportedly more common in
> Argentina.
I can confirm that, having heard him in person saying that he used that
pronunciation.
Phil Wood
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Cholmondley-Featherstonehaugh surely?
Phil
Joseph Henry
>>is it like Ricky? or Richie?
>
>REE chee
Maybe you can answer another one (which I've forgotten):
FerneyWHO? FerneyHOW? FerneyHUFF? FerneyHEWWWW...?
Joseph Henry
Margaret Mikulska
Eddie Oliver wrote:
> George Solti is an interesting case in that he wanted
> the anglicised "George" but the Hungarian "sholtee" ?????
Well, what's so interesting about it? I want my last name pronounced
more or less correctly, but I anglicized my first name - it's easier for
everybody. The few English speakers who try to pronounce my first name
in its original form make such a bloody mess out of it that I can't
stand it.
-Margaret
Margaret Mikulska
Stephen McElroy wrote:
[...]
> I thought "Gyorgy" *is* pronounced the same as the anglicised "George".
No, it's not. And there is a sort of umlaut on 'o' in Gyorgy.
-Margaret
Margaret Mikulska
Tony Movshon wrote:
> They aren't quite the same, but I think the reason Solti anglicised it is
> that the English more closely approach the Hungarian "Gyorgy" when they
> say "George" than when they say "Gyorgy". The Hungarian pronunciation is
> closer to the Russian version, "Yuri".
Either you don't know how to pronounce Hungarian or you don't know how
to pronounce Russian. Or both.
-Margaret
Margaret Mikulska
Joseph Henry wrote:
> Maybe you can answer another one (which I've forgotten):
>
> FerneyWHO? FerneyHOW? FerneyHUFF? FerneyHEWWWW...?
Ferneyoo. That's what he told us in Darmstadt when we asked him, or at
least this is my recollection of those old times. I don't know what
happened to the "h".
-Margaret
Tony Movshon
Perhaps, perhaps not. I'll only concede that my Polish is dreadful.
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Tony Movshon
Perhaps we could trade hints on Hungarian for hints on English?
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Charles Chaplin
Da Ricci he does a rhyma widda screechi.
OK, too many Sopranos on a da tv.
Giuseppi da Tutta
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HankM219
>OK, too many Sopranos on a da tv.
>
>Giuseppi da Tutta
>
Bravo!
Henry Maurer, Cherry Hill, NJ, USA
Stephen McElroy
<miku...@silvertone.princeton.edu> wrote:
I had Hungarian acquaintances pronounce musical and historical names for
me, but I forgot to ask about this one! I'm happy to learn.
Back to Ricci: don't forget the double 'c'. Reec-chee.
Stephen
Maurizio Frigeni
> How does one pronouce the last name of the famous violinist.... Ricci...
REACH-chee
Doubling the "c" is fundamental for a good Italian pronounciation.
M.
Gyorgy Sajo
Exactly. It is quite difficult to explain the pronounciation of my
first name to an English speaker, anyway I'll try it:
'Gy' is a double consonant, and it is pronounced approximately as
English 'dy'(where 'y' is consonant like in 'yes'), or like the soft
'd' in 'during'. 'O' with the umlaut ('ö', if you can see it) is
pronounced like the same in German ('Schönberg'), or like 'u' in
English 'burn'. 'R' is rolled with the tongue like in Scottish.
Regards,
Gyorgy Sajo
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Matthew B. Tepper
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One of my college classmates (whose last name was Giovanetti) said that
there should be enough pause between the double letters for one to twiddle
four fingers.
Stephen McElroy
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> Maurizio...@dont.emailme.please (Maurizio Frigeni) wrote in
> news:20010613152434117208@[151.100.55.25]:
> > Doubling the "c" is fundamental for a good Italian pronounciation.
> One of my college classmates (whose last name was Giovanetti) said that
> there should be enough pause between the double letters for one to twiddle
> four fingers.
I met an elderly Italian gentleman who insisted on a clear distinction
between 'mato' and his nickname, 'Matto'. (Forgive me if I've reversed
these!)
Opera singers ignore double consonants at their own peril...
Stephen
Jeffrey Smith
You're right. I tried to avoid having to look it up, and got it wrong.
Jeffrey Smith.
David7Gable
Ferneyhough pronounces the last syllable of his name with nothing but a long
"o": Ferney-HOE
-dg
Larry Rinkel
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Raymond Hall
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> I'd be content if someone spelled "pronunciation" correctly.
Agreed. And all through this thread I thought posters were just making
strange pronouncements about Signor REE - CHEE <g>
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