Moiseiwitsch - Naxos Historical releases

[George]

A few questions:

1. Anyone know if there will be any more CD releases in this wonderful
series?

2. To date, how many have been released? By my count, there are 13,
with the most recent one coming in 2010 of late recordings of Chopin.

3. Was there a volume 8? I can't seem to find one, yet there appears
to be two labeled volume 6; the one with Beethoven PC 3 and 5; and the
one with the Delius PC and various short solo works by Debussy, Ravel,
etc.

Thanks!

George

[Oscar]

On Feb 13, 8:08 pm, George wrote:
>
> 3. Was there a volume 8? I can't seem to find one, yet there appears
> to be two labeled volume 6; the one with Beethoven PC 3 and 5; and the
> one with the Delius PC and various short solo works by Debussy, Ravel,
> etc.

Yes, Volume 8 is Naxos 8.110776, issued October 2004. Audio
restoration producer: Ward Marston. Special thanks to Donald Manildi.
Discographic information from Benno Moiseiwitsch: An HMV Discography,
by Bryan Crimp [Appian Publications & Recordings, 1990, Hexham,
Northumberland, UK].

— Beethoven PC 3 with Philharmonia Orchestra / Malcolm Sargent,
recorded on tape by HMV on December 20, 1950.

— Beethoven PC 5 with London Philharmonic Orchestra / George Szell,
recorded by HMV October 21, 1938.

[George]

Ah, OK, I see it now. Thanks!

George

[Oscar]

On Feb 13, 8:41 pm, George wrote:
>
> Ah, OK, I see it now. Thanks!

You are welcome! What do you like about Moiseiwitsch? Or more
accurately, what recordings, CD's, performances? Can't say I'm very
familiar with this pianist.

[George]

I love his Chopin (all three Naxos CDs) and his Schumann. The second
volume of the Naxos series with Weber-Tausig is also wonderful.

What I like about him is his style. He plays in the old manner (what
he refers to as The Grand Style), lots of rubato, great tone and an
overall beautiful way with almost everything he played. This approach
didn't always work (I recall his Beethoven and his Tchaikovsky not
being so succesful), but when it did work, it was special.

You may wish to read something he wrote about Playing in The Grand
Style:
http://www.arbiterrecords.com/musicresourcecenter/moiseiwitsch.html

George

[Frank Berger]

For the record, I think they are up to 11 volumes. See MDT.

[George]

This one is labeled volume 13:
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2010/Oct10/chopin_8110770.htm

George

[SPAM- @xs4all.nl HvT]

Indeed. I've 13 volumes and have since then be on the lookout for #14 ...

Henk

[George]

On Feb 14, 5:47 am, "HvT" <hvtuijl- SPAM- @xs4all.nl> wrote:
> George wrote:
> > On Feb 14, 12:14 am, "Frank Berger" <frankdber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> George wrote:
> >>> On Feb 13, 11:29 pm, Oscar <oscaredwardwilliam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Feb 13, 8:08 pm, George wrote:
>
> >>>>> 3. Was there a volume 8? I can't seem to find one, yet there
> >>>>> appears to be two labeled volume 6; the one with Beethoven PC 3
> >>>>> and 5; and the one with the Delius PC and various short solo
> >>>>> works by Debussy, Ravel, etc.
>
> >>>> Yes, Volume 8 is Naxos 8.110776, issued October 2004. Audio
> >>>> restoration producer: Ward Marston. Special thanks to Donald
> >>>> Manildi. Discographic information from Benno Moiseiwitsch: An HMV
> >>>> Discography, by Bryan Crimp [Appian Publications & Recordings,
> >>>> 1990, Hexham, Northumberland, UK].
>
> >>>> Beethoven PC 3 with Philharmonia Orchestra / Malcolm Sargent,
> >>>> recorded on tape by HMV on December 20, 1950.
>
> >>>> Beethoven PC 5 with London Philharmonic Orchestra / George Szell,
> >>>> recorded by HMV October 21, 1938.
>
> >>> Ah, OK, I see it now. Thanks!
>
> >>> George
>
> >> For the record, I think they are up to 11 volumes. See MDT.
>
> > This one is labeled volume  13:

> >http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2010/Oct10/chopin_8110...

>
> Indeed. I've 13 volumes and have since then be on the lookout for #14 ...
>
> Henk

Since Ward did the mastering on these CDs, I called Marston Records to
ask about the possibility of future Moiseiwitsch CDs. I was told that
they are finished with his recordings and thus, they don't expect
there to be any more in this series.

George

[SPAM- @xs4all.nl HvT]

Many thanks for the information! But what a pity - I cannot get enough of
Moiseiwitsch.

Henk

[Dufus]

>On Feb 13, 10:48 pm, Oscar <oscaredwardwilliam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> what recordings, CD's, performances? Can't say I'm very
> familiar with this pianist.

He sounds differently live than in many of his recordings , I think ,
here all live on Arbiter cd :

Arbiter 120: Moiseiwitsch in recital
Benno Moiseiwitsch, piano.

Chopin: Ballade in F, Nocturne in G, Scherzo in B-flat minor, Preludes
in F & B-flat minor
Bach-Liszt: Fantasie & Fugue in G minor; Schubert-Liszt: Hark Hark,
the Lark!
Chopin-Liszt: My Joys
Wagner-Liszt: Tannhauser Overture
Stravinsky: Etude op.7, no.4.
Interview with Abram Chasins

Recorded 1954-1960: first publication.

[George]

You're welcome, Henk! And I totally agree.

George

[nach...@earthlink.net]

I think his Pictures at an Exhibition on Naxos (He recorded it again years later for American Decca) is one of the great performances. It's the most musical "Pictures" I know as you constantly notice what great music it is rather than admiring the pianist's chops.

I also like almost everything he recorded. He always plays beautifully, with great finish and great insight into the music. He had a fabulous tone.

I heard him do Beethoven's Emperor concerto live on his last concert tour of the US -- I think it was 1960 or 61 and even in the acoustical nightmare of Lewinsohn Stadium you could hear how exceptional he was.

Martin Cohn

[SPAM- @xs4all.nl HvT]

Do his recordings justice to the way he sounded in 1960/61 - to his tone?

Henk

[MELMOTH]

Ce cher mammifère du nom de George nous susurrait, le jeudi 14/02/2013,
dans nos oreilles grandes ouvertes mais un peu sales tout de même, et
dans le message
<a1b68cfc-3d46-408a...@z4g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>, les
doux mélismes suivants :

> 2. To date, how many have been released? By my count, there are 13,
> with the most recent one coming in 2010 of late recordings of Chopin.

1 - Schumann/Brahms/Moussorgsky
2 - Weber/Mendelssohn/Liszt
3 - Tchaikovsky (concertos piano 1/2)
4 - Rachamaninov
5 - Grieg/Saint-Saens/Liszt
6 - Delius/Ravel/Debussy
7 - Rachmaninov/Medtner/Kabalevsky/Khatchaturian
8 - Beethoven
9 - not in My Collection...
10 - Acoustic Recordings (1916-1925)
11 - Chopin Recordings (1916-1927)
12 - Chopin Recordings (1938-1952)

--
Car avec beaucoup de science, il y a beaucoup de chagrin ; et celui qui
accroît sa science accroît sa douleur.
[Ecclésiaste, 1-18]
MELMOTH - souffrant

[George]

On Feb 15, 5:34 am, MELMOTH <t...@free.fr> wrote:
> Ce cher mammifère du nom de George nous susurrait, le jeudi 14/02/2013,
> dans nos oreilles grandes ouvertes mais un peu sales tout de même, et
> dans le message

> <a1b68cfc-3d46-408a-af47-e04b00376...@z4g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>, les

> doux mélismes suivants :
>
> > 2. To date, how many have been released? By my count, there are 13,
> > with the most recent one coming in 2010 of late recordings of Chopin.
>
> 1 - Schumann/Brahms/Moussorgsky
> 2 - Weber/Mendelssohn/Liszt
> 3 - Tchaikovsky (concertos piano 1/2)
> 4 - Rachamaninov
> 5 - Grieg/Saint-Saens/Liszt
> 6 - Delius/Ravel/Debussy
> 7 - Rachmaninov/Medtner/Kabalevsky/Khatchaturian
> 8 - Beethoven
> 9 - not in My Collection...
> 10 - Acoustic Recordings (1916-1925)
> 11 - Chopin Recordings (1916-1927)
> 12 - Chopin Recordings (1938-1952)
>

and

13 - Chopin Recordings (1939-1952) released in 2010:

http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2010/Oct10/chopin_8110770.htm

George

[Mark Obert-Thorn]

On Feb 15, 7:47 am, George <gperkins...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> and
>
> 13 - Chopin Recordings (1939-1952) released in 2010:

There is also his 1951 Kreutzer with Heifetz, which I transferred for
Naxos Historical 8.110990 as part of a Heifetz series, coupled with
the Franck Sonata with Rubinstein and the Brahms D minor with Kapell.

Mark Obert-Thorn

[howie...@btinternet.com]

How many times did he record the Kreutzer?

The live Chopin Nocturne op 37/ 2 , on Arbiter, is very fine I think.

[Mark Obert-Thorn]

On Feb 15, 11:34 am, howie.st...@btinternet.com wrote:
> How many times did he record the Kreutzer?

Twice. There's a previously-unpublished 1949 version, also with
Heifetz, on APR 5610, transferred from HMV shellac tests from
Moiseiwitsch's collection. It is said to have been rejected by
Heifetz because the recording balance didn't favor the violin
sufficiently to his taste.

Mark O-T

[George]

Yes, I have ordered that one.

George

[George]

On Feb 15, 9:44 am, themusicparlour <tin...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Might as well mention that the 6 March 1963 RFH (BBC/Sargent) 'Emperor' performance (2001: via BBC Radio 3) has been available here for a few years:http://themusicparlour.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/benno-moiseiwitsch-some...
> New digital transfer just made: previously was very slightly overloaded.
>
> Sonically a very fine representation of Moiseiwitsch's playing: and nothing 'near-death/geriatric' about this performance...

Many thanks for that!

George

[Al Eisner]

I've often wondered something about that recording. The notes state
that there had been an earlier recording, which Heifetz rejected because
the violin wasn't dominant enough. The result seems to push
Moiseiwitsch way into the background, hardly, I think what Beethoven
had in mind. What I've wondered is why that earlier version wasn't
the one included, if it still existis, that is. Neither of the
other two works included have that sort of balance problem -- in fact,
that Franck is really terrific, probably my favorite performance of
the work. [When I refer to a "problem", I want to be clear I'm only
commenting on the performance, not at all on the excellent-sounding
Naxos release.]
--

Al Eisner

[Al Eisner]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013, Mark Obert-Thorn wrote:

Ah, I hadn't read this when I asked about these performances in my
earlier reply. Sorry about that.
--

Al Eisner

[nach...@earthlink.net]

Sorry, Henk. I couldn't really tell you. Lewisohn Stadium seated thousands of people and had a terrible amplification system. In the cheap seats, where I sat you would hear everything twice because of a pronounced echo. In spite of all this, his tone seemed exceptionally warm and clear. The recordings of him that I have -- mostly transfers from the 78 era -- do sound like him. I can't claim, however, to have an exceptional memory of someone I heard 50 years ago. All I know is that he made an exceptional impression on me and even today he is one of my favorite pianists.

Martin

[howie...@btinternet.com]

Could someone upload the first Kreutzer? i've ver heard it.

[SPAM- @xs4all.nl HvT]

Dear Martin, many thanks for your reply. Good to hear that the 78 transfers
do remind you of his live performance. On these transfers he also sounds
exceptionally warm and clear, IMO.

Henk

[td]

On Feb 17, 3:39 am, "HvT" <hvtuijl- SPAM- @xs4all.nl> wrote:

> nacha...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > On Friday, February 15, 2013 2:19:41 AM UTC-8, HvT wrote:

Bryan Crimp - who probably knows more about BM than anyone - told me
once that the three Decca LPs represented BM's tone better than ANY of
his prior recordings.

These are included complete in The Liszt Legacy box from DG. The tape
to disc transfers were, I think, the ones I had made in Hannover at
the same time as the GPE was being worked on, covering the costs in
that project. If you don't have that box, don't hesitate, as the BM
recordings are unlikely to et another outing on CD.

TD

[arri bachrach]

On Feb 17, 2:31 am, "nacha...@earthlink.net" <nacha...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> On Friday, February 15, 2013 2:19:41 AM UTC-8, HvT wrote:

I heard BM in 1955 in NYC while serving in the Army......... at that
point I had heard Solomon, Rubenstein,Bolet, Kappel,Francois and a few
other concert pianists. I dont remember be especially struck by his
tone or the playing in general..........I had known his playing from
recordings and i remember being somewhat disappointed by the recital.
It is quite possible (probable) that the 'house piano' was not a
particularly good instrument nor are the acoustics in the high school
auditorium favorable.

AB

[arri bachrach]

On Feb 17, 2:31 am, "nacha...@earthlink.net" <nacha...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> On Friday, February 15, 2013 2:19:41 AM UTC-8, HvT wrote:

remember the place very well........ heard many concerts there
including Heifetz in the Tchaikovsky. Parking was a serious problem!

AB

[SPAM- @xs4all.nl HvT]

It's a great box. I didn't hesitate a moment when it was released. BM's tone
slightly disappointed me. It lacked the warmth of his other recordings -
even his BBC recordings.

Henk

[gggg gggg]

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 8:08:37 PM UTC-8, George wrote:
> A few questions:
>
> 1. Anyone know if there will be any more CD releases in this wonderful
> series?

>
> 2. To date, how many have been released? By my count, there are 13,
> with the most recent one coming in 2010 of late recordings of Chopin.
>

> 3. Was there a volume 8? I can't seem to find one, yet there appears
> to be two labeled volume 6; the one with Beethoven PC 3 and 5; and the
> one with the Delius PC and various short solo works by Debussy, Ravel,
> etc.
>

> Thanks!
>
> George

(Recent Y. upload):

Benno Moiseiwitsch (1890-1963): Beethoven: Piano Concerto no.5 (London 21-10-1938)

[gggg gggg]

On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 10:22:54 PM UTC-7, rote:

(2023 Y. upload):

"Benno Moiseiwitsch (piano) - Passepied ('Le Roi s'Amuse' - Delibes) (1922)"