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wade
Jul 27, 2012, 1:01:16 PM7/27/12
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Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
Randy Lane
Jul 27, 2012, 1:23:27 PM7/27/12
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On Jul 27, 10:01 am, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
There's the subway/train noises in many Kingsway Hall recordings too.
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
t.j.l...@googlemail.com
Jul 27, 2012, 2:04:17 PM7/27/12
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In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I think you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
There's also a Ma Vlast from 1969 in New England I think where there's an almighty thunder storm in the middle
There's also a Ma Vlast from 1969 in New England I think where there's an almighty thunder storm in the middle
Gerard
Jul 27, 2012, 2:20:59 PM7/27/12
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> In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I
> think you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
Bombs on Berlin, Furtw�ngler (IIRC Beethoven 9th).
> think you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
Edward Cowan
Jul 27, 2012, 4:10:28 PM7/27/12
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In at least one of Landowska's recordings of Scarlatti sonatas, made in
Paris in the spring of 1940, one can hear the unmistakable sound of
anti-aircraft fire... --E.A.C.
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Paris in the spring of 1940, one can hear the unmistakable sound of
anti-aircraft fire... --E.A.C.
hrabanus
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> In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I think
> you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
Gieseking/Rother Beethoven "Emperor," I believe.
I was also going to mention the Landowska Scarlatti recordings, but Prof.
Cowan has beat me to the punch!
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> In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I think
> you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
I was also going to mention the Landowska Scarlatti recordings, but Prof.
Cowan has beat me to the punch!
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Kip Williams
Jul 27, 2012, 5:00:20 PM7/27/12
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Wasn't there a barking dog in someone's "Scheherazade"?
Kip W
Wasn't there a barking dog in someone's "Scheherazade"?
Kip W
graham
Jul 27, 2012, 5:23:39 PM7/27/12
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> In at least one of Landowska's recordings of Scarlatti sonatas, made in
> Paris in the spring of 1940, one can hear the unmistakable sound of
> anti-aircraft fire... --E.A.C.
>
When I first played those recordings some 45 years ago, I kept going outside
> Paris in the spring of 1940, one can hear the unmistakable sound of
> anti-aircraft fire... --E.A.C.
>
to see what was happening. I then read the sleeve{:-) The Germans were
marching towards Paris and that was the source of the shelling IIRC.
largo_57
Jul 27, 2012, 6:27:16 PM7/27/12
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On Jul 27, 12:01 pm, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
The infamous taxi horns at the end of Toscanini's Siegfried Idyll.
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
They had opened all the doors at Carnegie Hall in hopes of catching a
breath of air on that sweltering July day in 1952.
largo_57
Jul 27, 2012, 6:23:31 PM7/27/12
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Norman Schwartz
Jul 27, 2012, 6:44:01 PM7/27/12
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wade wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my
> personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the
> mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the
> infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings.
During the beginning of the last movement of the Heifetz/Reiner Tchaikovsky
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my
> personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the
> mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the
> infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings.
Concerto at 0:27 to 0:45 the microphones picked up sounds of nearby
hammering (?). I easily hear this when listening to the standard (redbook)
release, RCA/BMG Living Stereo disc no. 61495.
http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Tchaikovsky-Concertos-Jascha-Heifetz/dp/B000003FEA/ref=sr_1_5?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1343428820&sr=1-5&keywords=heifetz+Reiner+tchaikovsky
graham
Jul 27, 2012, 6:54:49 PM7/27/12
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Some recordings made in English churches have the sound of birds and
sometimes bats.
randy...@gmail.com
Jul 27, 2012, 7:04:17 PM7/27/12
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Josquin
Jul 27, 2012, 7:30:33 PM7/27/12
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I know this is a somewhat different concern, and perhaps I am the only
person disturbed by this, but I don't care for the sounds of the
fingers on the strings that we hear on so many guitar recordings or
the noise from the mechanism of harpsichords.
This is caused by the engineers putting the microphones right next to
the instruments, so the sound in the recording is nothing at all like
what you hear in the concert hall. It is a shame that the delicate
sounds of these instruments turn into earsplitting noise on some
recordings, so I tend to avoid versions of keyboard works on
harpsichord and choose a piano version instead.
Was wondering if anyone at all here feels this way - or if someone
could recommend a version of (say) Scarlatti sonatas on a harpsichord
recording with the microphones a reasonable distance away?
person disturbed by this, but I don't care for the sounds of the
fingers on the strings that we hear on so many guitar recordings or
the noise from the mechanism of harpsichords.
This is caused by the engineers putting the microphones right next to
the instruments, so the sound in the recording is nothing at all like
what you hear in the concert hall. It is a shame that the delicate
sounds of these instruments turn into earsplitting noise on some
recordings, so I tend to avoid versions of keyboard works on
harpsichord and choose a piano version instead.
Was wondering if anyone at all here feels this way - or if someone
could recommend a version of (say) Scarlatti sonatas on a harpsichord
recording with the microphones a reasonable distance away?
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I prefer the live performance of the "Idyll" of 7 March 1953, which (at
least on the Fonit-Cetra CD release from the '80s) has its own, even more
special "extraneous" noise: As the final chord fades, Toscanini can be
heard to utter, "Bella!" And how right he was, at that.
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least on the Fonit-Cetra CD release from the '80s) has its own, even more
special "extraneous" noise: As the final chord fades, Toscanini can be
heard to utter, "Bella!" And how right he was, at that.
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Isn't there an infamously sad/funny story about a recording engineer who had
to resort to shooting the birds so that their chirping wouldn't ruin a
particularly difficult recording session?
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particularly difficult recording session?
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Jul 27, 2012, 10:58:43 PM7/27/12
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> -------------------------------------------------- Some
> recordings made in English churches have the sound of birds and
> sometimes bats.
I have a recording of lovely performance of Mozart K.482 from the 2009 La Roque
Festival with Anne Queffelec accompanied by Sinfonia Varsovia and a chorus of
crickets. Of course one expects that sort of thing outdoors. I dimly recall an
amusing article (in Stereo Review?) Igor Kipnis's efforts to make a recording on the
clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom turned out to be the best venue.
AC
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> -------------------------------------------------- Some
> recordings made in English churches have the sound of birds and
> sometimes bats.
Festival with Anne Queffelec accompanied by Sinfonia Varsovia and a chorus of
crickets. Of course one expects that sort of thing outdoors. I dimly recall an
amusing article (in Stereo Review?) Igor Kipnis's efforts to make a recording on the
clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom turned out to be the best venue.
AC
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In the Beethoven Emperor Concerto with Gieseking and Arthur Rother
conducting from Berlin during the war, one can hear the anti-aircraft
guns firing. Original 1970s/early '80s USA LP: Varese/Sarabande VC
80180. Genuine stereo.
Don Tait
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> > In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I
> > think you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
>
> Bombs on Berlin, Furtwängler (IIRC Beethoven 9th).
> > In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I
> > think you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
>
In the Beethoven Emperor Concerto with Gieseking and Arthur Rother
conducting from Berlin during the war, one can hear the anti-aircraft
guns firing. Original 1970s/early '80s USA LP: Varese/Sarabande VC
80180. Genuine stereo.
Don Tait
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Jul 28, 2012, 4:17:15 PM7/28/12
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Victor recording of "Appalachian Spring" with the Boston Symphony.
1959. There's a distant fanfare of auto horns from outside Symphony
Hall.
Don Tait
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Jul 28, 2012, 5:06:54 PM7/28/12
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Dare I say it? "Hey, you can't play that trumpet here! There's a concert
going on!"
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of the Grieg Piano Concerto with Grainger and Stokowski?
> I dimly recall an amusing article (in Stereo Review?) Igor Kipnis's
> efforts to make a recording on the clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom
> turned out to be the best venue.
So THAT's where Nimbus got the idea!
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>> Some recordings made in English churches have the sound of birds and
>> sometimes bats.
>
> I have a recording of lovely performance of Mozart K.482 from the 2009 La
> Roque Festival with Anne Queffelec accompanied by Sinfonia Varsovia and a
> chorus of crickets. Of course one expects that sort of thing outdoors.
How could I have forgotten the crickets in the Hollywood Bowl performance
>> sometimes bats.
>
> I have a recording of lovely performance of Mozart K.482 from the 2009 La
> Roque Festival with Anne Queffelec accompanied by Sinfonia Varsovia and a
> chorus of crickets. Of course one expects that sort of thing outdoors.
of the Grieg Piano Concerto with Grainger and Stokowski?
> I dimly recall an amusing article (in Stereo Review?) Igor Kipnis's
> efforts to make a recording on the clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom
> turned out to be the best venue.
The Historian
Jul 29, 2012, 3:08:23 AM7/29/12
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On Jul 27, 1:01 pm, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
The pre WWII Das Lied von der Erde in which a woman in the audience
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
says "Deutchland Uber Alles."
The Historian
Jul 29, 2012, 3:10:40 AM7/29/12
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On Jul 27, 1:01 pm, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
Some of the mono Casals recordings of encore pieces have the sound of
traffic in the background.
Andrew Rose
Jul 29, 2012, 3:17:58 AM7/29/12
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On 27/07/2012 19:01, wade wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
>
Boult's 1945 Planets Suite with the BBC SO (recorded at the Corn
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
>
Exchange, Bedford) includes what sounded to me like heavy overflying
aircraft in the background to (AFAIR) Neptune. I've often wondered
whether they might have been bombers on their way to or coming back from
Germany?
The Historian
Jul 29, 2012, 3:18:51 AM7/29/12
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> In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I think you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
> There's also a Ma Vlast from 1969 in New England I think where there's an almighty thunder storm in the middle
If I recall correctly, the Ma Vlast was conducted by Ancerl.
> In some of the wartime recordings made in London and in Berlin I think you can hear bombs exploding in the background.
> There's also a Ma Vlast from 1969 in New England I think where there's an almighty thunder storm in the middle
Sticking with live performances that circulate privately, there's a
Mahler 4 conducted by David Zinman which includes a gasp from the
audience shortly after Dawn Upshaw finishes her solo. I presume
someone must have tripped or fallen, but I don't know for sure.
Speaking of Mahler, has the NYP/Gilbert 9th with ringing cellphone
been taped?
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Jul 29, 2012, 8:48:28 AM7/29/12
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On Friday, July 27, 2012 12:01:16 PM UTC-5, wade wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
Actually, the "clanking" was indeed heard in the Mata Daphnis by at least one early reviewer. I don't remember who it was (probably someone with Stereo Review or High Fidelity), but one critic thought it was music stands being moved backstage. Actually, it was digital noise introduced in the editing process. When the Daphnis was remastered, the noise was removed.
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
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>> I dimly recall an amusing article (in Stereo Review?) Igor Kipnis's
>> efforts to make a recording on the clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom
>> turned out to be the best venue.
>
> So THAT's where Nimbus got the idea!
I recall that the sound effect for the Martian ship opening in the
>> efforts to make a recording on the clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom
>> turned out to be the best venue.
>
> So THAT's where Nimbus got the idea!
Mercury Theater's "War of the Worlds" was recorded in a bathroom for the
resonance.
Kip W
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> Speaking of Mahler, has the NYP/Gilbert 9th with ringing cellphone
> been taped?
I have a Dallas SO broadcast where Jakob Hrusa extends a rest in the
>
> Speaking of Mahler, has the NYP/Gilbert 9th with ringing cellphone
> been taped?
Mendelssohn Midsummer Night's Dream Overture (during those four soft
chords) so some idiot can answer their phone.
There's also a Tanglewood broadcast with Tennstedt and the BSO (of
what I can't recall) floating around in which a single bird squawks
incessantly throughout.
largo_57
Jul 29, 2012, 1:16:42 PM7/29/12
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> Dare I say it? "Hey, you can't play that trumpet here! There's a concert
> going on!"
>
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Actually, I think it was "Oy! You can't play that trumpet here..."
>
> Dare I say it? "Hey, you can't play that trumpet here! There's a concert
> going on!"
>
> --
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156fb3...@r33g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> I have a Dallas SO broadcast where Jakob Hrusa extends a rest in the
> Mendelssohn Midsummer Night's Dream Overture (during those four soft
> chords) so some idiot can answer their phone.
For added effect, the conductor could have proclaimed, "Lord, what fools
these mortals be!"
> There's also a Tanglewood broadcast with Tennstedt and the BSO (of
> what I can't recall) floating around in which a single bird squawks
> incessantly throughout.
I suppose it would be too much to hope they were playing some Messiaen.
be typed in news:8ffca63a-15a9-411e-ad84-
156fb3...@r33g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> I have a Dallas SO broadcast where Jakob Hrusa extends a rest in the
> Mendelssohn Midsummer Night's Dream Overture (during those four soft
> chords) so some idiot can answer their phone.
these mortals be!"
> There's also a Tanglewood broadcast with Tennstedt and the BSO (of
> what I can't recall) floating around in which a single bird squawks
> incessantly throughout.
Matthew�B.�Tepper
Jul 29, 2012, 3:23:56 PM7/29/12
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largo_57 <brya...@aol.com> appears to have caused the following letters to
be typed in news:e3ad6774-e27a-476e-9564-30c9a828ca72
@e7g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 28, 10:53�pm, "Matthew�B.�Tepper" <oy�@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dare I say it? �"Hey, you can't play that trumpet here! �There's a co
>> ncert going on!"
>
Although I think in an earlier era, it might have been "Faith and begorrah!"
be typed in news:e3ad6774-e27a-476e-9564-30c9a828ca72
@e7g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
> On Jul 28, 10:53�pm, "Matthew�B.�Tepper" <oy�@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dare I say it? �"Hey, you can't play that trumpet here! �There's a co
>> ncert going on!"
>
> Actually, I think it was "Oy! You can't play that trumpet here..."
In New York's Central Park, it most certainly would have been "Hey!"
Although I think in an earlier era, it might have been "Faith and begorrah!"
Bill Anderson
Jul 29, 2012, 3:43:25 PM7/29/12
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Yes -
Carl Schuricht was conducting the Concergebouw Oct 5, 1939. 19 minutes
into the final movement, a woman can be heard quite clearly say
"Deutschland über alles, Herr Schuricht..." and some hissing from the
audience regarding this comment.
An excellent discussion of this can be found in the RMCR archives
(thanks to the 'old' google groups access) back in 1999:
http://tinyurl.com/bo6a8ac
- Bill A.
Carl Schuricht was conducting the Concergebouw Oct 5, 1939. 19 minutes
into the final movement, a woman can be heard quite clearly say
"Deutschland über alles, Herr Schuricht..." and some hissing from the
audience regarding this comment.
An excellent discussion of this can be found in the RMCR archives
(thanks to the 'old' google groups access) back in 1999:
http://tinyurl.com/bo6a8ac
- Bill A.
largo_57
Jul 29, 2012, 6:26:17 PM7/29/12
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On Jul 29, 2:23 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> largo_57 <bryanb...@aol.com> appears to have caused the following letters to
performed the Leonore Overture No. 3. Now where did I read that story?
> largo_57 <bryanb...@aol.com> appears to have caused the following letters to
> > On Jul 28, 10:53 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> Dare I say it? "Hey, you can't play that trumpet here! There's a co
> >> ncert going on!"
>
> > Actually, I think it was "Oy! You can't play that trumpet here..."
>
> In New York's Central Park, it most certainly would have been "Hey!"
> Although I think in an earlier era, it might have been "Faith and begorrah!"
Hah! I was thinking of the missing trumpet calls when Beecham
>
> >> Dare I say it? "Hey, you can't play that trumpet here! There's a co
> >> ncert going on!"
>
> > Actually, I think it was "Oy! You can't play that trumpet here..."
>
> In New York's Central Park, it most certainly would have been "Hey!"
> Although I think in an earlier era, it might have been "Faith and begorrah!"
performed the Leonore Overture No. 3. Now where did I read that story?
Terry
Jul 29, 2012, 9:42:09 PM7/29/12
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wade <wade...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my
> personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the
> mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous
> 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of
> the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe
> and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises
> in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk.
> Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure
> if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening
> via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has
> anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other
> instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the
> recording that are particularly interesting?
I'm sure you can hear the London underground in the Perlman/Ashkenazy
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my
> personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the
> mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous
> 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of
> the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe
> and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises
> in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk.
> Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure
> if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening
> via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has
> anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other
> instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the
> recording that are particularly interesting?
recordings of the Beethoven violin sonatas. I don't have these recordings
now, so don't ask me to point out where.
--
Cheers, Terry
Terry
Jul 29, 2012, 9:42:09 PM7/29/12
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wade <wade...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my
> personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the
> mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous
> 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of
> the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe
> and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises
> in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk.
> Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure
> if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening
> via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has
> anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other
> instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the
> recording that are particularly interesting?
There was a recording of Alfonso el Sabio's Cantigas, recorded (I think by
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my
> personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the
> mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous
> 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of
> the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe
> and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises
> in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk.
> Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure
> if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening
> via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has
> anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other
> instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the
> recording that are particularly interesting?
Harmonia Mundi or Europdisc) in a Spanish cathedral, where birds chirped
intermittently throughout the recordings. The liner notes apologised for
them, but went on to say that efforts to silence or remove the birds had
failed.
--
Cheers, Terry
Kip Williams
Jul 29, 2012, 10:03:46 PM7/29/12
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Terry wrote:
> There was a recording of Alfonso el Sabio's Cantigas, recorded (I think by
> Harmonia Mundi or Europdisc) in a Spanish cathedral, where birds chirped
> intermittently throughout the recordings. The liner notes apologised for
> them, but went on to say that efforts to silence or remove the birds had
> failed.
KVOD had a mike by a bird feeder, and they'd mix the birds in as a
> There was a recording of Alfonso el Sabio's Cantigas, recorded (I think by
> Harmonia Mundi or Europdisc) in a Spanish cathedral, where birds chirped
> intermittently throughout the recordings. The liner notes apologised for
> them, but went on to say that efforts to silence or remove the birds had
> failed.
background for the announcers. Not during the music, though!
Kip W
Kirk McElhearn at dot
Jul 30, 2012, 2:35:29 AM7/30/12
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On 2012-07-29 19:23:57 +0000, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> said:
>> There's also a Tanglewood broadcast with Tennstedt and the BSO (of
>> what I can't recall) floating around in which a single bird squawks
>> incessantly throughout.
>
> I suppose it would be too much to hope they were playing some Messiaen.
Maybe it was Rautavaara's Concerto for Birds and Orchestra…
>> There's also a Tanglewood broadcast with Tennstedt and the BSO (of
>> what I can't recall) floating around in which a single bird squawks
>> incessantly throughout.
>
> I suppose it would be too much to hope they were playing some Messiaen.
Kirk
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operafan
Jul 30, 2012, 8:06:01 AM7/30/12
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On Jul 29, 3:18 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Speaking of Mahler, has the NYP/Gilbert 9th with ringing cellphone
> been taped?
I don't know, but the live performance that ended up in their iphone
> Speaking of Mahler, has the NYP/Gilbert 9th with ringing cellphone
> been taped?
app (and presumably in the radio broadcast) is a fine performance,
sans cellphone.
Edward Cowan
Jul 30, 2012, 8:55:34 AM7/30/12
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I think I can hear automobile horns at the end of Helen Traubel's
"Liebestod" with NYPO/Rodzinski... --E.A.C.
wade <wade...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any
other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of
the recording that are particularly interesting?
--
hrabanus
"Liebestod" with NYPO/Rodzinski... --E.A.C.
wade <wade...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any
other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of
the recording that are particularly interesting?
hrabanus
O
Jul 30, 2012, 1:17:36 PM7/30/12
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In article
<8ffca63a-15a9-411e...@r33g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
That would be the Beethoven 5th Symphony, and the performance is
excellent, whether in spite of, or due to, the bird is arguable.
-Owen
<8ffca63a-15a9-411e...@r33g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
excellent, whether in spite of, or due to, the bird is arguable.
-Owen
patterbear
Jul 30, 2012, 1:42:34 PM7/30/12
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On Jul 30, 10:17 am, O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote:
> In article
> <8ffca63a-15a9-411e-ad84-156fb3cea...@r33g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
"Pastoral" (available on the "Memories" label of a broadcast Beethoven
cycle) and the bird fits in quite well...another Beethoven recording I
recall being marred by a noise is the Horowitz/Reiner "Emperor" where
in a pause in the orchestra (slow movement) there is a perfectly timed
auto horn in the wrong-very wrong key. This may have been removed in
recent remasterings.
> In article
> <8ffca63a-15a9-411e-ad84-156fb3cea...@r33g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> largo_57 <bryanb...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 29, 2:18 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Speaking of Mahler, has the NYP/Gilbert 9th with ringing cellphone
> > > been taped?
>
> > I have a Dallas SO broadcast where Jakob Hrusa extends a rest in the
> > Mendelssohn Midsummer Night's Dream Overture (during those four soft
> > chords) so some idiot can answer their phone.
>
> > There's also a Tanglewood broadcast with Tennstedt and the BSO (of
> > what I can't recall) floating around in which a single bird squawks
> > incessantly throughout.
>
> That would be the Beethoven 5th Symphony, and the performance is
> excellent, whether in spite of, or due to, the bird is arguable.
>
> -Owen
Actually it was a Tennstedt/BSO Tanglewood Beethoven
> largo_57 <bryanb...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 29, 2:18 am, The Historian <neil.thehistor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Speaking of Mahler, has the NYP/Gilbert 9th with ringing cellphone
> > > been taped?
>
> > I have a Dallas SO broadcast where Jakob Hrusa extends a rest in the
> > Mendelssohn Midsummer Night's Dream Overture (during those four soft
> > chords) so some idiot can answer their phone.
>
> > There's also a Tanglewood broadcast with Tennstedt and the BSO (of
> > what I can't recall) floating around in which a single bird squawks
> > incessantly throughout.
>
> That would be the Beethoven 5th Symphony, and the performance is
> excellent, whether in spite of, or due to, the bird is arguable.
>
> -Owen
"Pastoral" (available on the "Memories" label of a broadcast Beethoven
cycle) and the bird fits in quite well...another Beethoven recording I
recall being marred by a noise is the Horowitz/Reiner "Emperor" where
in a pause in the orchestra (slow movement) there is a perfectly timed
auto horn in the wrong-very wrong key. This may have been removed in
recent remasterings.
Dontait...@aol.com
Jul 30, 2012, 2:42:37 PM7/30/12
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On Jul 28, 10:53 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Alan Cooper <amcoo...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> appears to have caused the
> > "graham" <g.ste...@shaw.ca> wrote in
> >news:Z_EQr.86033$l_1...@newsfe21.iad:
>
> >> Some recordings made in English churches have the sound of birds and
> >> sometimes bats.
>
> > I have a recording of lovely performance of Mozart K.482 from the 2009 La
> > Roque Festival with Anne Queffelec accompanied by Sinfonia Varsovia and a
> > chorus of crickets. Of course one expects that sort of thing outdoors.
>
> How could I have forgotten the crickets in the Hollywood Bowl performance
> of the Grieg Piano Concerto with Grainger and Stokowski?
One can also hear crickets in Rudolf Serkin's circa 1957/8 Columbia
>
> >> Some recordings made in English churches have the sound of birds and
> >> sometimes bats.
>
> > I have a recording of lovely performance of Mozart K.482 from the 2009 La
> > Roque Festival with Anne Queffelec accompanied by Sinfonia Varsovia and a
> > chorus of crickets. Of course one expects that sort of thing outdoors.
>
> How could I have forgotten the crickets in the Hollywood Bowl performance
> of the Grieg Piano Concerto with Grainger and Stokowski?
recording of Beethoven's Diabelli Variations. It was made at Marlboro,
in a bucolic setting. Perhaps some windows were open, or the sound
just penetrated.
>
> > I dimly recall an amusing article (in Stereo Review?) Igor Kipnis's
> > efforts to make a recording on the clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom
> > turned out to be the best venue.
>
> So THAT's where Nimbus got the idea!
I remember reading that when Peter Bartok was engineering LP
> > I dimly recall an amusing article (in Stereo Review?) Igor Kipnis's
> > efforts to make a recording on the clavichord. IIRC an interior bathroom
> > turned out to be the best venue.
>
> So THAT's where Nimbus got the idea!
recordings, mainly in the 1950s, he added reverberation by playing
back and re-recording tapes in an echoey tiled bathroom. But perhaps
that's just another urban legend. Whatever, his records had/have
extremely good sound and natural-sounding reverberation.
Don Tait
Dontait...@aol.com
Jul 30, 2012, 2:59:33 PM7/30/12
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concerts every Wednesday at 8 PM. I was the announcer on duty for them
for years. So there it was on the air, with the bird squawking loudly.
The phone rang in the control room. I answered it. The following
unforgettable exchange ensued.
Listener: "there's a bird in there! It's loud! Why don't they do
something about it?"
WFMT announcer (me): "well, it's the Tanglewood Shed."
"Whadda ya mean? How'd a bird get in there anyway?"
"It's essentially open-air. Open on three sides. It probably just
flew in."
"So why don't they do something about it? Get it out?"
"It's probably sitting on a girder up by the roof and they'd never
get to it, it would fly away anyway if they came close, meanwhile the
orchestra is playing and why interrupt the concert and...."
"Click"
Don Tait
Dontait...@aol.com
Jul 30, 2012, 3:49:03 PM7/30/12
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I can think of at least two published recordings in which there are
serious electronic noises. First: J. Strauss II: Emperor Waltzes --
Frederick Stock/Chicago Symphony Orchestra. Victor (single, two sides)
78 7653. Recorded December 23, 1930, in Orchestra Hall.
The original issue was very short-lived, perhaps because of loud
electronic popping noises on side two. They sound very much like the
malfunction of something. Perhaps tubes. My owned and examined copies
have shown take 2 for that side. The record was reissued after the
war. It and even some early copies might have utilized take 3, and
that might have been quiet, but I have not obtained copies that might
contain that take.
Other extraneous, evidently electronic noises include the weird
occasional "bonging" sounds in such early electrical British Columbia
recordings as Sir Henry Wood's Beethoven Eroica.
Don Tait
O
Jul 30, 2012, 6:16:18 PM7/30/12
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In article
<d434692a-7cef-4a4b...@lq16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Well, the bird must have done a reprise on the 6th, as I have a
recording of the 5th on 8-8-76 at Tanglewood, in which Heckle is
clearly present.
Don't remember an auto horn in the Horowitz Reiner "Emperor." Have to
listen again more closely.
-Owen
<d434692a-7cef-4a4b...@lq16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
recording of the 5th on 8-8-76 at Tanglewood, in which Heckle is
clearly present.
Don't remember an auto horn in the Horowitz Reiner "Emperor." Have to
listen again more closely.
-Owen
largo_57
Jul 30, 2012, 6:14:32 PM7/30/12
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On Jul 27, 12:01 pm, wade <wadewo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
The original RCA 78rpm issue of Prokofiev's 'Lt. Kije' Suite with
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
Koussevitzky and the BSO has Koussevitzky saying "Let us begin." This
was edited out on the LP reissue.
And, of course, there's Harry Ellis Dickson's anecdote about recording
Debussy's 'La Mer' where one of the 78 sides ended with a high soft
trumpet note. The player cracked the note on several successive takes,
but finally a take was perfect, and Koussevitsky burst out with
"Thanks be to God!" Unfortunately, they had to do it again because
"Thanks be to God!" was in the run-out groove.
patterbear
Jul 31, 2012, 2:26:57 AM7/31/12
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> <d434692a-7cef-4a4b-88d3-1b87a0ef1...@lq16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
The date that "Memories" label gives for the 6th is 7-27-75...perhaps
it was Jeckle...
it was Jeckle...
O
Jul 31, 2012, 7:08:57 AM7/31/12
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In article
<a9c46021-76ba-4ddd...@d6g2000pbt.googlegroups.com>,
Perhaps Tennstedt was considered charming in avian society.
-Owen
<a9c46021-76ba-4ddd...@d6g2000pbt.googlegroups.com>,
-Owen
thor...@gmail.com
Apr 24, 2018, 10:54:25 AM4/24/18
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I've been using this recording for testing turntable/cartridge issues, and listening closely with headphones. The noises are incredible, I can't believe they could issue this with all the fanfare about the brand new miraculous digital recording techniques and not notice it. I think many of them are control board switches being flipped far from the stage, based on the long reverb tails you can hear on them. There also seem to be a few instrument-specific noises, maybe a cymbal tail just before the start. I'm guessing they really had no idea how sensitive the mics would be to noises which would normally have been masked by analog disk groove noise. I use it as a test in part because the dynamic range is the widest I've encountered on vinyl.
thor...@gmail.com
Apr 24, 2018, 10:59:11 AM4/24/18
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Sorryy, this was in reference to the original posting regarding the Stravinsky Dallas Orchestra / Mata RCA recording.
mo...@cloud9.net
Apr 24, 2018, 3:31:07 PM4/24/18
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On Friday, July 27, 2012 at 1:01:16 PM UTC-4, wade wrote:
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
Hi,
> Talk of unusual extraneous sounds in recordings brings to mind my personal favorite, beyond the truck sounds in the background of the mid-1950s BSO recordings (Ravel/Debussy in particular) and the infamous 7th Ave Subway in Carnegie Hall recordings. When I first got copies of the Mata Dallas SO early digital recordings of Ravel's Daphnis & Chloe and Stravinsky's Firebird Suite, I could swear i heard clanking noises in the background, as though someone was walking on a metal catwalk. Nobody ever mentioned them in reviews of the recordings, so I wasnt sure if it was just me or not. At that time I was doing a lot of listening via headphones as I had a housemate who hated classical music. Has anyone else noted these sounds in those particular recordings? Any other instances of sounds encountered that were not planned as part of the recording that are particularly interesting?
In at least 3 instances, recordings of jazz/swing included the F word. They occurred with Harry James band circa 1941, Eddie Heywood's band in the same era, and Louis Armstrong/Billie Holiday in 1946 or so. Interestingly enough,when they were transferred to LP and then to CD, the F word was retained. I can give references upon request.
Mort Linder
mo...@cloud9.net
Apr 24, 2018, 8:18:17 PM4/24/18
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Mort Linder
KimDenmark
Apr 25, 2018, 7:53:47 AM4/25/18
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I remember a recording from some italian pirate label: Debussy payed by Richter in a church; live with an audience. Memorable moments: When the church - bells start chiming and when a moped passes the ( apparently ) open church - doors. Richter just plays on, beautifully as always.
Theres also the famaous Liszt / Nyireghazi recital with all sorts of traffic noises.
Theres also the famaous Liszt / Nyireghazi recital with all sorts of traffic noises.
graham
Apr 25, 2018, 8:57:23 AM4/25/18
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On 2018-04-25 5:53 AM, KimDenmark wrote:
> I remember a recording from some italian pirate label: Debussy payed by Richter in a church; live with an audience. Memorable moments: When the church - bells start chiming and when a moped passes the ( apparently ) open church - doors. Richter just plays on, beautifully as always.
>
> Theres also the famaous Liszt / Nyireghazi recital with all sorts of traffic noises.
>
The Perlman/Ashkenazy set of the Beethoven sonatas was recorded in the
> I remember a recording from some italian pirate label: Debussy payed by Richter in a church; live with an audience. Memorable moments: When the church - bells start chiming and when a moped passes the ( apparently ) open church - doors. Richter just plays on, beautifully as always.
>
> Theres also the famaous Liszt / Nyireghazi recital with all sorts of traffic noises.
>
Kingsway Hall, below which one of the London Underground (subway) lines
ran. One can occasionally here the rumble of a train in the quieter
passages.
O
Apr 25, 2018, 11:34:22 AM4/25/18
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In article <8e8c56f9-16ea-4350...@googlegroups.com>,
In the Tanglewood 75 years release set, the Dvorak concerto with Beaux
Arts (original Beaux Arts, 1964 recording), there are crickets
accompanying where, based on the frequency response of your speakers,
are either barely heard or overwhelm the concert.
-Owen
Arts (original Beaux Arts, 1964 recording), there are crickets
accompanying where, based on the frequency response of your speakers,
are either barely heard or overwhelm the concert.
-Owen
Frank Berger
Apr 25, 2018, 12:12:06 PM4/25/18
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