The best recording of Beethoven Symphony 3 & 5
gs...@mail.hkstar.com
Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
Regards,
Wilfred
Adam W. Grasso
George Szell/Cleveland Orchestra on Sony Essential Classics. His Eroica &
5 will thrill, move, and amaze you beyond most other recordings.
Adam
--
Adam W. Grasso Dept. of Molecular Biology/Microbiology
aw...@po.cwru.edu Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, OH USA School of Medicine
Gene Gaudette
modern recordings - superb sound, propulsive pacing. For a more lyrical,
poetic performance, you might want to try the Morris/London Symphony
recording on Pickwick or the live Tennstedt/London Philharmonic recording,
recently released on EMI.
Symphony No. 5: the Carlos Kleiber/Vienna Philharmonic recording (DG),
recorded in 1975, is my favorite. This is one of those rare occasions
where critics have been unanimous in their praise - and I've actually
agreed!
Gene
Chang Wu Ji
do <not find satisfactory.
<Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
<Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
<Regards,
<Wilfred
For the Eroica, I like Szell with the Cleveland Orchestra on CBS Great
Performance label(I think you can get it cheaper on Essential Classics though),
the 1957 stereo sound is still excellent. For number 5 Kleiber with the VPO is
a no-brainer, so is Giulini with the LAPO, both on DG. You are welcome to check
out any of Toscannini's old recordings made in the late 30's and 40's with the
NBCSO. IMHO that is how Beethoven should be played.
Doc Alan
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>I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
>Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>Regards,
>Wilfred
For No.3, I like Wllhelm Furtwaengler with Vienna Philharmonic on EMI.
For No.5, Carlos Kleiber (coupled with also excellent No.7)on DG Originals is
my favorite.
Sung Hoon Cho
Robert A. Prentiss
On 22 Jan 1996 gs...@mail.hkstar.com wrote:
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5.
> But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
I find most contemporary offerings somewhat lame, so I'd
like to recommend some historical recordings of the symphonies you
mentioned. Be daring and get one.
For the Eroica, the 1944 broadcast with Furtwaengler conducting
the VPO (available on Music & Arts and Preiser) is very intense and well
proportioned in its romanticism. His 1950's studio recording on EMI is
noble, but the environment seems to have toned down the spontaneity.
Nevertheless both are in very clear sound for their ages. I am also fond
of Weingartner's recording with the VPO from 1936 (on Preiser), with its
reactionary classicism. It has an elegant funeral march and scherzo and
overall I think much better of it than Toscanini's (in)famous live
account with the NBC Orchestra of three years later, whose own variety of
objectivism doesn't flatter this humanistic symphony (but does warrant a
Penguin Guide inclusion). In fact it gives me a headache.
For the Fifth, I do like Toscanini's 1933 broadcast (on Music &
Arts and Pearl) quite a bit, actually. This sounds more like the
Toscanini of legend (the good legend, that is), and in fact if one listened
to a lot of German-romantic interpretations of this symphony beforehand,
he or she might even be startled by it. It is slower than you would
expect, with extreme (almost Furtwaenglerian) variations in dynamics and
ruthless precision. One would think Toscanini's objectivism would not be
hampered by studio restrictions but here I think it would, and it is a
great document to have. On the other end of the spectrum, Furtwaengler's
performance from 1947 (on Music & Arts) upon his return to the BPO after
the war is wonderful, too. I especially like the way the scherzo
fades quietly and slowly into the background noise of the players and
audience, and is interrupted by a forceful duo of coughs in the buildup
to the finale, which then thunders and accelerates relentlessly to the end.
These I think you will find more interesting than the
unsatisfactory modern recordings that you write of.
Robert Prentiss
ifc...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Steven Chung
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Bob Caulk
>I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
>Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>Regards,
>Wilfred
For the fifth I would highly recommend the 2 cd set just released by Phillips
titlted Szell The Early Years. It contains performances of Beethoven's 5th,
Sibelius 2nd, and Mozarts 34th along Mendelsohns incidental music to a
Midsummer Nights dream and Schuberts Rosamunde overture with Szell conducting
the Royal Concertgebouw. The remasteredsound is better than many digital
recordings I have and the Performances are at the top. This fifth is
currently my favorite along with the Furtwangler Berlin 1942 (on
Grammophono 2000) and the Karajan 1977. You should also give Otto
Klemperer's 1955 mono on EMI a try. Undoubtedly others will recommend the
1975 Kleiber and I would agree but it is not my favorite. I also find Charles
Munch Boston symphony recording of the 5th very enjoyable on RCA Papillion
label (avoid the newer remastered one by RCA on a bright red and white
label: the base was overloaded on my cd).
For the Beethoven 3rd try Klemperer's stereo version on EMI and Szell's on
Sony with the Cleveland orchestra. The Szell version has the most exciting
ending I've yet heard. Also Erich Kleiber's 1950 recording with the
Concertgebouw (Decca) and Furt. Vienna recording (EMI) are also very
enjoyable. I've heard that Erich Kleiber's 1955 recording with Vienna is
even better than the Concertgebouw version and I myself would like to hear
from others whether this is indeed so.
Salim Butt
>
>I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still
do not find satisfactory.
>Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
>Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
No.2 Norrington LCP
No.3 Erich Kleiber VPO or A.Toscanini NBC
No.4 Carlos Kleiber Bayerisches Staatsorchster
No.5 Carlos Kleiber VPO or Herrmann Scherchen O of the Wiener Staatsoper
No.6 Leibowitz RPO or Victor de Sabata O of the Academia di Santa Cecilia
No.7 Carlos Kleiber VPO or Guido Cantelli PO or A.Toscanini NYP
No.8 Norrington LCP or De Sabata
No.9 Erich Kleiber VPO
kimiko
>I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
>Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
It also includes rehearsal for the 2nd movement: Funeral March. You can hear how Monteux creates the 2nd movement with the orchestr=
a. It might be fun to listen to.
No. 5 Erich Klieber/Koln Radiosymphony Orchestra / Seven Seas(?)
I usually like Carlos, but somehow for No.5, I prefer Erich to Carlos.
Happy listening,
Kimiko
Tom Christy
: <I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still
: do <not find satisfactory.
: <Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
: <Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
: <Regards,
: <Wilfred
: For the Eroica, I like Szell with the Cleveland Orchestra on CBS Great
: Performance label(I think you can get it cheaper on Essential Classics though),
: the 1957 stereo sound is still excellent. For number 5 Kleiber with the VPO is
: a no-brainer, so is Giulini with the LAPO, both on DG.
DG has just re-released the Kleiber 5 paired with 7 (should be hitting
the stores this month), so if you see the old issue of 5 on a CD by
itself, don't buy it - wait.
S. LaBonne
Tom Christy <chri...@taft.law.uc.edu> wrote:
>DG has just re-released the Kleiber 5 paired with 7 (should be hitting
>the stores this month), so if you see the old issue of 5 on a CD by
>itself, don't buy it - wait.
Just picked up my copy at last [thanks DG for making us American saps
wait so long for the Originals series :-( ] and people might like to
know that IMHO the remastering job is a great success- _finally_ the
strings really sound like the Vienna Philharmonic! Listen to the man-
run don't walk. Now if they'd only refurbish Kleiber's Brahms 4 the
same way...
--
Opinions are mine alone; I never met a university with opinions!
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"It can never be satisfied, the mind, never." - Wallace Stevens
Linda McGregor (Bill, Jan, Linda, & Martin)
writes:
>Chang Wu Ji (rap...@mit.edu) wrote:
>: <I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5.
But I still
>: do <not find satisfactory.
>: <Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
>: <Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>
>: <Regards,
>
>: <Wilfred
>
>: For the Eroica, I like Szell with the Cleveland Orchestra on CBS
Great
>: Performance label(I think you can get it cheaper on Essential
Classics though),
>: the 1957 stereo sound is still excellent. For number 5 Kleiber with
the VPO is
>: a no-brainer, so is Giulini with the LAPO, both on DG.
>
>the stores this month), so if you see the old issue of 5 on a CD by
>itself, don't buy it - wait.
>
The reissued Kleiber 5 and 7, on mid-price DG Originals series, just
hit Houston this week. I listened to it and confirmed what I
remembered after several years: 5 isn't as great as people say, and 7
is damn good!!!
For me, I agree that the Szell Eroica is terrific. I would recommend
the Gardiner coupling of the 5th and Eroica on one full-price CD.
Really dynamite stuff!!
For me, the standard for the 5th symphony is the Reiner & Chicago Sym.,
despite overloaded/ugly sound at some climaxes. Can RCA clean this up?
Bill Atkerson
Kes Technologies Corp.
Houston, Texas
kes...@ix.netcom.com
James C Liu
>I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
>Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
Count me among the historicists. I like Furtwaengler's two recordings with
the Vienna PO for the Eroica. Furtwaengler's conception is full of tempo
shifts, a broad, heroic approach, and a unique orchestral sound, crackling
with electricity in a wartime performance from 1944 (Music & Arts, Bayer)
and surprisingly transparent in a 1950's studio recording (EMI).
Carlos Kleiber's VPO DG recording grabs the listener by the throat and
doesn't let go until the final bars die out. It's wonderful -- but not
as good as the even higher-voltage recording made by his father, Erich.
Concertgebouw Orchestra, last seen on London, and worth seeking out.
Recording is circa 1953, and coupled with a fine 6th.
--
/James C.S. Liu "There is always enough to go around -- enough
jl...@world.std.com to keep, enough to reward with, enough to be
Boston, Massachusetts stolen -- as long as you first get it all."
-- Anonymous
William Hong
wrote:
>For me, the standard for the 5th symphony is the Reiner & Chicago Sym.,
>despite overloaded/ugly sound at some climaxes. Can RCA clean this up?
>
>Bill Atkerson
>Kes Technologies Corp.
>Houston, Texas
>kes...@ix.netcom.com
There is also a fine Eroica with Reiner/CSO that I remember--actually
I think it was the first LvB #3 I listened to. If his #5 was recorded
at about the same time (ca. 1955), then that might be during a period
when RCA was recording at higher levels to minimize tape hiss, with
resultant distortion at climaxes. Don't know how "fixable" this is.
Bill H.
alan stone
orchestra.UnlikeKarajan bernstein and fartwangler,Davies is a
serious musician who serves music,not his ego,or the fuhrer as in
cases1 and 3. Alan
Gene Gaudette
Symphony 3 & 5>, 'alan stone <po...@firstnethou.com>' wrote:
>try dennis russell davies.
Try properly capitalization and punctuation ;-)
>It is done with the Bonn
>orchestra.UnlikeKarajan bernstein and fartwangler,Davies is a
>serious musician who serves music,not his ego,or the fuhrer as in
>cases1 and 3.
after all >;-)
In what you refer to as "case 3", the situation was harldy voluntary.
Furtwangler still gets a pretty bad rap from reactionary quarters, which is
pretty shortsighted in light of the facts - including the help he offered
to many musicians during Germany's Nazi era, including one of my music
professors, who was able to leave Germany _only_ because Furtwangler
personally intervened! Furtwangler's performances are intense and
forceful, but wholly musical and hardly egotistical.
Gene
Clement Jim Chow
>try dennis russell davies.It is done with the Bonn
>serious musician who serves music,not his ego,or the fuhrer as in
>
What the hell are you talking about? Serious musician? And I suppose that
you know what a musician is? If you think that Bernstein, Karajan, and
Furtwangler aren'ty serious musicians, you don't listen to music. How old are
you son? Karajan's recordings withBerlin are amazing.
Hope124
hard edge with a lack of transparancy.However the performance is
magnificent and the playing of the CSO is remarkable.The only hope for
better sound is that BMG reissue the recording in its Living Stereo
series.Since this is a great performance there is a possibility that it
will be reissued in that format.
As to integral recordings of the 3rd and the 5th, I agree that you can't
go wrong with the Gardiner recording on a single CD on DG.Really
bracing,heaven storming performances.Most enjoyable.
Martin Saperstein
David M. Cook
alan stone <po...@firstnethou.com> wrote:
[I'll not inflict it on you again.]
Alan, your post reads like it was written by a slow 12 year old. Oh, and
BTW Alan, you're a twit.
Dave Cook
John
Gee, haven't seen any mention of the recent Grdiner disc of both the 3rd and the
5th.
Even if you shy away from period performances, these are powerful! Worth a
listen.
John
John Blair
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>>I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
>>Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>>Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>>Regards,
>>Wilfred
>For No.3, I like Wllhelm Furtwaengler with Vienna Philharmonic on EMI.
>For No.5, Carlos Kleiber (coupled with also excellent No.7)on DG Originals is
>my favorite.
>Sung Hoon Cho
Too bad you're omitting Karajan. The 3rd and 5th Symphonies (and 9th)
are the best from his cycles (especially the '63 one).
John Blair
Neil Tingley
<a163...@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> writes
>do not find satisfactory.
>>Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>>
>>Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>No.2 Norrington LCP
>No.3 Erich Kleiber VPO or A.Toscanini NBC
>No.4 Carlos Kleiber Bayerisches Staatsorchster
>No.5 Carlos Kleiber VPO or Herrmann Scherchen O of the Wiener Staatsoper
>No.6 Leibowitz RPO or Victor de Sabata O of the Academia di Santa Cecilia
>No.7 Carlos Kleiber VPO or Guido Cantelli PO or A.Toscanini NYP
>No.8 Norrington LCP or De Sabata
>No.9 Erich Kleiber VPO
>
recordings made in 1955 with the Philharmonia (not to be confused with
the later Stereo cycle). These rank among the most individual and
powerful accounts of these symphonies ever made, still sound excellent
(thanks to Walter Legge) and must be heard.
If you think Klemp. was always slow, then try these recordings made with
arguably the greatest ever orchestra on absolute peak form.
Klemperer's stereo 1960 remake of the Eroica is also superb. Its a
weighty reading of stature, poetry and wisdom which still remains an
absolute favourite of mine despite Furtwaengler, Kleiber, E. Toscannini,
Beecham et al.
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Linda McGregor (Bill, Jan, Linda, & Martin)
>I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I
still do not find satisfactory. Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
>Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>No.1 Leibowitz RPO
>No.2 Norrington LCP
>No.3 Erich Kleiber VPO or A.Toscanini NBC
>No.4 Carlos Kleiber Bayerisches Staatsorchster
>No.5 Carlos Kleiber VPO or Herrmann Scherchen O of the Wiener
Staatsoper
>No.6 Leibowitz RPO or Victor de Sabata O of the Academia di Santa
Cecilia
>No.7 Carlos Kleiber VPO or Guido Cantelli PO or A.Toscanini NYP
>No.8 Norrington LCP or De Sabata
>No.9 Erich Kleiber VPO
In addition to the above list, I would suggest:
Eroica - Szell and Cleveland
Fifth - Chicago with Reiner (despite overloaded sound at times)
Together (3 + 5), the new Gardinger coupling is amazing, but some may
think it too hard-driven.
Dana Shima
<ne...@music.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>I'm still astonished that so few people mention the EMI mono Klemperer
>recordings made in 1955 with the Philharmonia (not to be confused with
>the later Stereo cycle). These rank among the most individual and
>powerful accounts of these symphonies ever made, still sound excellent
>(thanks to Walter Legge) and must be heard.
>
Agreed!
>If you think Klemp. was always slow, then try these recordings made
with
>arguably the greatest ever orchestra on absolute peak form.
>
>Klemperer's stereo 1960 remake of the Eroica is also superb. Its a
>weighty reading of stature, poetry and wisdom which still remains an
>absolute favourite of mine despite Furtwaengler, Kleiber, E.
Toscannini,
>Beecham et al.
>
But Neil, you forgot to mention the performance that fuses the best
points of Klemp 1 and 2 and Furtwangler - Sir John Barbirolli/BBC
Symphony.
Dana
If anyone from EMI reads this - get cracking on re-releasing this
performance on CD - my old vinyl album is starting to sound a little
frayed!
Salim Butt
says...
>I'm still astonished that so few people mention the EMI mono Klemperer
them. But the list is in no way complete anyway. Both Leibowitz' and
Toscanini's cycles are excellent on the whole. Then there are Toscaninis BBC
recordings. All the Scherchen Beethoven recordings are outstanding. And I
haven't mentioned neither Gielen nor Szell nor Kletzki. Also there is a
complete cycle by Cluytens with BPO of which I have only heard 6th and 9th.
Judging from what I know these recordings should all be highclass as well.
The list was only meant to include my personal favourites, without meaning to
say that there were no alternatives.
Greetings
Salim
ScRichards
<ne...@music.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Klemperer's stereo 1960 remake of the Eroica is also superb. Its a
>weighty reading of stature, poetry and wisdom which still remains an
>absolute favourite of mine despite Furtwaengler, Kleiber, E. Toscannini,
>Beecham et al.
>
>
Beecham??? I don't recall ever having seen, or heard about, a Beecham
Eroica.
Scott Richards
Neil Tingley
<scric...@aol.com> writes
about the date). Was a surprise for me in that the interpretation was
serious and swift, right up there with the greats. (Beecham of course
was reputed to be a superb Wagnerian of course, so one would expect his
Beethoven to be good.)
Due to the usual legal minefields and the BBC's miserly hoarding we'll
probabley never see this recording. Just think how many Proms
performances are in the vaults; and they have a complete Beecham Electra
with who ever was the major exponent of the title role at the time
(forgotten name).
Neil
Role on cable radio and all those endless "repeats" !
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pa...@gate.net
>Chang Wu Ji (rap...@mit.edu) wrote:
>: <I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still
>: do <not find satisfactory.
>: <Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>: <Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>: <Regards,
>: <Wilfred
>: For the Eroica, I like Szell with the Cleveland Orchestra on CBS Great
>: Performance label(I think you can get it cheaper on Essential Classics though),
>: the 1957 stereo sound is still excellent. For number 5 Kleiber with the VPO is
>: a no-brainer, so is Giulini with the LAPO, both on DG.
>DG has just re-released the Kleiber 5 paired with 7 (should be hitting
>the stores this month), so if you see the old issue of 5 on a CD by
>itself, don't buy it - wait.
Cleveland Orchestra under Szell-greatest of the 20th century-
Adam W. Grasso
> Cleveland Orchestra under Szell-greatest of the 20th century-
Now there's a sentiment that's close to my heart! A bit of intentional
hyperbole, perhaps, but certainly not far from the mark.
Adam
--
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aw...@po.cwru.edu Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, OH USA School of Medicine
Deryk Barker
: > Cleveland Orchestra under Szell-greatest of the 20th century-
: Now there's a sentiment that's close to my heart! A bit of intentional
: hyperbole, perhaps, but certainly not far from the mark.
The most electrifying Eroica is Furtwaengler's 1944 VPO (Music & Arts,
Bayer da Capo).
Or you could take a look at:
http://www.camosun.bc.ca/~dbarker/beethoven.html
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ED Romans
symphonies from the sixties. They sound superb in Sony's Royal Edition
and that's saying something compared to the awful sound on the original
LP's. As perfomances they're pretty impressive too.
loui...@gmail.com
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilfred
loui...@gmail.com
gggg...@gmail.com
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilfred
http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics3/eroica.html
http://www.classicalnotes.net/classics/fifth.html
gggg...@gmail.com
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilfred
http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-393-07644-8
Joe
Joe Markley
Plantsville, Connecticut
Russ (not Martha)
Amazon shows two separate boxes of all the nine symphonies with Steinberg/Pitts. One of 'em is dubbed from LPs, the other I don't know about.
Open-reel sourced CDs of #3 and 5 have been available on private labels.
Russ (not Martha)
stanpu...@gmail.com
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilfred
Stan Punzel
Bob Harper
Wand 'live':
https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphony-E-Flat-Leonore-Overture/dp/B003P93HJY/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1481591690&sr=1-9&keywords=gunter+wand+beethoven
And floating around on the Internet somewhere is a live Eroica from 1994
with the Munich Phil that is stupendous, maybe the best I've ever heard.
(5th)
Harnoncourt, COE, Graz 6/24/07
Absolutely electric. Not sure where it can be found, but if you do, hear it!
Bob Harper
Yoshiyuki Mukudai יוֹשִׁיּוּכִּיִ
Sergiu Celibidache/Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchestra live from 1970s or '80s (METEOR)
Wilhelm Furtwängler/Die Wiener Philharmoniker December 19/20, 1944 live (TAHRA)
5th
Carlos Kleiber/Chicago Symphony Orchestra 1978 live WFMT broadcast
(Rosenthal Archives of the CSO)
Wilhelm Furtwängler/Die Berliner Philharmoniker 1938 HMV
YM
Al Eisner
retired?
--
Al Eisner
gggg...@gmail.com
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilfred
https://www.theguardian.com/music/tomserviceblog/2014/aug/05/symphony-guide-beethovens-third-eroica-tom-service
Frank Berger
>> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
>> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>>
>> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Wilfred
>
>
12 years late!
mswd...@gmail.com
mswd...@gmail.com
> Here's another case where ggg's necromancy works out fine: an Antonini Choral? I'm interested. Does anyone know if it will get a CD release? I just found the Triple Concerto, and it doesn't appear to have been released on physical media. Where is the best place to get it on FLAC?
https://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/classical/products/8075683--beethoven-triple-concerto
Still curious about Beethoven 9.
Neil
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
>
> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wilfred
bill...@gmail.com
wkasimer
> I just found the Triple Concerto, and it doesn't appear to have been released on physical media.
https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Triple-Concerto-Sol-Gabetta/dp/B00HQ6DGJI
Terrific performance, along with first-class performances of the Egmont and Coriolanus overtures.
richard...@gmail.com
> OK, a very old thread. But I happened to come across it and I was surprised that nobody mentioned Barbirolli's amazing recording of the Eroica, conducting the BBC SO. I have the Angel LP, but it's currently available on CD from Warner Classics.
897...@district65.net
> > I just found the Triple Concerto, and it doesn't appear to have been released on physical media.
>
> Sure it was:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Triple-Concerto-Sol-Gabetta/dp/B00HQ6DGJI
>
> Terrific performance, along with first-class performances of the Egmont and Coriolanus overtures.
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wkasimer
> Well, silly me for searching for Antonini. That will land you the digital files, and they are not linked to the CD.
mswd...@gmail.com
> OK, a very old thread. But I happened to come across it and I was surprised that nobody mentioned Barbirolli's amazing recording of the Eroica, conducting the BBC SO. I have the Angel LP, but it's currently available on CD from Warner Classics.
Frank Berger
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> >> OK, a very old thread. But I happened to come across it and I was surprised that nobody mentioned Barbirolli's amazing recording of the Eroica, conducting the BBC SO. I have the Angel LP, but it's currently available on CD from Warner Classics.
> >
> > Reference will release a Honeck Eroica later this month.
> >
>
> Ooh, Ooh.
Mark
Frank Berger
years. As for me, I do have the Concertgebouw E. Kleiber recordings and
coincidentally just today ordered a 5th and 6th by him with the Cologne
RSO from Berkshire.
Gerard
> > OK, a very old thread. But I happened to come across it and I was surprised that nobody mentioned Barbirolli's amazing recording of the Eroica, conducting the BBC SO. I have the Angel LP, but it's currently available on CD from Warner Classics.
>
> Reference will release a Honeck Eroica later this month.
https://www.hraudio.net/showmusic.php?title=13219#reviews
gggg gggg
Repertoire: The BEST and WORST Beethoven "Eroica" Symphony
gggg gggg
> I have purchased a few recordings of Beethoven's Symphony 3 & 5. But I still do not find satisfactory.
> Can anyone make a suggestion to me?
> Recommendations other than Karajan will be highly appreciated.
> Regards,
> Wilfred
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