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Sviatioslav Richter's Hammerklavier Sonata recordings
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Théo Amon
Aug 10, 2018, 1:05:09 PM8/10/18
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Hi everyone:
could someone list and, if possible, rank Sviatoslav Richter's extant live recordings of Beethoven's op. 106? All I found on Naxos Music Library is a 1976 London version, but I reckon there are others around.
If there's info on the sonic quality of them, that'd be great too (some of those bootlegs from behind the Iron Curtain are almost unbearable...).
Thanks
could someone list and, if possible, rank Sviatoslav Richter's extant live recordings of Beethoven's op. 106? All I found on Naxos Music Library is a 1976 London version, but I reckon there are others around.
If there's info on the sonic quality of them, that'd be great too (some of those bootlegs from behind the Iron Curtain are almost unbearable...).
Thanks
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smo...@hotmail.com
Aug 10, 2018, 2:24:32 PM8/10/18
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I have all three recordings.
Richter only performed this sonata 22 times, starting in April 1974. Last performance was sometime before 1980. So there is not much difference between the performances.
Soundwise I prefer Praga - I like Stradivarius least. However, I think this was also issued as a BBC recording on Ica - it is not in Geffens discography - except, according to an amazon reviewer, it has different finales (Richter played the finale a second time as an encore). The sound might be better. The BBC Aldeburgh recording is okay.
I agree Richter changed over time - but I appreciate recordings from his entire career (career is not the right word, I know).
Soeren
Richter only performed this sonata 22 times, starting in April 1974. Last performance was sometime before 1980. So there is not much difference between the performances.
Soundwise I prefer Praga - I like Stradivarius least. However, I think this was also issued as a BBC recording on Ica - it is not in Geffens discography - except, according to an amazon reviewer, it has different finales (Richter played the finale a second time as an encore). The sound might be better. The BBC Aldeburgh recording is okay.
I agree Richter changed over time - but I appreciate recordings from his entire career (career is not the right word, I know).
Soeren
Al Eisner
Aug 16, 2018, 5:11:51 PM8/16/18
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2018, dk wrote:
> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:08:38 AM UTC-7, dk wrote:
>> http://trovar.com/str/discs/beeth.html
>
> Note that there appear to be only 3 live
> recordings, all dating from June 1975. I
> have the Praga and BBC Legends recordings.
>
> Frankly there isn't that much difference
> to prefer one over the other, especially
> since I do not like the interpretation.
>
> If you like Richter's view of the music
> you will probably enjoy both equally. I
> just don't. Sometime around 1970 Richter
> turned into a more boring pianist than
> he was before.
>
> dk
The discography at Doremi additionally lists 4 privately-transfered
performances, all also from 1975. The London performance on Stradivarius
is on youtube, including an encore of the final movement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kai6Uff82iM
(No, I haven't listened.)
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Al Eisner
> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:08:38 AM UTC-7, dk wrote:
>
> Note that there appear to be only 3 live
> recordings, all dating from June 1975. I
> have the Praga and BBC Legends recordings.
>
> Frankly there isn't that much difference
> to prefer one over the other, especially
> since I do not like the interpretation.
>
> If you like Richter's view of the music
> you will probably enjoy both equally. I
> just don't. Sometime around 1970 Richter
> turned into a more boring pianist than
> he was before.
>
> dk
The discography at Doremi additionally lists 4 privately-transfered
performances, all also from 1975. The London performance on Stradivarius
is on youtube, including an encore of the final movement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kai6Uff82iM
(No, I haven't listened.)
--
Al Eisner
linde...@gmail.com
Aug 16, 2018, 8:37:03 PM8/16/18
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On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 1:14:42 PM UTC-4, dk wrote:
> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:08:38 AM UTC-7, dk wrote:
> > On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:05:09 AM UTC-7, Théo Amon wrote:
> On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:08:38 AM UTC-7, dk wrote:
> > On Friday, August 10, 2018 at 10:05:09 AM UTC-7, Théo Amon wrote:
> > http://trovar.com/str/discs/beeth.html
>
> Note that there appear to be only 3 live
> recordings, all dating from June 1975. I
> have the Praga and BBC Legends recordings.
>
> Frankly there isn't that much difference
> to prefer one over the other, especially
> since I do not like the interpretation.
>
> If you like Richter's view of the music
> you will probably enjoy both equally. I
> just don't. Sometime around 1970 Richter
> turned into a more boring pianist than
> he was before.
>
> dk
Hi,
>
> Note that there appear to be only 3 live
> recordings, all dating from June 1975. I
> have the Praga and BBC Legends recordings.
>
> Frankly there isn't that much difference
> to prefer one over the other, especially
> since I do not like the interpretation.
>
> If you like Richter's view of the music
> you will probably enjoy both equally. I
> just don't. Sometime around 1970 Richter
> turned into a more boring pianist than
> he was before.
>
> dk
The London performance of 18 June 1975 is on the ica label in stereo, in harsh, clangy sound, and unpersuasive playing. I will go with Evgeny Kissin's May 2018 N.Y.C. live performance, thank you.
Mort Linder
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linde...@gmail.com
Aug 18, 2018, 3:29:56 PM8/18/18
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linde...@gmail.com
Aug 18, 2018, 3:31:14 PM8/18/18
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On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 3:35:29 AM UTC-4, dk wrote:
>
> dk
What does the foreign spelling of lemonade have to do with the subject at hand? Please enlighten me.
Mort Linder
> > The London performance of 18 June 1975 is
> > on the ica label in stereo, in harsh, clangy
> > sound, and unpersuasive playing. I will go
> > with Evgeny Kissin's May 2018 N.Y.C. live
> > performance, thank you.
>
> Limonade rules! No exception! ;-)
> > on the ica label in stereo, in harsh, clangy
> > sound, and unpersuasive playing. I will go
> > with Evgeny Kissin's May 2018 N.Y.C. live
> > performance, thank you.
>
>
> dk
What does the foreign spelling of lemonade have to do with the subject at hand? Please enlighten me.
Mort Linder
Herman
Aug 18, 2018, 3:51:25 PM8/18/18
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On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 9:31:14 PM UTC+2, linde...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> What does the foreign spelling of lemonade have to do with the subject at hand? Please enlighten me.
>
> Mort Linder
He's referring to his current idol, HJLIm.
>
> What does the foreign spelling of lemonade have to do with the subject at hand? Please enlighten me.
>
> Mort Linder
linde...@gmail.com
Aug 18, 2018, 4:29:39 PM8/18/18
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LOL = lots of love
LOL = laughing out loud
Mort Linder
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Doremi Fasolla
Jan 17, 2021, 3:56:58 PM1/17/21
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Le dimanche 17 janvier 2021 à 21:07:50 UTC+1, Doremi Fasolla a écrit :
Talking about pirate recordings (in another conversation) there are some "pirate" recodings of this Beethoven OP 106....including the one in Belgium on 8th june (1975).Should they be discarded owing to COPYRIGHTS???SIlly idea to me.They remained pirate becauseRichter was either not aware of their existence or simply disaggreed to their editing due to his own unapproval.
G.M
G.M
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