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RCA - 33CD box - Gunther Wand "Live Recordings" - Release date 05/10/2012 (Japan)

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Randy Lane

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May 1, 2012, 5:22:37 PM5/1/12
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A new 33 CD box of Gunther Wand "Live Recordings" compiled by Sony/RCA
Korea becomes available at most Japanese classical sites on May 10
2012. A few links:

http://tower.jp/item/3095653/Gunter-Wand-Live

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/5040197

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B007WYU3HM

Are there any Wand completists out there who care tell us how much of
this is previously issued, readily availalbe, not available, etc?

Track Listing from Tower:

DISC 1
Brahms, Johannes: Symphony No.1 in c Op.68 Symphony Orchestra Chicago
Recording: 1989.1, Chicago, Orchestra Hall

DISC 2
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.3 in d (Version 1,889) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1992.1.12-14, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 3
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.4 in E-Flat "Die Romantische" NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1990.6.17-19, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 4
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.6 in A (Original Version 1879-1881) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1995.5.15, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 5
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.7 in E (Original Version 1881-83) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording : 1992.3.15-17, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 6-7
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.8 in c (Haas Edition) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1993.12.5-7, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 8
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No in .9 d (Original Version) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1993.3.7-9, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 9
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.1 in C Op.21 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1997.12.7-9, Hamburg , Musikhalle
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.2 in D Op.36 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1999.2.21-23, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 10
Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus: Serenade in D K.320 "Posthorn"
Beethoven, Ludwig van : Symphony No.4 in B-Flat Op.60 NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 2001.4.8-10, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 11
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Leonore Overture No.3 Op.72B- NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1990.6.17 -19, Hamburg, Musikhalle
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.3 in E-Flat Op.55 "Eroica" NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1989.12.10-12, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 12
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.6 in F Op.68 "Pastorale"
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.5 in c Op.67 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1992.10.11-13, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 13
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.3 in D D. two hundred NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1992.11.29-12.1, Hamburg, Musikhalle
Schumann, Robert: Symphony No.3 in E-Flat Op.97 "Rheinische" NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1991.9.15-17, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 14
Schumann , Robert: Symphony No.4 Op.120 in d NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1990.9.30-10.2, Hamburg, Musikhalle
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.8 in b D.759 "Unfinished" NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1991.4.21 -23, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 15
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.9 in C D.944 "The Great" NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1991.4.21-23, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 16
Brahms, Johannes: Symphony No.1 in c Op.68 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1996.4.21-23, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 17
Brahms, Johannes: Symphony No.2 in D Op.73 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1996.7.9-11, Hamburg, Musikhalle
Brahms, Johannes: Symphony No.3 in F Op.90 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1995.4.9-11, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 18 Brahms, Johannes: Symphony No.4 Op.98 in e NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1997.12.7-9, Hamburg , Musikhalle

DISC 19 -20
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.5 in B-Flat (Original Version 1875-78)
NDR-Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1989.10.8-10, Hamburg, Musikhalle
DISC 20
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.6 in A NDR -Sinfonieorchester Recording:
1988.12.4 / 5, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 21-22
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.8 in c (Haas Edition) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1987.8.22-23, Luebecker, Dom

DISC 23
Bruckner, Anton : Symphony No.9 in d NDR-Sinfonieorchester Recording:
1988.6.24-26, Luebecker, Dom twenty-four

DISC 25
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.8 in b D.759 "Unfinished"
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.9 in C D.944 "The Great" Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 1995.3.28/29, Berlin, Philharmonie

DISC 26
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.4 in E-Flat "Die Romantische" Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 1998.1.30-2.1, Berlin , Philharmonie

DISC 27
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.5 in B-Flat (Original Version 1875-78)
Berliner Philharmoniker Recording: 1996.1.12-14, Berlin, Philharmonie

DISC 28
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.7 in E (Original 1881-83 version)
Berliner Philharmoniker Recording: 1999.11.19-21, Berlin,
Philharmonie

DISC 29-30
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.8 in c (Original Version) Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 2001.1.19-22, Berlin, Philharmonie

DISC 31
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.9 in d (Original Version) Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 1998.9.18/20, Berlin, Philharmonie

DISC 32-33
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.4 in E-Flat "Romantische Die" (Version
1878-1880; Nowak Edition)
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.5 in B-Flat D.485 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 2001.10.28-30, Hamburg, Musikhalle




Randy Lane

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May 1, 2012, 7:35:58 PM5/1/12
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I've traced a few to prior issues and placed Amazon links after them.
The Berlin Bruckner items are the previous issues many of us know
well.
There's a lot of duplication of repertoire here, and some recordings I
already own. But for about $120 USD plus shipping, this might be a
worthwhile buy.

DISC 1
Brahms, Johannes: Symphony No.1 in c Op.68 Symphony Orchestra Chicago
Recording: 1989.1, Chicago, Orchestra Hall


DISC 2
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.3 in d (Version 1,889) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1992.1.12-14, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000003FCD

DISC 3
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.4 in E-Flat "Die Romantische" NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1990.6.17-19, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00000E6N0

DISC 4
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.6 in A (Original Version 1879-1881) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1995.5.15, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000003G1N

DISC 5
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.7 in E (Original Version 1881-83) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording : 1992.3.15-17, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00000E6PD

DISC 6-7
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.8 in c (Haas Edition) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1993.12.5-7, Hamburg, Musikhalle

DISC 8
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No in .9 d (Original Version) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1993.3.7-9, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000003FQ2

DISC 9
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.1 in C Op.21 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1997.12.7-9, Hamburg , Musikhalle
Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.2 in D Op.36 NDR-Sinfonieorchester
Recording: 1999.2.21-23, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004NHID

DISC 10
Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus: Serenade in D K.320 "Posthorn"
Beethoven, Ludwig van : Symphony No.4 in B-Flat Op.60 NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 2001.4.8-10, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005U8U1
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.6 in A NDR -Sinfonieorchester Recording:
1988.12.4 / 5, Hamburg, Musikhalle


DISC 21-22
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.8 in c (Haas Edition) NDR-
Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1987.8.22-23, Luebecker, Dom


DISC 23
Bruckner, Anton : Symphony No.9 in d NDR-Sinfonieorchester Recording:
1988.6.24-26, Luebecker, Dom twenty-four



DISC 25
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.8 in b D.759 "Unfinished"
Schubert, Franz: Symphony No.9 in C D.944 "The Great" Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 1995.3.28/29, Berlin, Philharmonie

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000003FYT

DISC 26
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.4 in E-Flat "Die Romantische" Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 1998.1.30-2.1, Berlin , Philharmonie

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000247D1

DISC 27
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.5 in B-Flat (Original Version 1875-78)
Berliner Philharmoniker Recording: 1996.1.12-14, Berlin, Philharmonie

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000003G38

DISC 28
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.7 in E (Original 1881-83 version)
Berliner Philharmoniker Recording: 1999.11.19-21, Berlin,
Philharmonie

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YMJ0

DISC 29-30
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.8 in c (Original Version) Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 2001.1.19-22, Berlin, Philharmonie

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005Q66Y

DISC 31
Bruckner, Anton: Symphony No.9 in d (Original Version) Berliner
Philharmoniker Recording: 1998.9.18/20, Berlin, Philharmonie

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00002DF4E

Bob Harper

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May 1, 2012, 9:06:52 PM5/1/12
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Everything's been issued previously. What's available now I'm not sure.
One surprise is that the Bruckner 9 from Japan (arguably the finest of
the bunch) is *not* included. Also missing OTTOMH are the discs of
Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, Mussorgsky/Ravel, and Debussy, all live as I
recall.

Bob Harper

Randy Lane

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May 16, 2012, 1:12:53 PM5/16/12
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Thanks Bob.
I decided to go ahead and buy this set today. I own none of these
except the Berlin Bruckners, so makes a nice addition.
I also ordered from there (Tower Japan) two other releases with live
recordings of Wand and the Bruckner 9th:

One is this : http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/308896 (I paid a
lot less than the HMV asking price) (I think this is the one you refer
to)

And this one : http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4203672 (recent
release 2011)

Randy Lane

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> One is this :http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/308896(I paid a
> lot less than the HMV asking price) (I think this is the one you refer
> to)
>
> And this one :http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4203672(recent
> release 2011)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Correction - the NHK is the Bruckner 8th, not the 9th. So I am quite
certain the NDR live recordings is the Bruckner 9th you say
outstanding.

HaydnHouse.com

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May 16, 2012, 1:29:21 PM5/16/12
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If anything, buy this set for discs 21, 22, and 23! Thsi is must have
Bruckner from Wand. Imsho, The acoustic of the Lubeck Dom match, what
could be, the cosmic reality view of Bruckner.......Just a thought.

Pierre
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Bob Harper

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May 16, 2012, 1:58:26 PM5/16/12
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On May 16, 10:12 am, Randy Lane <randy.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One is this :http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/308896(I paid a
> lot less than the HMV asking price) (I think this is the one you refer
> to)
>
This is the one to which I referred, though I have the CD, not the
DVD.

> And this one :http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4203672(recent
> release 2011)- Hide quoted text -

Not familiar with this one.

Bob Harper

Randy Lane

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May 16, 2012, 2:07:05 PM5/16/12
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>>>**************************************************************
(Ipaid a lot less than the HMV asking price) (I think this is the one
you refer
to)

This is the one to which I referred, though I have the CD, not the
DVD.

And this one :http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4203672(recent
release 2011)- Hide quoted text -

Not familiar with this one.

Bob Harper
>>>**************************************************************

What I ordered from Tower Japan is the CD also. I couldn't find the CD
on the HMV site.
CD catalog # is BVCC-34039

J.Martin

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May 17, 2012, 11:53:36 AM5/17/12
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On May 1, 4:35 pm, Randy Lane <randy.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've traced a few to prior issues and placed Amazon links after them.
> The Berlin Bruckner items are the previous issues many of us know
> well.
> There's a lot of duplication of repertoire here, and some recordings I
> already own. But for about $120 USD plus shipping, this might be a
> worthwhile buy.

I believe you could add this to your list of previous issues. A great
performance btw:

>
>
> DISC 11
> Beethoven, Ludwig van: Leonore Overture No.3 Op.72B- NDR-
> Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1990.6.17 -19, Hamburg, Musikhalle
> Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.3 in E-Flat Op.55 "Eroica" NDR-
> Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1989.12.10-12, Hamburg, Musikhalle

http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphony-Eroica-Leonore-Overture/dp/B000003F42/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1337269790&sr=8-2


This whole reminds me of an April Fool's Day joke they did on
classicstoday years ago, where they reviewed a box set of Wand's many
performances of Bruckner 8. Still, if I had the shelf space and the
dough, I'd love to have this.

Randy Lane

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May 17, 2012, 12:42:46 PM5/17/12
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On May 17, 8:53 am, "J.Martin" <mistalu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 4:35 pm, Randy Lane <randy.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've traced a few to prior issues and placed Amazon links after them.
> > The Berlin Bruckner items are the previous issues many of us know
> > well.
> > There's a lot of duplication of repertoire here, and some recordings I
> > already own. But for about $120 USD plus shipping, this might be a
> > worthwhile buy.
>
> I believe you could add this to your list of previous issues.  A great
> performance btw:
>
>
>
> > DISC 11
> > Beethoven, Ludwig van: Leonore Overture No.3 Op.72B- NDR-
> > Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1990.6.17 -19, Hamburg, Musikhalle
> > Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.3 in E-Flat Op.55 "Eroica" NDR-
> > Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1989.12.10-12, Hamburg, Musikhalle
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphony-Eroica-Leonore-Overture/dp/B...
>
> This whole reminds me of an April Fool's Day joke they did on
> classicstoday years ago, where they reviewed a box set of Wand's many
> performances of Bruckner 8.  Still, if I had the shelf space and the
> dough, I'd love to have this.

Know what you mean.
I mapped out all of the Wand Bruckner recordings I'll have now.
Includes 6 recordings of #9 and 5 of # 8.
But, except they be somewhat cheap and compact (i.e., not in
individual jewel cases), I wouldn't have nearly that many.
Same goes for the upteen Beethoven and Bruckner recordings I have with
Furtw132ngler - in some cases the same performance multiple times with
differeing digitial enhancement (or defilement).

Bob Harper

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May 17, 2012, 3:11:03 PM5/17/12
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On May 17, 8:53 am, "J.Martin" <mistalu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 4:35 pm, Randy Lane <randy.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've traced a few to prior issues and placed Amazon links after them.
> > The Berlin Bruckner items are the previous issues many of us know
> > well.
> > There's a lot of duplication of repertoire here, and some recordings I
> > already own. But for about $120 USD plus shipping, this might be a
> > worthwhile buy.
>
> I believe you could add this to your list of previous issues.  A great
> performance btw:
>
>
>
> > DISC 11
> > Beethoven, Ludwig van: Leonore Overture No.3 Op.72B- NDR-
> > Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1990.6.17 -19, Hamburg, Musikhalle
> > Beethoven, Ludwig van: Symphony No.3 in E-Flat Op.55 "Eroica" NDR-
> > Sinfonieorchester Recording: 1989.12.10-12, Hamburg, Musikhalle
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphony-Eroica-Leonore-Overture/dp/B...

Indeed it is, of both works. I've always found this one of the most
exciting performances of Leonore #3 I've ever heard, and the Eroica's
just that much better than the one in the set of the Nine.
>
> This whole reminds me of an April Fool's Day joke they did on
> classicstoday years ago, where they reviewed a box set of Wand's many
> performances of Bruckner 8.  Still, if I had the shelf space and the
> dough, I'd love to have this.

I thought it was a purported box of 9 9ths. I'll bet between issued
recordings and downloads of other live performances one could get that
many :)

Bob Harper

Randy Lane

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May 17, 2012, 4:32:23 PM5/17/12
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I know there's one I've yet to acquire.
I always thought this one

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=103889

was in this box:

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=309847

Then I looked closer and realized it aint true.

nai...@gmail.com

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Aug 9, 2012, 7:22:46 PM8/9/12
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I was told there were two versions of this 33CD set: One is the Korean version, another one is EU(Germany) version. Any comments/reviews on these two versions?
Also, anyone knows the UPC for the EU version?

randy...@gmail.com

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On Thursday, August 9, 2012 4:22:46 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
> I was told there were two versions of this 33CD set: One is the Korean version, another one is EU(Germany) version. Any comments/reviews on these two versions?
>
> Also, anyone knows the UPC for the EU version?

I have never seen any version other than the Korean version.
Nor have I have never seen any evidence that even suggests there is any other version than the Korean version.

Of all of the Classical boxes produced by the Korean organization that produced this Wand set, the only sets I've ever seen in an EU (or International) version wer the Karajan 1960s box and the Mercury Living Presence set.

My suspicion is that the International/EU versions only get produced when there is evidence of high demand after the Korean version gets issued. I think the Koreans produce these sets independently and the rest of the record-producing world watches with great interest to see if there's any profit to be made by extending the market.
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