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Samir Golescu

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Aug 11, 2003, 4:22:25 PM8/11/03
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. . . only among the CDs listed at Berkshire, please:

http://tinyurl.com/jotr

One "dead" conductor I've neglected (only have heard some French music LPs
a dozen of years ago) and would like to sample better.

regards,
SG

David Hurwitz

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Aug 11, 2003, 5:16:14 PM8/11/03
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In article <Pine.GSO.4.31.03081...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>, Samir
Golescu says...

Most of that stuff is pirated material, which may not bother you as much as it
does me. The one disc I would recommend very enthusiastically is the first one
listed:

Ravel, Bolero; La Valse. Honegger, Pacific 231. Dukas, Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Chabrier, Espana. Debussy, La Mer. (L'Orchestre de la Suisse Romande/ Ansermet)

The Faure Requiem is also very good but sonically faded, but if you like the
work Decca has finally released his Pelleas et Melisande at mid-price and it's
really special.

Some other titles to look for:

Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition (with an organ tossed in at the end)
Magnard: Symphony No. 3
Stravinsky: Symphonies (in C, in Three Movements)
Any Debussy or Ravel

In any case, if the above disc turns you on, then there's plenty of other stuff,
though I would be far more selective than some others in this group because the
quality of the the orchestra varied wildly over the years.

In general, if you like, say, van Beinum, you'll find much that's similar in
Ansermet.

Dave Hurwitz

David Hurwitz

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Aug 11, 2003, 5:52:31 PM8/11/03
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>In general, if you like, say, van Beinum, you'll find much that's similar in
>Ansermet.
>
>Dave Hurwitz
>

A few more items I thought of:

Honegger: Symphonies 2-4 plus King David
Rimsky-Korsakov: Opera suites, plus a terrific Russian Easter Overture
Falla: Three-Cornered Hat (stereo version)

It's interesting looking this over--I have just about everything Ansermet did
(and dearly wish his Pizzetti disc had been issued on CD--that's a collector's
item), and though the orchestra was often pretty second rate, and he's seldom a
first choice for most repertoire, even French stuff, he's one of those
conductors who is almost always so enjoyable anyway that you don't want to
"decollect" him. There's something very musical and sane about his work that I
find very appealing.

Dave Hurwitz

Paul Goldstein

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Aug 11, 2003, 6:18:43 PM8/11/03
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In article <70638751.0...@drn.newsguy.com>, David Hurwitz says...

Very well said. I would only add that the sound of most of Decca's Victoria
Hall recordings is extremely good, so the Ansermet recordings provide a great
deal of sheerly sonic pleasure as well.

Paul Goldstein

Ansermetniac

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Aug 11, 2003, 9:53:24 PM8/11/03
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David Hurwirtz referrred to the Ansermet performances as sane and musical. I
can think of no two better adjectives. Once again:

My Ansermet top 10

Notice that is mosly non French


Abbedd


No Piece My best source

1 Mozart Gran Partita Japanese CD

2 Haydn Symphony #90 LP unfortunately

3 Mozart Symphony #38 78 see culshaws book as
to why the lp is inadaquate

4 Fairy's Kiss CD

5 Tchaikovsky Symphony #6 Japanese CD

6 Haydn Symphony #84 CD

7 Prokofiev Symphony #5 CD

8 Sleeping Beauty Japanese CD

9 Schumann Symphony #1 Japanese CD

10 Beethoven Symphony #1 1956 Recording Open Reel

11 Sibelius 2 Japanese CD

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Raymond Hall

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Aug 12, 2003, 12:39:09 AM8/12/03
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| David Hurwirtz referrred to the Ansermet performances as sane and musical.
I
| can think of no two better adjectives. Once again:

I picked up Ansermet's Chausson symphony, coupled with Penelope and Peleas
et Melisande on an Eloquence recently, (also including the Dukas Sorcercer's
Apprentice), and what a great conductor was Ansermet on the evidence of this
CD.

So much passion (just list to Penelope by Fauré), combined with such a
classical approach, and I hadn't really expected it, having mostly known
Ansermet from his Ravel, and his Beethoven.

The sound is quite respectable too imo.

Regards,

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See You Tamara (Ozzy Osbourne)

Ray, Taree, NSW

Richard Schultz

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Aug 12, 2003, 12:58:33 AM8/12/03
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In article <70638751.0...@drn.newsguy.com>, David Hurwitz <David_...@newsguy.com> wrote:

: A few more items I thought of:

:
: Honegger: Symphonies 2-4 plus King David
: Rimsky-Korsakov: Opera suites, plus a terrific Russian Easter Overture
: Falla: Three-Cornered Hat (stereo version)

What do you think of his recording of Borodin's 2d symphony (et al.)?

-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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-- Wanda Landowska

Richard Bernas

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Aug 12, 2003, 5:18:12 AM8/12/03
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Samir Golescu <gol...@uiuc.edu> wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.31.03081...@ux7.cso.uiuc.edu>...

Danco's recording of Ravel Scheherezade is one of the best. I expect
that Dutton's transfer would be better than Lys' (I have it on
vinyl).

I haven't played Ansermet's recording of the Faure Requiem for many
years. The last time I did I heard some of the worst choral singing
ever preserved on disc. Unforgettable and IMO unforgivable.

Richard

Warren B. Hapke

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Aug 12, 2003, 2:40:09 PM8/12/03
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Richard Bernas <Richar...@aol.com> wrote:
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: Richard

I have to agree with Richard about the choral singing on Ansermet's
Faure Requiem; it is absolutely atrocious. In addition, I find that
Danco (a fine singer in other contexts) is somewhat strained in her solos.
Souzay is fine, but the disk is worth keeping only for orchestral music
on it, not for the Requiem.

(Aside to Samir: I'm in the Champaign-Urbana area and would be willing
to loan you this disk. Contact me via email if you're interested.)

Warren B. Hapke
wbh...@prairienet.org

Alan Watkins

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Aug 12, 2003, 6:48:55 PM8/12/03
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"Ansermetniac" <anserm...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<oMXZa.44930$_R5.14...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...

I would cheat and have a joint number one: it would be Beethoven 2 and
Russian Easter Festival Orchestra. Okay, I have limited knowledge of
recordings but they are the two best performances of both works I have
heard on a recording.

Kind regards,
Alan M. Watkins

notrump15-17

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Aug 12, 2003, 11:05:55 PM8/12/03
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Re Borodin b minor: Martinon. Re Falla: Reiner.
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gggg gggg

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Feb 1, 2022, 2:45:02 AM2/1/22
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(Recent Y. upload):

Ernest Ansermet Conducts Everything NOT French or Russian (Preview: Ansermet's 10 Best Recordings)

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Feb 1, 2022, 5:12:18 PM2/1/22
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Does anyone have a sense of how complete the three prior boxes were in covering the Ansermet discography? I never assumed they were complete, but never saw any info one way or the other.
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