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William Saens

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Dec 20, 2005, 6:27:09 PM12/20/05
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How do you pronounce "Takacs?"

Thanks,

William


Matthew B. Tepper

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Dec 20, 2005, 6:32:35 PM12/20/05
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> How do you pronounce "Takacs?"

Something like TOCK-kotch, I should think.

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arrau...@yahoo.com

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Dec 20, 2005, 6:32:50 PM12/20/05
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Tah-kah-tch

Vaneyes

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Dec 20, 2005, 7:57:22 PM12/20/05
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William Saens wrote:
> How do you pronounce "Takacs?"

This site will help you with Takacs and many many others (pdf)--

http://iowapublicradio.org/dictionary/

Regards

gerrie...@cox.net

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Dec 20, 2005, 9:06:23 PM12/20/05
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I checked your dictionary and it gives the second syllable ("kacs") as
an "sh" sound, as 'kahsh' (my phoenetic spelling) which is what I've
always understood how this name is pronounced.

GC

Matthew B. Tepper

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> Vaneyes wrote:
>> William Saens wrote:
>> > How do you pronounce "Takacs?"
>>
>> This site will help you with Takacs and many many others (pdf)--
>>
>> http://iowapublicradio.org/dictionary/
>

> I checked your dictionary and it gives the second syllable ("kacs") as
> an "sh" sound, as 'kahsh' (my phoenetic spelling) which is what I've
> always understood how this name is pronounced.

I was under the impression that Hungarian names (like those in Czech) are
always accented on the first syllable, despite the occurrence in some names
of things which look like accent marks on other syllables. (Jim Svejda,
who is of Czech descent himself and ought to know better, stresses the
second syllable of "Janacek," which makes me snort each time.)

Dana John Hill

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Dec 20, 2005, 9:46:00 PM12/20/05
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"Matthew B. Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> gerrie...@cox.net appears to have caused the following letters to be
> typed in news:1135130783.8...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Vaneyes wrote:
>>> William Saens wrote:
>>> > How do you pronounce "Takacs?"
>>>
>>> This site will help you with Takacs and many many others (pdf)--
>>>
>>> http://iowapublicradio.org/dictionary/
>>
>> I checked your dictionary and it gives the second syllable ("kacs") as
>> an "sh" sound, as 'kahsh' (my phoenetic spelling) which is what I've
>> always understood how this name is pronounced.
>
> I was under the impression that Hungarian names (like those in Czech) are
> always accented on the first syllable, despite the occurrence in some
> names
> of things which look like accent marks on other syllables. (Jim Svejda,
> who is of Czech descent himself and ought to know better, stresses the
> second syllable of "Janacek," which makes me snort each time.)
>


I had heard the same rule you describe, but a year or two ago I heard a
radio story about one of Janacek's operas, and they accented the second
syllable. No sooner had I thought about that rule than they announced that
they had gone to the trouble of contacting the Czech embassy to verify the
pronunciation.

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Dana John Hill
Gainesville, Florida
www.danajohnhill.org


Steve Emerson

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Dec 20, 2005, 9:51:51 PM12/20/05
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In article <Xns97329F1DCCB...@207.217.125.201>,

"Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "William Saens" <Wil...@WilliamSaens.com> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in news:Ro0qf.5404$RZ6.3119
> @bignews7.bellsouth.net:
>
> > How do you pronounce "Takacs?"
>
> Something like TOCK-kotch, I should think.

I always heard it was TAH-kosh. ? Same as what GC says.

SE.

arrau...@yahoo.com

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Dec 20, 2005, 9:56:34 PM12/20/05
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I'm not sure about the proper Hungarian pronunciation/emphasis, but I
just finished my undergraduate at U of Colorado where the Takacs is in
residence, everyone there (including at least one of the members,
although not a Hungarian) pronounces it "Tah-Katch" with the emphasis
on the first syllable. Until recently, half the quartet was British,
although there's now an American violist - I was a bit disappointed, as
I wanted to be able to re-phrase the old Budapest joke: "What do you
call four Englishmen grouped together on a stage? The Takacs Quartet!"

RJM

Larry Rinkel

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Dec 20, 2005, 10:28:09 PM12/20/05
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"Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> gerrie...@cox.net appears to have caused the following letters to be
> typed in news:1135130783.8...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Vaneyes wrote:
>>> William Saens wrote:
>>> > How do you pronounce "Takacs?"
>>>
>>> This site will help you with Takacs and many many others (pdf)--
>>>
>>> http://iowapublicradio.org/dictionary/
>>
>> I checked your dictionary and it gives the second syllable ("kacs") as
>> an "sh" sound, as 'kahsh' (my phoenetic spelling) which is what I've
>> always understood how this name is pronounced.
>
> I was under the impression that Hungarian names (like those in Czech) are
> always accented on the first syllable, despite the occurrence in some
> names
> of things which look like accent marks on other syllables. (Jim Svejda,
> who is of Czech descent himself and ought to know better, stresses the
> second syllable of "Janacek," which makes me snort each time.)

The proper spelling, however, is Takács, which suggests that the second
syllable may well get the emphásis.


Michael Schaffer

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Dec 20, 2005, 10:41:18 PM12/20/05
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In Hungarian, this accent does not mark emphasis. It marks the vowel as
open and a little longer. Hungarian names are indeed always sressed on
the first syllable, just like Finnish, a distantly related language
from the same family (Finno-Ugrian, if that is the correct term in
English).
So it's not "bar-TOK" like many think, it's "BAR-tohk". Cs is like
English ch in "chain".
"TA-kahch".

Terry Simmons

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Dec 20, 2005, 11:59:54 PM12/20/05
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In article <Ro0qf.5404$RZ6....@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
"William Saens" <Wil...@WilliamSaens.com> wrote:

Tuck ush. (Accent on first syllable.)

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Cheers!

Terry

Richard Schultz

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Dec 21, 2005, 12:54:10 AM12/21/05
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In article <Xns97329F1DCCB...@207.217.125.201>, "Matthew?B.?Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
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:> How do you pronounce "Takacs?"
:
: Something like TOCK-kotch, I should think.

Surely you are not unaware that while it's *spelled* "Takacs," it's
*pronounced* "Throatwobbler Mangrove."

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Sacqueboutier

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Dec 21, 2005, 7:10:54 AM12/21/05
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On 2005-12-21 00:54:10 -0500, sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) said:

> In article <Xns97329F1DCCB...@207.217.125.201>,
> "Matthew?B.?Tepper" <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
> : "William Saens" <Wil...@WilliamSaens.com> appears to have caused the
> : following letters to be typed in news:Ro0qf.5404$RZ6.3119
> : @bignews7.bellsouth.net:
> : :> How do you pronounce "Takacs?"
> : : Something like TOCK-kotch, I should think.
>
> Surely you are not unaware that while it's *spelled* "Takacs," it's
> *pronounced* "Throatwobbler Mangrove."


OK, I'll bite.

"I thought it was pronounced Raymond-Luxury-Yacht".


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Paul Ilechko

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Dec 21, 2005, 8:50:19 AM12/21/05
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Matthew B. Tepper wrote:

> I was under the impression that Hungarian names (like those in Czech) are
> always accented on the first syllable, despite the occurrence in some names
> of things which look like accent marks on other syllables.

But Hungarian is nothing like Czech, or indeed like any other Eastern
European language. It is most closely related to Finnish.

shal...@hfhs.org

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Dec 21, 2005, 10:31:07 AM12/21/05
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I immediately checked the site only to find that I still can't find out
whether the piece by Sibelius is pronounced Oh-sha-ny-deez or
Oh-shee-anna-deez...

Andrew Osyany

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Dec 21, 2005, 2:10:17 PM12/21/05
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Michael Schaffer seems the closest...

As a Hungarian, the best approximation in English for me is:

TUH-kaatsch

TUH instead of TAH to approximate the low vowel in Hungarian "a" - which
is the reportedly most difficult one for foreign-born speakers.

Andrew Osyany

sechumlib

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Dec 21, 2005, 7:40:38 PM12/21/05
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arrau...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Tah-kah-tch
f


> William Saens wrote:
>
>>How do you pronounce "Takacs?"

Except that several years ago, when I was living in a town that had a
VERY stupid councilman of that name, I would pronounce it "Tack-ass".

Larry Friedman

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Dec 22, 2005, 11:04:56 AM12/22/05
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Thank you, Mr Osyany! That was a long trip through a lot of conjecture. One
thing I have learned about languages other than my own: DO NOT GUESS! Any
Hungarian will pronounce the name of the group just as Andrew says:
"TUH-kaatsch" (with the a's pronounced differently from each other), but I'm
afraid that many Americans are pronouncing the a's alike, making it
"TAH-kaatsch". That is their mistake, but it is becoming standard.

It is similar to pronouncing "Khachaturian". Is it "cat-chuh-TOO-ree-un" or
"khat-cha-too-ree-AN". It depends how closely one wishes to cling to native
pronunciation. The question is whether it is better to be "accurate" or
understood. 'Tis a difficult and and highly moot question, that is.
-Larry

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Larry Rinkel

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"Larry Friedman" <dis...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> It is similar to pronouncing "Khachaturian". Is it "cat-chuh-TOO-ree-un"
> or "khat-cha-too-ree-AN".

So which is it?


Dan Koren

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Dec 22, 2005, 6:34:22 PM12/22/05
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"William Saens" <Wil...@WilliamSaens.com> wrote in message
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>
> How do you pronounce "Takacs?"
>

Carefully, so one doesn't
swallow the paprika.


dk


Matthew B. Tepper

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Depends on whether you're in Glendale; if you are, it's the latter.

Anna Mosler

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Dec 26, 2005, 3:34:56 AM12/26/05
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William Saens wrote:

> How do you pronounce "Takacs?"

Listen:
http://tinyurl.com/8e25x

Anna

Michael Schaffer

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Dec 26, 2005, 4:08:42 AM12/26/05
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At 0:24.

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