Haydn Sturm und Drang Symphonies - Pinnock or Bruggen?
Bruce Pedlar
Both Pinnock and Bruggen have sets of the Haydn Sturm und Drang
Symphonies at Amazon for comparable prices. I was wondering which of
these sets would be better to go with.
I am also looking for opinions on Bruggen's set of Paris and London
symphonies by Haydn as compared to Bernstein's sets.
Bruce
Paul Goldstein
>Symphonies at Amazon for comparable prices. I was wondering which of
>these sets would be better to go with.
There is no contest IMO - go with Brueggen.
Paul Goldstein
Simon Roberts
: Hi,
: Both Pinnock and Bruggen have sets of the Haydn Sturm und Drang
: Symphonies at Amazon for comparable prices. I was wondering which of
: these sets would be better to go with.
There are one or two movements where I prefer Pinnock (e.g. in the finale
of 52 of all the performances of this piece I've heard, only Pinnock gives
the high horns due prominence), but overall I find Brueggen more
interesting. I'm surprised that they're the same price: Pinnock's set
should be a budget priced slimline box, Brueggen's more-or-less full
price.
: I am also looking for opinions on Bruggen's set of Paris and London
: symphonies by Haydn as compared to Bernstein's sets.
They don't have much in common (though Brueggen's rubato in the trio of
86/iii isn't far from Bernstein's; both offer more than anyone else, to
wonderful effect). In the Paris symphonies, they nicely complement each
other - overall each is the best of its type (large scale modern vs medium
scale HIP), though in terms of sheer sonority I prefer Goodman's 82. In
the London set Bernstein's more inconsistent, ranging from the same sort
of vigorous, incisive style he serves up in the Paris set to a style that
verges on the galumphing and square. Brueggen is more consistent, but
still uneven, though at his best (e.g. 104) no HIPsters are better.
Simon
Rick Cavalla
>Both Pinnock and Bruggen have sets of the Haydn Sturm und Drang
>Symphonies at Amazon for comparable prices. I was wondering which of
>these sets would be better to go with.
Bruggen. I find him more exciting and more interesting, with some *amazing*
horn playing (plus he does not use continuo, which I do not like in Haydn
symphonies).
>I am also looking for opinions on Bruggen's set of Paris and London
>symphonies by Haydn as compared to Bernstein's sets.
I have only heard Bernstein in the Paris symphonies. For those, Bruggen is
very different from Bernstein, not just in the period instruments, but in
the interpretations. Bernstein is more driven, more violin-dominated, and
arguably more exciting. Bruggen is a little more relaxed, pays close
attention to the bass line and wind instruments, and is funnier (well, both
are funny, but I find Bruggen "witty" to Bernstein's "earthy", if that makes
any sense). I would give the edge to Bruggen, largely because he has the
superior oboes and horns, but also because I find him more thoughtful and
interesting.
Bruggen's Haydn is very consistent. If you like any of it, you will
probably like all of it (he has recorded the 19 Sturm & Drang symphonies
plus 82-104). Personally, I love it. If I had to give up all my Haydn
except for one conductor, I would keep Bruggen.
Rick Cavalla
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