Brendel or Schiff?
Josep Vilanova
Richter/Rostropovitch version, but only on vinyl and haven't really listened
to them much. I wanted to buy a modern recording of them and I was wondering
between the one by the Brendels and the one by Schiff/Perenyi. Has anyone
had the chance to compare them?
josep
Tom Deacon
"Josep Vilanova" <josepv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
If you liked the Rostropovich version you will not like the Brendel, which
is not musically aggressive at all. I haven't heard the new Perenyi version,
but it should be very fine, of course, even although the pianist is too coy
for my taste in Beethoven in general. Actually in most things.
But in my opinion you cannot really go wrong with Yo Yo Ma and Emmanuel Ax,
surely the best cello/piano duo ensemble in the past few decades.
For a more adventurous (that is to say, less standard) choice you might also
consider the Francois Frederic Guy/Anne Gastinel version on Naïve, which is
beautifully recorded and played.
And this without even considering for a moment the many classic performances
of these pieces by Fournier and Starker.
Where is Peter Schenkman when you really need him? Peter?
TD
Bob Lombard
I can tell you that the Schiff/Perenyi is very, very good.
bl
Josep Vilanova
>
> But in my opinion you cannot really go wrong with Yo Yo Ma and Emmanuel Ax,
> surely the best cello/piano duo ensemble in the past few decades.
I haven't seen a more over the top cover picture for a long time:
Hmmm...
josep
Simon Roberts
No (and, since I usually don't much like A. Brendel's Beethoven, I don't plan
to), though I was very pleasantly surprised by Schiff/Perenyi (not surprised by
Perenyi but by Schiff, who wakes up half way throught the first movement of the
first sonata and remains awake through to the end of the last). I'm curious,
though - why limit your range to just those two? There are more than a few
first rate recordings since R&R, from the all-round excellence of
Heidsieck/Tortelier on EMI and Guy/Gastinel on Naive, through the rather more
lyrical Canino/Vogler on Berlin Classics (perhaps the most tonally beautiful
cello playing to be found on any recording) to the more highly strung
Argerich/Maisky. It would be a shame to overlook those, I think.
Simon
Simon Roberts
By contrast, it would be hard to imagine performances less over the top than
theirs. They do make Op. 69 sound awfully pretty, though.
Simon
Tom Deacon
"Josep Vilanova" <josepv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What Sony would not do to sell CDs.
But of course this has little to do with the playing, which is terrific.
TD
A. Brain
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Hmm, I think it has been years since I heard these works.
I have a Seraphim LP set with Fournier and Schnabel
dating from the late '40s and in a series on Seraphim
called "Great Recordings of the Century". These
have apparently never made it to CD. But surely
the Rostropovich/Richter are on CD.
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Josep Vilanova
> What Sony would not do to sell CDs.
>
> But of course this has little to do with the playing, which is terrific.
>
> TD
>
him (Brahms quartets with piano) and I saw him live once, but for some
reason I never paid much attention to his career. But recently, in the BBC,
they did a Holocaust commemoration program and he played some Chopin
(mazurkas and waltzes). I was really impressed by his performance: very
sober but heartfelt, with very clear differentiation of registers, a very
strong rhythmic backbone. I ordered his Chopin piano concerto 1 with
Mackerras and I was wondering in maybe getting some more Chopin with him,
perhaps the cello sonata with Yo Yo Ma.
josep
xys...@hotmail.com
I was tempted to translate your title as "the cough or the sneeze?" but
I gave up (-:.
Schiff, comparatively speaking.
regards,
SG
Philip Peters
I love that picture and some of their other recordings have similar ones
IIRC. But the picture has exactly what the recording doesn't. These are
not very passionate recordings. And the musicians are badly matched: Ma
is too modest while Ax is too heavy and inflexible. The Brahms they did
with larger ensembles suffers less from this (even though they often
feature Isaac Stern ;-)
Philip
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Mr. Roberts:
<<since I usually don't much like A. Brendel's Beethoven>>
How do you DARE, I ASK???
Really now, I was having fun the other day listening to a Kempff album
in which the liner notes were absurdly and blatantly meant to promote .
. . Brendel, not Kempff. Almost every sentence started with "Brendel
says that Kempff this" and "Brendel says that Kempff that". Well, we've
seen "The world according to Garp". I'm looking forward to the upcoming
bestseller "Marmite according to Brendel".
regards,
SG
Philip Peters
The sonata nr.6 in D (op.102 no.2) did. I wish I knew where to find the
others. Kempff is no replacement for Schnabel and neither is Jean Fonda
with due respect for Fournier.
Philip
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from the later 40s.
Think Peter agrees with the above...
I don't find Yo Yo Ma very interesting... I think Peter feels the same
AB
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They did, in France, in a box with some other complete set, I think
Fournier's Bach Suites. There was also a pirate issue on the Strings
label; pirated because Sonatas ## 1 and 2 were never issued on 78s, and
were pirated from EMI/Seraphim recordings issued in the early 1970s.
> But surely the Rostropovich/Richter are on CD.
Yep.
wkas...@comcast.net
A. Brain wrote:
> I have a Seraphim LP set with Fournier and Schnabel
> dating from the late '40s and in a series on Seraphim
> called "Great Recordings of the Century". These
> have apparently never made it to CD.
All five sonatas are included on EMI's LES INTROUVABLES DE PIERRE
FOURNIER.
Bill
Simon Roberts
wkas...@comcast.net says...
And in this instance, EMI's transfer sounds superior (to me, anyway) to Pearl's
disc containing half of them. (I also expect it sounds better than the transfer
on Strings, or whatever it's called, but not having heard it I can't say for
sure.)
Simon
Philip Peters
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not sure if they are all on CD. .
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Josep Vilanova
favour of Schiff-Perenyi, I've just ordered the set.
Josep
On 7/2/05 8:40 pm, in article 20050207154015...@mb-m24.aol.com,
Simon Roberts
>
>I very much like the Piatagorsky with Solomon - he recorded all of them, though
>not sure if they are all on CD. .
They are - Testament.
Simon
Tom Deacon
<sd...@comcast.net> wrote:
My HMV LP set - plum cloth, very de luxe - has the variations with Lukas
Foss. I wonder if those got transferred to Testament?
TD