Ansermet "Stereo Years" on Decca

[Richard Kaplan]

This just seen on Amazon.de:

https://www.amazon.de/Various/dp/B09KN4HKC2/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_pd_crcd_2/257-7366530-6310510?pd_rd_w=SzDPx&pf_rd_p=d1f2b20b-e4c2-4ffa-a16f-05cab35d32ab&pf_rd_r=TNPHFN0GG37431SR8991&pd_rd_r=2955942d-c71a-43db-94eb-5f57bfcf5c05&pd_rd_wg=QT0ZK&pd_rd_i=B09KN4HKC2&psc=1

88 CDs, advertised as all his stereo recordings. The blurb says a subsequent box will similarly document the Mono Years. These two boxes should subsume the contents of the Eloquence "Ansermet Legacy" series.

[Richard Kaplan]

On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 12:52:04 AM UTC-6, Richard Kaplan wrote:

The box is not in original album format, meaning larger contents per CD. And hopefully the earlier Beethoven 1 and 8, not issued in stereo in the U.K., and Stravinsky's Apollo and Reynaud, also stereo on America but in mono only across the pond, will appear in this box. To get the Stravinsky to appear in stereo on Eloquence I had to use my own London stereo LP, which I sent to Universal Australia for use in mastering the recording. Decca over the years took an inexcusable approach to its archives, destroying the stereo tapes of several Ansermet recordings of the 1955-57 era: Stravinsky's Oedipus Rex and Mozart's Gran Partita being two egregious examples.

The mono set should be only half the size of the stereo. Dare we hope Decca will reach out and include the Columbia, Odeon, and EMI recordings, the way Warner included the DG, Decca, and Telefunken originals in its Furtwangler box?

[Randy Lane]

JPC recently updated the release date to December 31, 2022

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-sebastian-bach-ernest-ansermet-the-stereo-years/hnum/10767645

[mswd...@gmail.com]

Richard (or anyone else)-
Are these the only stereo omissions from the prior three boxes?

[Bob Harper]

On 2/27/22 1:21 PM, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> Richard (or anyone else)-
> Are these the only stereo omissions from the prior three boxes?

I hope I am not the only person to express a bit of sad nostalgia for
the late Ansermetniac, who would no doubt be in raptures of delight at
this release.

Bob Harper

[number_six]

But he would tout the superiority of his own "remasterings"...

Nonetheless, i miss him too.

[Néstor Castiglione]

I was about to type the same thing. I hope he finally "freed the audio" wherever he may be.

[Bob Harper]

I had forgot about his fiddling with the sound. You are surely correct,
and I'm sure we all hope he is happy after the suffering he went through
after he disappeared from this group.

Bob Harper

[Richard Kaplan]

Bob Harper:
On cursory glance, the only stereo omissions from the three earlier boxes appear to me to be the 1956 Beethoven 1 and 8, which weren't issued in stereo in the U.K. and were replaced by the 1963 versions. On the other hand, there are several mono recordings in the earlier boxes that, naturally, do not appear here; one trusts they will show up in the second set.

[drh8h]

I notice JPC has pushed the release date to the end of the year. And whatever happened to the many times delayed Jessye Norman box? This may be headed to the same fate.

[krl...@bellsouth.net]

The three Eloquence boxes omitted much more than the Beethoven mono symphonies. Missing are the complete stereo Daphnis and Chloe, the Three Cornered Hat with Teresa Beganza and the Ravel/Berlioz program with Regine Crespin. I know, I own all three boxes.

[Mike Emerson]

On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 1:42:31 AM UTC-4, krl...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> The three Eloquence boxes omitted much more than the Beethoven mono symphonies. Missing are the complete stereo Daphnis and Chloe, the Three Cornered Hat with Teresa Beganza and the Ravel/Berlioz program with Regine Crespin. I know, I own all three boxes.

Check tracks 1-12 of CD 10 in the Eloquence French Music set.

[David Altschuler]

It IS original cover art, and most sites say it will be issued on APRIL 29, 2022, not December. FYI

[David Altschuler]

Oh, well... not issued April 29 as promised on amazon.de.

[John Fowler]

Ansermet Stereo Box is listed on JPC.de
They usually have the best price, but delivery date is in the distant future:
"Item has not been released yet, probable delivery date is 31.12.2022.You can order the title now. It will be dispatched to you as soon as it is available.
EUR 199.99"
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-sebastian-bach-ernest-ansermet-the-stereo-years/hnum/10767645

[Richard Kaplan]

I see that the box is selling on U.S. Amazon for $327.99, which is pretty pricey; listed for EUR 199.99 on the French and German sites, but unavailable. Has anyone seen it cheaper than $327.99? Should we expect Amazon's price to come down?

[Glen Boisseau Becker]

Right now, grooves.land (www.grooves-inc.com) is advertising the box for $236.75 with free shipping. We can live in hope that this is not a mistake--for instance, with a dollar sign appearing where pounds are intended.

[Glen Boisseau Becker]

Of course, I hesitate to order anything like this before seeing John Fowler's appraisal. Case in point: The new box presumably includes Ansermet's rehearsal disc of Symphonie Fantastique, but I can't bet on it.

[Frank Berger]

As anyone made a list of previously unreleased recordings, or mentioned significantly successful remasterings. I have so many of these recordings already.

[Frank Berger]

Turns out I have about 50 CDs of Ansermet recordings on Decca or London. More on other labels. I don't know if any of them are in the Decca box.

[Richard Kaplan]

According to Deutsche Grammophon's website, "The releasedate [Dec. 31, 2022] is a placeholder. The real date will be announced here as soon as it is confirmed." I don't know why this is on DG's site and not Decca's, but I saw somewhere that the set is scheduled to come out in September.