Classical Music That Starts With A Bang!
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fast and with a bang? Joyous?
For instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian
Dance.
Any help would really, really be appreciated!
Sacqueboutier
Dvorak - Carnival Overture
Tchaikovsky - Symphony 4: Finale
Shostakovich - Festive Overture
Jenkins - American Overture for Band
JOTTOMH
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Don Patterson
John Bryant
Berlioz: Le Corsair Ovt.
Smetana: Bartered Bride Ovt.
Dvorak: Symphony No. 3 - finale.
Bernstein: Candide - Ovt.
OTTOMH too.
JB.
boombox
The Ravel G Major Concerto begins with a slap.
notes...@yahoo.com
Bizet - Prelude to Carmen
Richard Strauss - Don Juan
Holst - Jupiter from "The Planets"
Vaughan Williams - Overture to "The Wasps"
Johann Strauss - Thunder and Lightning Polka, Jockey Polka
Bruce
Peter J
> In article
> <a2c57dae-052b-440b-88c9-1ac00d2d0...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> tempo is not very fast.
Koday - Hary Janos!
well, not a bang, but an explosive sneeze.
Peter
Jon Teske
wrote:
Schumann Piano Concerto starts aggressively, So does the Grieg after a
couple bars of rumble.
Jon Teske, violinist
Peter J
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT), Peter J <maybi...@talk21.com>
> wrote:
>
> Schumann Piano Concerto starts aggressively, So does the Grieg after a
> couple bars of rumble.
>
> Jon Teske, violinist
I've just noticed my typo - KODALY. Many apologies.
Yes, the Grieg opening sounds like a bit of a Bergen storm to me.
Peter
Russ and/or Martha Oppenheim
Russ and/or Martha Oppenheim
Nielsen: Symphonies #3 & 4
Prokofiev Scythian Suite
Prokofiev: Symphony #2
Respighi: Feste Romane
Russ (not Martha)
Bill Anderson
John Bryant
>
> - Show quoted text -
Scriabin's 'Poem of Ecstacy' opens quietly, but it portrays a 20-
minute bang.....
bpnjensen
Glinka - Russlan & Ludmilla Overture
Several Sousa Marches
Suppe - Light Cavalry Overture
Matthew B. Tepper
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> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs
Ugh! The "song" is not the ONLY unit of musical composition, you know.
> they can think of that start fast and with a bang? Joyous? For instance:
> Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian Dance.
>
> Any help would really, really be appreciated!
How about the opening of Bizet's Symphony in C?
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> > ...can anyone recommend any and all songs
>
> Ugh! The "song" is not the ONLY unit of musical composition, you know.
>
> > they can think of that start fast and with a bang? Joyous? For instance:
> > Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian Dance.
> >
> > Any help would really, really be appreciated!
>
> How about the opening of Bizet's Symphony in C?
What? Nobody's mentioned the Eroica by Beethoven? It's one of my
favorite songs!
-Owen
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> What? Nobody's mentioned the Eroica by Beethoven? It's one of my
> favorite songs!
>
> -Owen
And you get not one but 2 bangs to start things off.
Bruce
Steve de Mena
Bernstein Candide Overture comes to mind.
There are thousands...
Steve
Matthew B. Tepper
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I'll bet you never sing it in karaoke bars!
O
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> >> > ...can anyone recommend any and all songs
> >>
> >> Ugh! The "song" is not the ONLY unit of musical composition, you know.
> >>
> >> > they can think of that start fast and with a bang? Joyous? For
> >> > instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian Dance.
> >> >
> >> > Any help would really, really be appreciated!
> >>
> >> How about the opening of Bizet's Symphony in C?
> >
> > What? Nobody's mentioned the Eroica by Beethoven? It's one of my
> > favorite songs!
>
> I'll bet you never sing it in karaoke bars!
I tried to, but I couldn't remember the words, so I sang "Freude,
schoner Gotterfunken Tochter aus Elysium" instead but the words didn't
fit and they threw me out at second, but it was a close call and the
instant replay shows I was safe.
-Owen
Mark Obert-Thorn
> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs they can think of that start
> fast and with a bang? Joyous?
Debussy - Iberia
MO-T
Simon Roberts
notes...@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>> What? =A0Nobody's mentioned the Eroica by Beethoven? =A0It's one of my
>> favorite songs!
>>
>> -Owen
>
>And you get not one but 2 bangs to start things off.
That's nothing; Haydn's 82nd song starts off with five!
Simon
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The one that comes immediately to mind is Brahms Symphony No 1 and
Dvorak Symphonic Dances (ok, that's two, but these two immediately
stand out). But as someone has already mentioned, there are actually
quite a lot.
Others:
Holst: Mars,
Brahms: Hunagrian Dances
Rimsky Korsakoff: Flight of the Bumble Bee (really fast - not sure if
bang meant quick or loud or both)
Puccini: Tosca (lots of operas start out strong)
Bizet: L'arlesienne Suites
Elgar: Cello Concerto (intense bang, as opposed to loud bang)
Khachaturian: Sabre Dance
Mahler: das Lied von der Erde
Mendelssohn: Symphony No 1 and 4
Beethoven: Symphony no 5
Mozart: Marriage of Figaro (speedy, but quickly gets to full orchestra
too)
Light Music: SO much, it is impossible to list it all here
Matthew B. Tepper
Since it was the finale, I assume the partitur was held together with string,
and the lowest voices in the chorus had been drinking? Er, wait, I mean, it
was the bottom of the 9th, the score was tied, and the basses were loaded....
Alan Briker
Alan Briker
Lawrence Chalmers
Vaughan Williams 4th
OT (with a shriek) Shostakovich 4th
De Falla Three Cornered Hat
Respighi Feste Romane
O
William Sommerwerck
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>> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs
> Ugh! The "song" is not the ONLY unit of musical composition, you know.
Matthew, people have reached the point where ANY musical composition is
called a "song" or "tune".
Pathetic.
William Sommerwerck
It does have an aggressive, almost brilliant start -- but the work is hardly
"joyous".
"I'm writing Das Lied von der Erde, and she only want to make love!"
David Cook
> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs they can think of that start
> fast and with a bang? Joyous?
> For instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian
> Dance.
There's no singing in it, but Stravinsky's Petrushka would qualify, I think.
Dave Cook
david...@aol.com
> There's no singing in it, but Stravinsky's Petrushka would qualify, I think.
As a piece that opens with a "bang"?????????????? It's not even clear
that the opening movement is joyous.
-david gable
David Cook
I guess I was going for colorful and rambunctious.
Dave Cook
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Concerto mvt. 3 doesn't start
with a bang per se, but starts fast and quick.
Thanks for all the responses so far, wasn't expecting so many! Found
so many fantastic pieces, very appreciated.
BTW, this is for a short film that I have written & directed, and am
in the process of editing.
david...@aol.com
> Debussy - Iberia
>
> MO-T
At last. Somebody who knows what a bang is.
Neither the Jupiter Symphony nor the Eroica opens with what I would
call a bang, any more than any other classical piece that opens with
analogous repeated chords opens with a bang. Repeated chords of the
kind that open the Jupiter and Eroica serve as a conventional call to
order; they serve as a framing device that formally sets the work of
art off from the rest of the world. I should think it would take more
than that -- more than a loud repeated chord -- to count as a bang.
Now Otello opens with a bang, with a loud clap of thunder. The
opening gesture of Otello is anything but a traditional framing
device, anything but a formality. With Verdi’s clap of thunder we
abruptly find ourselves in the midst of a storm at sea. The clap of
thunder is a violent rupture in the fabric of experience with which we
tumble into an already ongoing storm. (Falstaff opens with something
like a half cadence on an offbeat: rather than being formally
introduced into the world of the opera, we stumble into a world
akimbo. Rheingold opens with a low E flat that has already been
sounding on the bottom of the primeval Rhine since the beginning of
time by the time it reaches the threshold of audibility for any given
listener anywhere in the theatre. There is no framing device to set
Das Rheingold off from the rest of the universe. The real world is
the timeless world of the opera, not the prosaic world of ordinary
life, and that E flat has been sounding throughout the universe
forever.)
It is worth noting that Beethoven ultimately treats the opening chords
of the Eroica as motivic: in the Eroica, repeated chords are motives
(and comically so when they are reprised in the last movement).
Beethoven’s usage is novel in exactly the same way that Haydn’s
treatment of an ordinary accompaniment as a motive in the slow
movement of the Clock Symphony is novel. The slow movement of the
Clock symphony opens with a neutral and conventional accompanimental
figure, but Haydn makes us hear it as something more than its banal
conventionality would normally suggest, makes us hear it as a motive,
as the ticking of a clock. Beethoven’s treatment of a conventional
framing device as motivic in the Eroica is similar to Haydn’s
treatment of a conventional accompanimental figure as motivic in the
slow movement of the Clock. In other words, Beethoven’s opening
chords are anything but a special effect like the crack of thunder
with which we burst into Otello.
In the Eroica, as it turns out, the most conventional repeated chords
imaginable -- chords used for a conventional initial call to order,
chords serving as a conventional framing device -- are treated as
motivic. By the time the movement ends, it ends with chords that we
have come to hear as the exact same framing chords that opened the
movement. By the time the movement ends, these repeated chords have
been invested with motivic significance. By the end of the movement,
the comparatively perfunctory chords that would occur in any
conventional cadence at the end of a movement have been invested with
motivic significance, have come to sound like a motive entirely
specific to the movement they open and close.
-david gable
david...@aol.com
> Thanks for all the responses so far, wasn't expecting so many! Found
> so many fantastic pieces, very appreciated.
> BTW, this is for a short film that I have written & directed, and am
> in the process of editing.
If you want a bang to end all bangs, pick up the Sony recording of
Boulez's Pli selon pli. The piece opens with The Big Bang, the start
of the universe. With it we pop into the work as into a kind of
musical bubble. An hour later we pop out of the bubble with another
bang.
-david gale
Brendan R. Wehrung
> On 9 Jun, 15:05, Jon Teske <jdte...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT), Peter J <maybi...@talk21.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Schumann Piano Concerto starts aggressively, So does the Grieg after a
>> couple bars of rumble.
>>
>> Jon Teske, violinist
>
> I've just noticed my typo - KODALY. Many apologies.
>
> Yes, the Grieg opening sounds like a bit of a Bergen storm to me.
>
> Peter
Yes, it quite literally starts with a bang, although a timpani player
might dispute the term.
Brendan
Matthew B. Tepper
I can deal with such butt-ugly neologisms as "mash-up" and "blog"*, but with
regard to this particularly loathsome misuse of the language, I draw the line
and I stand firm against all arguments.
> Pathetic.
Yes, people who insist that every piece of music is a "song" are pathetic.
Gerard
> I hope I wasn't misleading when I said "bang", for e.g. Brahms Violin
> Concerto mvt. 3 doesn't start
> with a bang per se, but starts fast and quick.
>
If Mendelssohn 4 etc. are all considered to start with "A Bang", I'm not sure
what you mean by "A Bang".
A lot of Scherzi and Finales are "fast and quick". However I think some of the
given examples don't start with "A Bang".
O
<3aca433d-f0a0-4900...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
<"david...@aol.com"> wrote:
>
> At last. Somebody who knows what a bang is.
>
> Neither the Jupiter Symphony nor the Eroica opens with what I would
> call a bang, any more than any other classical piece that opens with
> analogous repeated chords opens with a bang. Repeated chords of the
> kind that open the Jupiter and Eroica serve as a conventional call to
> order; they serve as a framing device that formally sets the work of
> art off from the rest of the world. I should think it would take more
> than that -- more than a loud repeated chord -- to count as a bang.
As much as I admire the fluidity of your prose and the fervor of your
argument, I have to say that the traditional act of "calling to order"
is to "bang" the gavel.
-Owen
Norman M. Schwartz
Too bad it's a little too late for you're being able to explain these
composers to themselves.
> -david gable
John Bryant
> Too bad it's a little too late for you're being able to explain these
> composers to themselves.
Oh, I'm sure Wagner is sitting at the bottom of the "primeval Rhine"
taking note of all this. :-)
JB.
bpnjensen
Debussy, Nocturne #2 - Fetes
Khachaturian - Sabre Dance (maybe the ultimate example of this genre!)
Robert Marshall
> Scriabin's 'Poem of Ecstacy' opens quietly, but it portrays a 20-
> minute bang.....
Though Rosenkavalier appears to satisfy both requirements
(though in rather less than 20 minutes for the sexual motif)
Robert
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Nico Muhly's "It Remains to be Seen":
http://nicomuhly.com/projects/2007/it-remains-to-be-seen/
A very fine piece.
Roger
wrote:
>...can anyone recommend any and all songs they can think of that start
>fast and with a bang? Joyous?
>For instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian
>Dance.
>
>Any help would really, really be appreciated!
After some of the pieces enumerated here, I hesitate to mention
something as exoteric as Brahms' Tragic Overture.
david...@aol.com
> As much as I admire the fluidity of your prose and the fervor of your
> argument, I have to say that the traditional act of "calling to order"
> is to "bang" the gavel.
Touché! A hit, a very palpable hit.
-david gable
david...@aol.com
> On Jun 10, 9:42 am, Mr. Owen wrote:
Owen, not Mr. Owen, wrote . . .
-dg (who should have slept in this morning)
vmartell
William Sommerwerck
"The Sea Hawk" (Korngold)
"The 7th Voyage of Sinbad" (Herrmann)
Sol L. Siegel
- Sol L. Siegel, Philadelphia, PA USA
Sol L. Siegel
Chalmers) wrote:
>Vaughan Williams 4th
The 6th, too.
Sol L. Siegel
<boo...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>The Ravel G Major Concerto begins with a slap.
And the Liszt tone poem Mazeppa begins with the crack of a whip.
Neil
> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs they can think of that start
> fast and with a bang? Joyous?
> For instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian
> Dance.
>
> Any help would really, really be appreciated!
How about the crack of a whip? -- Ravel Piano Concerto in G.
...we refer to them as pieces, not songs. (-:
Neil Miller, author of The Piano Lessons Book
Enter in Amazon.com search: Neil Miller Piano Lessons Book
OR http://www.createspace.com/3332371
John_H...@msn.com
No one has mentioned Bernard Herrmann's On Dangerous Ground "The Death
Hunt" on RCA ARL1-0707 (I also have it on open reel tape); 2 minutes
and 23 seconds of wildness (+ the banging of a Volkswagen brake drum
and 8 solo horns wailing away). I know the works above and they're
all worth mentioning but this first popped to my mind. Hauser
The Historian
> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs they can think of that start
> fast and with a bang? Joyous?
> For instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian
> Dance.
>
> Any help would really, really be appreciated!
Gershwin Piano Concerto, 1st movement?
Norman M. Schwartz
Edward A. Cowan
performance from June, 1943. --E.A.C.
<theyar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs they can think of that start
> fast and with a bang? Joyous?
> For instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian
> Dance.
>
> Any help would really, really be appreciated!
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--E.A.C.
sechumlib
> ...can anyone recommend any and all songs they can think of that start
> fast and with a bang? Joyous?
> For instance: Brahms Violin Concerto Mov 3 & Tchaikovsky's Russian
> Dance.
>
> Any help would really, really be appreciated!
Various Dvorak Slavonic Dances.
Richard Schultz
The last movement of Mahler's 1st symphony. (The last movement of his 10th
also opens up with a bang, but it's a lot less joyous.)
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