List of historical Bruckner recordings (version 3 - long)
Lionel Tacchini
This is the 3rd posting of my list of historical Bruckner recordings
and I have the feeling that this one won't need too many corrections,
although it certainly still needs some additions.
I wish to thank everyone who helped me putting it up and I apologize in
advance to those who might get into financial difficulties after reading
it.
As usual, corrections and additions are welcome.
And BTW, does anyone know how to get that 1924 recording of the 7th by
Oskar Fried ?
Lionel Tacchini.
Historical Bruckner recordings :
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1924
Symphony 7 Oskar Fried, Berlin State Opera Orchestra, Polydor 1924
Symphony 8 Adagio Klemperer, Berlin State Opera Orchestra, Polydor 1924
1928
Symphony 3 scherzo Anton Konrath, Vienna Symphony 1928
Symphony 7 Horenstein, Berlin Philharmonic, Polydor, 1928
1929
Symphony 4 scherzo Clemens Krauss, Vienna Philharmonic, 2 July 1929
1933
Symphony 0 scherzo Fritz Zaun, Berlin State Opera Orch, 1933
1934
Symphony 1 & 2 scherzi Fritz Zaun, Berlin State Opera Orch, 1934
1935
Symphony 7 Ormandy, Minneapolis, US Victor, 5 and 7 January 1935
Symphony 7 Toscanini, New York Philharmonic live 1.27.35
(cut and incomplete - the acetates were made with only one cutter)
1936
Symphony 4 Boehm, Saxon Staatskapelle, Electrola, 1936
1937
Symphony 5 Boehm, Saxon Staatskapelle, Electrola, 1937
Symphony 9 mvt I & II Schuricht, Reichssender Orch Berlin, Archiphon, 1937
1938
Symphony 7 Schuricht, Berlin Philharmonic, Polydor, 1938
Symphony 5 Jochum, Hamburg Philharmonic, Telefunken, 3 & 4 June 1938
Symphony 9 Hausegger, Munich, HMV, 1938
1939
Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Hamburg Philharmonic, 22 and 24 June 1939
Symphony 7 Eugen Jochum, Vienna Philharmonic, Telefunken, 8 and 9 May 1939
Symphony 9 Schuricht, Berlin Municipal Orchestra, DG, 1939
1940
Symphony 4 Walter, NBC Symphony Orch 2.10.40
1941
Symphony 4 (incomplete) Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic 12.14-16.41
Symphony 7 mvt I - III Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic 2.2-4.41
Symphony 8 Walter, New York Philharmonic 1.26.41
1942
Symphony 5 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic, broadcast, 1942
Symphony 7 Adagio Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic, Telefunken, 1 April 1942
Symphony 7 Kabasta, Munich Philharmonic, Electrola, 1942
1943
Symphony 4 Kabasta, Munich, broadcast, 1943
Symphony 6 mvt II - IV Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic, 11.13-16.1943
Symphony 7 Boehm, Vienna Philharmonic, broadcast 6.5.43
Symphony 9 Kabasta, Munich, broadcast, 1943
1944
Symphony 2 Georg Ludwig Jochum, Bruckner Orchester Linz, broadcast, 9.5-7.1944
Symphony 4 Knappertsbusch, Berlin Philharmonic, broadcast, 9.8.1944
Symphony 5 Georg Ludwig Jochum, Bruckner Orch Linz 5.25.44
Symphony 6 Georg Ludwig Jochum, Bruckner Orchester Linz, broadcast, 26.6.1944
Symphony 8 Furtwaengler, Vienna Philharmonic, broadcast, 17 October 1944
Symphony 8 mvt II-IV Karajan, Prussian Staatskapelle, ?, 28.6.1944 & 29.9.1944
- mvt IV Karajan, Berlin Staatsoper (might be the same as the above)
Symphony 9 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic, 1944
1947
Symphony 7 van Beinum, Amsterdam Concertgebouw, Decca, 10 September 1947
Symphony 8 Koussevitzky, Boston Symphony Orchestra, broadcast
(cut down to fit into a one-hour broadcast)
1948
Symphony 8 Eugen Jochum, Hamburg State Philharmonic, DG, 1948
1949
Symphony 4 Abendroth, Leipzig Radio Sym Orch 11.49
Symphony 5 Abendroth, Leipzig Radio Sym Orch 27 May 1949
Symphony 7 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic 18 October 49
Symphony 7 Knappertsbusch, Vienna Philharmonic live 30 August 49
Symphony 8 Abendroth, Leipzig Radio Orchestra live 28 September 49
Symphony 8 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic live 14 March 49
Symphony 8 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic live 15 March 49
1950
Symphony 1 Andreae, Niederoesterreich. Tonkuenstler Orchester, Masterseal, 1950
Symphony 3 Zoltan Fekete, Salzburg Mozarteum, Concert Hall (later Remington)
Symphony 4 Paul van Kempen, Netherlands Radio, Telefunken 1950
Symphony 6 Swoboda, Vienna Symphony, Westminster, 1950
Symphony 9 Knappertsbusch, Berlin Philharmonic, 30 January 1950
Symphony 5 Eugen Jochum, BPO & Bavarian Radio Sym Orch, 1949/50
(recording made with 2 orchestras after the founding of the BRSO
to show how high a level the orchestra had reached in just a few months)
1951
Symphony 0 Henk Spruit, Netherlands Philharmonic, Concert Hall, 1951
Symphony 2 Konwitschny, Berlin Radio Symphony Orch, Eterna, 1.14.51
Symphony 4 Furtwaengler, Vienna Philharmonic live Stuttgart 10.22.51
Symphony 4 Furtwaengler, Vienna Philharmonic live Munich 10.29.51
Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Bavarian Radio Sym Orch 1951
Symphony 4 Klemperer, Vienna Symphony, Vox, 3.19-23.1951
Symphony 5 Furtwaengler, Vienna Philharmonic live 8.19.51
Symphony 7 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic 23 April 51 Cairo
Symphony 7 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic 1 May 51 Rome
Symphony 8 Knappertsbusch, Berlin Philharmonic live 7-8 January 51
Symphony 9 Abendroth, Leipzig Gewandhaus Orch 29 October 1951
Symphony 9 Schuricht, Stuttgart Radio, broadcast, 2 November 1951
1952
Symphony 3 Leopold Ludwig, Berlin Philharmonic, Allegro-Royale (live),
3.5-6.1952 issued as "Gerd Rubahn"
Symphony 4 Franz Konwitschny, Czech Philharmonic, Supraphon 1952
Symphony 7 Eugen Jochum, Berlin Philharmonic, DG, 28+30 March - 2 April 1952
Symphony 9 F. Charles Adler, Vienna Symphony, SPA, May 1952
1953
Symphony 1 Andreae, Vienna Symphony, Amadeo 1953
Symphony 2 Andreae, Vienna Symphony, Philips 1953
Symphony 3 F. Charles Adler, Vienna Symphony, SPA 1953
Symphony 4 Andreae, Vienna Symphony live 1.19.53
Symphony 4 von Otterloo, Hague Residentie, Philips, 5.6-7.1953
Symphony 7 van Beinum, Concertgebouw Orch, Decca, May 1953
Symphony 7 Schuricht, Stuttgart Radio, broadcast 3 March 1953
Symphony 9 Horenstein, Vienna Symphony, Vox 1953
Symphony 9 Walter, New York Philharmonic 7.2.1953
Symphony 9 Walter, Vienna Philharmonic, Salzburg, August 1953
1954
Symphony 3 Goehr, Netherlands Philharmonic, Concert Hall, 1954
Symphony 3 Knappertsbusch, Vienna Philharmonic, studio, Decca, 1-3 April 1954
Symphony 3 Knappertsbusch, Bavarian State Orch live 10.11.54
Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Bavarian Radio Sym Orch, DG May 1954
Symphony 4 Klemperer, Cologne Radio Sym Orch 4.5.54
Symphony 4 Matacic, Philharmonia Orchestra 12-13 October + 11, 14 December
Symphony 4 "Tubbs, Hastings Symphony," Allegro, 1954
Symphony 5 Karajan, Vienna Symphony Orch 10.2.54
Symphony 5 Gerhard Pflueger, Leipzig Phil., Urania, c. 1954
Symphony 7 Willem von Otterloo, Vienna Symphony, Philips, 10.23-26.1954
Symphony 7 Schuricht, Danish State RSO, 1954
Symphony 8 Furtwaengler, Vienna Philharmonic live 4.10.54
Symphony 9 Georg Ludwig Jochum, RIAS Orch Berlin 3.9.54
1955
Symphony 1 F. Charles Adler, Vienna Symphony, Unicorn (later Siena)
Symphony 3 Volkmar Andreae, Vienna Symphony, Philips, 1.11-13.1955
Symphony 4 Knappertsbusch, Vienna Philharmonic, Decca, studio, 29-31 March 1955
Symphony 4 Schuricht, Radio Sym Orch Stuttgart 4.5.55
Symphony 8 van Beinum, Concertgebouw Orch 6-9 June 1955
Symphony 8 Horenstein, Vienna Symphony, Vox, 1955
Symphony 8 Knappertsbusch, Bavarian State Orch 1955
Symphony 9 Eugen Jochum, Bavarian Radio Sym Orch, DG, 1955/56
1956
Symphony 1 Georg Ludwig Jochum, RIAS Orch Berlin 2.4.56
Symphony 4 William Steinberg, Pittsburgh Symphony, Capitol, 4.19.1956
Symphony 5 Knappertsbusch, Vienna Philharmonic studio, 3-6 June 56
Symphony 7 Abendroth, Berlin Radio Sym Orch live 2/16-17/56
Symphony 7 Klemperer, Bavarian Radio Sym Orch live 4.12.56
Symphony 9 van Beinum, Concertgebouw Orch 17-19 September 1956
Symphony 9 Keilberth, Hamburg State Phil, Telefunken 10.31-11.3.1956
1957
Symphony 7 Rosbaud, SW German RSO Baden-Baden 27 & 30 December 1957
Symphony 8 Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic, EMI, 23-25 May 1957
Symphony 8 Klemperer, Cologne Radio Sym Orch live 6.7.57
1958
Symphony 5 Eugen Jochum, Bavarian Radio Sym Orch, DG, 8-15 February 1958
Symphony 7 Klemperer, Berlin Philharmonic 9.3.58
Symphony 7 Konwitschny, Leipzig Gewandhaus Orch 20-22 June 58
Symphony 9 Knappertsbusch, Bavarian State Orch live Munich 2.58
1959
Symphony 5 Knappertsbusch, Munich Philharmonic 3.19.59
Symphony 5 Schuricht, Hessischen RSO, February 27, 1959
Symphony 8 Mravinsky, Leningrad Philharmonic 1959
Symphony 9 Walter, Columbia Sym Orch, 16 & 18 November 1959
Undetermined
Symphony 5 scherzo, Dol Dauber Orch, Electrola (before 1936)
Symphony 7 Steinberg, Pittsburg Symphony, date ?
Deryk Barker
Lionel Tacchini (l...@anacad.de) wrote:
: This is the 3rd posting of my list of historical Bruckner recordings
: and I have the feeling that this one won't need too many corrections,
: although it certainly still needs some additions.
: I wish to thank everyone who helped me putting it up and I apologize in
: advance to those who might get into financial difficulties after reading
: it.
: As usual, corrections and additions are welcome.
: And BTW, does anyone know how to get that 1924 recording of the 7th by
: Oskar Fried ?
I know somebody who has access to a copy. I'll let you have his
address after he's made me a tape...:-)
[...]
: 1939
: Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Hamburg Philharmonic, 22 and 24 June 1939
: Symphony 7 Eugen Jochum, Vienna Philharmonic, Telefunken, 8 and 9 May 1939
Lionel, I may have missed this earlier, but I'm curiouis as to how you
established the dates for these, given the toal absence of factual
information in the Dante/Lys set and theeir claim that the records had
been destroyed and that even Jochum couldn't remember when the
recrodings were made.
: Symphony 9 Schuricht, Berlin Municipal Orchestra, DG, 1939
Hmmm, love a copy of this.
[...]
: 1942
: Symphony 5 Furtwaengler, Berlin Philharmonic, broadcast, 1942
25-28 October, according to John Hunt's discography.
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B. Korstvedt
[...]
: 1939
: Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Hamburg Philharmonic, 22 and 24 June 1939
: Symphony 7 Eugen Jochum, Vienna Philharmonic, Telefunken, 8 and 9 May
1939
>Lionel, I may have missed this earlier, but I'm curiouis as to how you
>established the dates for these, given the toal absence of factual
>information in the Dante/Lys set and theeir claim that the records had
>been destroyed and that even Jochum couldn't remember when the
>recrodings were made.
In his review Richard Osborne gave the dates listed above,
Gramophone July 1993, p. 96.
The notes in the DanTe Lys CD were wildly entertained and quite
fictional, methinks.
Cheers, Ben
Dave Griegel
> Lionel Tacchini.
> Historical Bruckner recordings :
> --------------------------------
Lionel, thanks for all of your efforts. There are a few posts you must
have missed, and these result in some slight modifications to your list:
1) You can delete the entry for Karajan's 1944 Eighth with the Berlin
Staatsoper (Finale only). Bruce Morrison tells us that this is the same
as the performance with the Prussian Staatskapelle according to John
Hunt's discography.
2) You can also delete the entry for the Steinberg Seventh, which was
recorded in 1968 according to Mark Kluge.
3) Add an entry for the van Beinem/Concertgebouw Fifth, recorded live on
9, 11, or 12 March 1959. Bruce Morrison remembered this recording, and
Mark Kluge provided the date.
Now for some questions of my own:
1) The first two entries for van Beinum are both recordings of the Seventh
with the Concertgebouw Orchestra for Decca. They are dated 10 September
1947 and May 1953. Are the dates correct? Are these really distinct
recordings? It seems strange that Decca would make two recordings of
the Seventh by the same conductor and orchestra in such a short time span.
2) Regarding Andreae's recordings of Symphonies 1-3 with the Vienna
Symphony Orchestra: Bruce Morrison (and Robert Cowan on page 33 of the
June 1996 Gramophone) said these were originally released on the Amadeo
label. Are the Philips releases mentioned above reissues of the Amadeo
recordings, or are they different recordings?
3) Also, in addition to the 1953 Andreae/Vienna Symphony Orchestra
recording of the First, there is a listing for a 1950 Andreae/
Niederoesterreich Tonkuenstler Orchester recording of the First. When
Mark Kluge first mentioned the latter in a post a few weeks back, he had
a date of *circa* 1950 (which could include 1953). Also, I believe the
Niederoesterreich Tonkuenstler Orchester was somehow absorbed by the
Vienna Symphony Orchestra somewhere around that time. So my question is:
Are these two recordings truly distinct, or are they different releases of
the same performance?
Dave
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In article <5ni0v9$7q$1...@ccins.camosun.bc.ca>,
dba...@ccins.camosun.bc.ca (Deryk Barker) wrote:
>
> Lionel Tacchini (l...@anacad.de) wrote:
> : 1939
> : Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Hamburg Philharmonic, 22 and 24 June 1939
> : Symphony 7 Eugen Jochum, Vienna Philharmonic, Telefunken, 8 and 9 May 1939
>
> established the dates for these, given the toal absence of factual
> information in the Dante/Lys set and theeir claim that the records had
> been destroyed and that even Jochum couldn't remember when the
> recrodings were made.
I got the information from Mike Gray who sent me many other corrections.
Mike, did you get this from the same Gramophone article mentioned by
Mr. Korvstedt ?
Lionel Tacchini.
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Dave Griegel wrote:
>Lionel, thanks for all of your efforts. There are a few posts you must
>have missed, and these result in some slight modifications to your list:
>1) You can delete the entry for Karajan's 1944 Eighth with the Berlin
>Staatsoper (Finale only). Bruce Morrison tells us that this is the same
>as the performance with the Prussian Staatskapelle according to John
>Hunt's discography.
>2) You can also delete the entry for the Steinberg Seventh, which was
>recorded in 1968 according to Mark Kluge.
>3) Add an entry for the van Beinem/Concertgebouw Fifth, recorded live on
>9, 11, or 12 March 1959. Bruce Morrison remembered this recording, and
>Mark Kluge provided the date.
>Now for some questions of my own:
>1) The first two entries for van Beinum are both recordings of the
Seventh
>with the Concertgebouw Orchestra for Decca. They are dated 10 September
>1947 and May 1953. Are the dates correct? Are these really distinct
>recordings? It seems strange that Decca would make two recordings of
>the Seventh by the same conductor and orchestra in such a short time
span.
They did make two, the first on 78s, and the later one on tape. This was
not uncommon at the time - Ansermet Petrushka, Barbirolli Intro & Allegro,
etc., etc. AFAIK, the 78 recording has never been reissued.
>2) Regarding Andreae's recordings of Symphonies 1-3 with the Vienna
>Symphony Orchestra: Bruce Morrison (and Robert Cowan on page 33 of the
>June 1996 Gramophone) said these were originally released on the Amadeo
>label. Are the Philips releases mentioned above reissues of the Amadeo
>recordings, or are they different recordings?
They are the same recordings.
>3) Also, in addition to the 1953 Andreae/Vienna Symphony Orchestra
>recording of the First, there is a listing for a 1950 Andreae/
>Niederoesterreich Tonkuenstler Orchester recording of the First. When
>Mark Kluge first mentioned the latter in a post a few weeks back, he had
>a date of *circa* 1950 (which could include 1953). Also, I believe the
>Niederoesterreich Tonkuenstler Orchester was somehow absorbed by the
>Vienna Symphony Orchestra somewhere around that time. So my question is:
>Are these two recordings truly distinct, or are they different releases
of
>the same performance?
>Dave
Dave, these are indeed different. The Tonkuenstler recording used the
first published edition (Vienna version), while the VSO recording used the
Linz version of the score. You may be thinking of the original
Tonkuenstler Orchestra, which merged with the VSO after WWI. The later
Tonkuenstler Orchestra originally formed in the 1930s as the "NS
Betriebsorganisation Orchestra," and later became the NS Tonkuenstler
Orchester. After the war, the orchestra shed its unfortunate political
association and made numerous recordings for Remington/Masterseal "c.
1950." (Sorry, I simply don't have a more exact date. The Masterseal
Bruckner First was first reviewed in February 1952. The Fritz Busch
recordings with the Tonkuenstler on Masterseal are known to be recorded in
1950.)
Mark K.
Dave Griegel
Lionel Tacchini (l...@anacad.de) wrote:
> 1951
> Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Bavarian Radio Sym Orch 1951
> 1954
> Symphony 4 Eugen Jochum, Bavarian Radio Sym Orch, DG May 1954
I'm fairly certain that Eugen Jochum only made one recording of the Fourth
in the 1950s, and the May 1954 date is the correct one. (Can someone
please verify?) Speaking of Jochums, Georg Ludwig Jochum's recording of
the Third (part of the Tahra set) hasn't yet made it onto the list.